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Ladell Betts
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:06 pm
by hkHog
I've seen a lot of good things about Betts lately. From thehogs front page:
Ladell Betts - had a great day. There were a few more runs today, and Betts seemed to have more carries than Clinton Portis. Betts hit the whole hard on every run and Earnest Byner seemed very happy with the work he put in this afternoon. He also made a very 'tough' catch underneath on a pass from Ramsey that left Betts a little exposed.
Ladell Betts is having his best training camp as he enters his fourth year in the league. That’s not really much of a bold statement as he has spent a good chunk of the time in his three previous camps injured. He’s developing into a solid North-South runner who hits the holes with authority.
http://redskins.scout.com/2/421968.html
I like to hear that. Last year he was up and down. At the begining of the year he missed some crucial blocks but he played much better as the year went on. He offers a nice change of pace from Portis and hopefully he can contribute and help Portis to stay healthy.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:09 pm
by skinsfano28
betts is quite underrated. he always plays hard and has had the misfortune of being injured--i truly honestly wholeheartedly believe that had he not been hurt, he would have been the #1 candidate to eventually replace stephen davis after the trung canidate fiasco. just my 2 cents
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:15 pm
by kkryan
Imagine the trade value Betts and Ramsey will draw if they have breakout years.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 3:54 pm
by welch
At the begining of the year he missed some crucial blocks but he played much better as the year went on
An example of the Gibbs coaching method. I remember when Betts missed the block that turned the Ravens game upside down. I thought

bench him, cut him, all sorts of evil things.
Gibbs said nothing critical about Betts. Not a thing. I'm too lazy to look it up, but I think he said something like, "Ladell will make some plays for us."
And he did.
(This for members who don't remember the first Gibbs era, and who might wonder if the sports entertainment media is right when they say that Gibbs is "too soft" for today's players.)
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 4:01 pm
by Smithian
Hey, kk, haven't seen you in a while.
Been having a question; you an NT fan?
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:10 pm
by kkryan
Smithian wrote:Hey, kk, haven't seen you in a while.
Been having a question; you an NT fan?
Not really, I dont watch much college anymore since the Huskers went pass happy...I love the power running game!!!
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 5:14 pm
by MarcusBeNimble
im extremely happy to still have betts on the squad. who knows, perhaps portis and betts can be a new "thunder and lightening" duo in the backfield similar to the Giants Tiki Barber/Ron Dayne combo a few years back. that would be tooooooo TIGHT!

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 6:25 pm
by air_hog
welch wrote: I remember when Betts missed the block that turned the Ravens game upside down.
I remember that play, when Ed Reed just flew right by him and sacked Boonell, striped, and took it to the house.
That's why Ed Reed is so good, he wants it more.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 7:43 pm
by Skinsfan55
Portis wouldn't even have been traded for if Betts had been able to stay healthy.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 8:29 pm
by ejay183
Portis the speed, Betts the power, I just cant wait to wear down defenses.
Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2005 9:04 pm
by Redskins4Life
Skinsfan55 wrote:Portis wouldn't even have been traded for if Betts had been able to stay healthy.
Yes he would have
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 4:14 am
by Chris Luva Luva
Redskins4Life wrote:Skinsfan55 wrote:Portis wouldn't even have been traded for if Betts had been able to stay healthy.
Yes he would have
I concur. I think Betts really lifted some eyebrows with his performance last year, especially since he was injury plagued the season prior.
Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:17 pm
by tcwest10
Don't forget...Stephen was simmering for a while as a backup before he really came into his own. Ladell can be The Man if he gets the blocking.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:23 pm
by 19and97fan
I agree with tc... Betts is good, and as a back-up, he's solid.. But as the #1 back.. he would be only average because of his lack of blocking skills..
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 2:33 pm
by Skinsfan55
Redskins4Life wrote:Skinsfan55 wrote:Portis wouldn't even have been traded for if Betts had been able to stay healthy.
Yes he would have
Nope, don't forget we got quite a few offers for Champ... some I actually prefered to CP...
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:00 pm
by hkHog
I love Betts (I mean obviously because I started this thread) and I would love to see more of him but he is no Portis. Portis is an amazing player, he was our only offense last year. He is without a doubt the best player on our team. Betts can play but he is not even in the same league as Portis.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 4:04 pm
by mattyk72
I don't think Gibbs really knew what he had in Betts until late in the season last year.
I think Betts is a great change of pace to Portis and he should see alot more work this year.
I never understood why we never gave him a shot in goal line situations last year either.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:00 pm
by tcwest10
hkHog wrote:I love Betts (I mean obviously because I started this thread) and I would love to see more of him but he is no Portis. Portis is an amazing player, he was our only offense last year. He is without a doubt the best player on our team. Betts can play but he is not even in the same league as Portis.
It's true...but he's not to be compared with Portis. On the face of it, you can say this RB is better than that RB. There are situations where a guy like Betts is better to have in there than, say, a guy like Portis (body-wise). Apples and oranges...

ey and Rasby....pick your analogy.
Give me Betts on a 3rd and 1 on the goal line, right behind Jansen. Give me Portis on a 3rd and 12 (and we seem to find ourselves in those types of sitches fairly often) on the 30.
One guy I need for distance...the other guy, I only need for about three feet.
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 5:11 pm
by BossHog
Man I gotta tell ya after watching Broughton this past two weeks, I'd give it to Nemo with 3 feet to go.
So how about we go Betts on 3rd and 2 or 3, CP on 3rd and 4+, and nemo on 3rd and under 1.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:07 pm
by gay4pacman
Nemo! hes the thunder
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2005 11:09 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
Nemo is someone I hope gets into the game fairly often. If he can pick up the hback position, that will free up

ey to expand his roles into other areas too.
Nemo up the gut will be a great change of pace!
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:39 pm
by hkHog
There's Plenty In Reserve
Redskins Will Turn to Betts to Spell Portis
By Jason La Canfora
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, August 21, 2005; E01
At the end of last season, in the afterglow of Ladell Betts's breakout performance, Coach Joe Gibbs let the running back in on a little secret. During Betts's exit interview last January, a few days after racking up 118 yards and a touchdown in the final game of the 2004 season, Gibbs revealed that when he returned to coach the Redskins he had pegged Betts, a second-round draft pick in 2002, as a third-down back -- and nothing more.
Gibbs then gleefully informed Betts that his assessment was utterly incorrect.
As this preseason has progressed, the issue is not whether Betts deserves to be on the field, but rather how to ensure the team best maximizes his talents. Betts was a pleasant revelation on what was a horrendous offense last season, and while two-time Pro Bowler Clinton Portis will surely remain the featured back, it is also fair to expect Betts to carry the ball significantly more than the 90 times he did last season.
"I took it as a compliment for coach to sit me down and tell me that," Betts said, "especially from a coach who has been around a lot of ballplayers and seen a lot of successful ballplayers and had a lot of winning teams. For a coach to say something like that means a lot."
Betts, selected 56th overall in the 2002 draft, received his lone start of the season in Week 17 against Minnesota because Portis was injured. His performance only punctuated what was a strong season. Betts, who turns 26 on Saturday, ran 26 times for 118 yards -- both career highs -- scored once and broke a 27-yard run, the team's longest since Portis took the season-opening carry 64 yards for a touchdown. Betts was adept at executing some of the power running plays Portis never quite took to -- counter trey and 40-Gap -- and melded his compact frame (5 feet 10, 222 pounds) with good acceleration.
It capped off a season in which Betts handled his reserve status with aplomb, contributed on special teams and averaged 4.1 yards per carry (the Redskins averaged only 3.7 yards). With Portis injured for Friday's preseason game against Cincinnati, Betts stepped up with 30 yards on six carries and was impressive again.
"I'll say this, he slammed that thing against Minnesota about as hard as I've seen anybody run," Gibbs said. "I told Ladell after the season that it was more than that [game]. I said: 'Look at the whole year, what you did. You didn't say squat, you played special teams, you ran back kicks, you showed when you got an opportunity you rushed for over [100] yards.' Ladell, I sure like him as a football player. I think there's a lot of stuff to him."
Because Portis has never rushed for fewer than 1,300 yards in a season and is in the second year of a massive contract, he is a linchpin in this organization. But at just 5-11 and 205 pounds, he readily admits he is not built to be a bruising back.
To require Portis to carry the ball 343 times again -- 53 more than his top single-season total with Denver -- might be to his and the team's detriment, and it was not surprising that 63 of Betts's 90 rushes last season came in the final six games, with the relentless pounding of the long season draining on Portis.
"One thing with Clinton I made a big point of is, never, ever do we want you in there tired and winded," Gibbs said, "and I think that's important for your starting back, whoever it would be. You need to realize, hey, if you're huffing and puffing and you're tired or you're nicked a little bit, somebody else can do a better job, and that's when you normally get into trouble and turn balls over or whatever. So I told Clinton, you know, whether he carries it 30 times or carries it 20, the big thing is for him to be healthy and roaring, and if not we'll put Ladell in there And I think [Portis] feels like Ladell is pretty good, too. I think he's got a pretty good opinion of Ladell."
In many ways, Betts is the antithesis of Portis, from his running style to his reserved nature. Portis oozes charm and showmanship, and his candor sometimes results in controversial statements. Betts does all of his talking on the field. "I can't get him to talk," Gibbs said. "He's all business. He gets after it and works."
Over time, however, Betts would like to attain a similar stature within the game. He believes he has the talent to be a starting back, and, after watching former understudies such as Priest Holmes and LaMont Jordan become well-paid starters after switching teams, he knows that performance begets opportunity, whether it be here or someplace else.
"I just keep preparing myself like I'm the number one guy," Betts said, "because being number two, you're only one play away. If Clinton were to ever go down -- which I hope he doesn't for his sake -- it would be my own fault if I didn't prepare myself to be ready. So I look at myself as the number one guy, and I have to be ready if that situation does come.
"You definitely see what goes on around the league. That's why I keep preparing myself. But right now I'm a Redskin, and I enjoy being a Redskin, and hopefully I'll continue to be a Redskin for my whole career. I just keep preparing myself in case I do have to be the number one guy."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01092.html
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:14 pm
by Fo_Block
kkryan wrote:Imagine the trade value Betts and Ramsey will draw if they have breakout years.
betts = 5th rd pick
ramsey = 6th rd pick
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:14 pm
by zr0hero
Betts is a great guy. It's good to see players with that kind of work ethic.
