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Gibbs - A word of caution

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:12 pm
by Justice Hog
I, too, am getting caught up in the excitement of Joe Gibbs coming back to coach the Redskins.

Be careful, oh you Redskins faithful, about putting too much pressure on this guy...or having too high expectations right out of the gate.

Remember, when Gibbs first arrived in 1981, he started out 0-5 before winning 8 of the last 11 games to finish 8-8 in his first year.

Yes, in year #2, he kicked some Miami buttocks in the Super Bowl.

My point: Gibbs has the players to work with...but it may take the players a little time to play "JOE GIBBS" football.

So, with that in mind....

How do you think the Skins will do next year?

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 7:17 pm
by hailskins666
i had to vote SB. might not happen, but now it seems, the sky is the limit........

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:29 pm
by DEHog
Did you see Mark Slereth and Mark May on ESPN news they said 10-6 9-7

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:34 pm
by doeslammer
I see the playoffs but going to the superbowl is a little hard to believe, I love the guy but no coach ever came to a team in there first year back and made it to the superbowl, if anyone can it would be Gibbs, but like it was stated before lets not put to much pressure on the man, if we made it to the playoffs, I would be very, very excited.
Marc

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 10:39 pm
by hogline
I think it's possible this team will come together quickly. It seems to me they've known of their need for discipline. Especially during the latter part of this season.

Also, I just plain think they will WANT to go the extra mile for Gibbs. He seems to be that type motivator.

Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2004 11:01 pm
by HitDoctor
I voted a little better but won't make the playoffs only because their has to be personnell changes and adjustments. Anything can happen.

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:18 am
by redskins56
While it is so touch to keep yourself on the ground, while on cloud nine, here is the picks I have heard so far...

Chris Mortenson- Playoff contention w/ 10 wins
Mark Sclereth- Playoff team with 10 wins
Trey Wingo- Playoff team with 10 wins
Dan Patrick- Heavy contention with 9 or 10 wins...

When you got experts telling you your good, you are going to get confident... Look at the Boys, all offseason people were saying Parcells would work magic, they were going to win 9 games, they are going to be good... They bought into it...

The same thing could happen with the Skins...

-Geepz

Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2004 1:26 am
by skinsfaninroanoke
I don't wanna come back down from the cloud I am bouncing on right now. 10 - 6 with a miss on the playoffs would be a huge turnaround and respectable as all get out.

It would make it sweeter to get to the playoffs, and I think that he can do it if anyone can.

Guaranteed - no. But realistically can he? Absolutely. He is surrounding himself with the coaching staff, is disciplined, detailed, dedicated and I bet that 62 year old man will put in more hours, starting tomorrow, than most of the 20 something kids on the field. I bet the interviews after Joe meets with the players will be something to hear.

Any whiners - step over here and get offa the bus now.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:05 am
by DESkins
I think that the nucleus of a good team is there, and if anyone can make a TEAM out of the stuff that Spurnya left, it's Joe Gibbs. Now, if Spurnya had kept Stephen Davis, I think SB definitely a possibility in the first year (oh, be still my beating heart!) but realistically, I think Gibbs the motivator can coach these guys into winning those close games that they've seemed to drop in the 4th quarter for the last 11 years, so playoffs are certainly within reason. Of course, I'd be happy to settle for something a little better than just making the playoffs...

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:10 am
by Warmother
I voted playoffs but if they get on a roll late in the year...SB yeah baby.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 11:49 am
by tnathan
anything like 9-7 would feel pretty good to me. beating the eagles, beating the cowboys. that would take care of my year 1 hopes. the team has potential to be good, but keep in mind, it's a short season with little room for error. it may take him a while to get going, and the skins could stumble out of the gate. i'd say it'll start bad, finish reasonably strong, and hit the playoffs in year two. next year, 8-8 or 9-7.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:21 pm
by huyster
Hi,

First time poster, long time fan.

I'd like to think playoffs, but the schedule is pretty grueling. Gibbs will do well to split in the NFC East: sweeping the series against any one of the Iggles, Boys, or Gmen is a lot to ask.

Even at home, GB, Minnesota, Baltimore, and Tampa will be tough assignments. 10-6 or 11-5 may win the division and there may not be a wildcard from the NFC East.

I'm looking forward to next fall and hope for the best!

-Huy

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 12:41 pm
by Robert K.
huyster wrote:Hi,

First time poster, long time fan.

I'd like to think playoffs, but the schedule is pretty grueling. Gibbs will do well to split in the NFC East: sweeping the series against any one of the Iggles, Boys, or Gmen is a lot to ask.

Even at home, GB, Minnesota, Baltimore, and Tampa will be tough assignments. 10-6 or 11-5 may win the division and there may not be a wildcard from the NFC East.

I'm looking forward to next fall and hope for the best!

-Huy

Welcome to the board! :D

Yes, the schedule is going to be tough any way you slice it. But it is kind of nice to have the majority of the tough non-conference games at home :D

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:22 pm
by tnathan
i'm just trying to keep my hopes grounded. i've been taught a lesson by the skins over the last four years. speaking of the schedule, should i assume it's not yet established when the games will be, just which will be home and away?
a large part of me is hoping for a skins-cowboys week 1... even though if ever we're going to be shakey next year, it'll be in the first week or so. still, parcells vs. gibbs? come on.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:25 pm
by skinsfaninroanoke
right - they don't release the schedule until either right before or after the draft I think

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 5:31 pm
by redskincity
I saw the schedule on the internet. I think we play Dallas all 16 games. :up:

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 7:11 pm
by Robert K.
redskincity wrote:I saw the schedule on the internet. I think we play Dallas all 16 games. :up:

haha... which means we definitely won't be facing them again in the playoffs... since the Cowboys will have gone 0-16 :P :P

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 8:18 pm
by redskincity
You know it!!!! :D HTTR

post season maybe but just win baby!

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:01 pm
by gibbsfan
superbowl is a stretch but the post season is not
and you are right it will be interesting to see joe put the pieces back together on this disfunctional team. direction and the right attitude (joe gibbs attitude will work in time)

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:06 pm
by CrazyLikeAFox87
I voted playoffs. I think we have the nucleus of a very good team - they just need some discipline and decent coaching.

I'll tell you something, under Gibbs, we won't committ so many penalties and we'll find ways to win rather than ways to lose.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:07 pm
by tcwest10
ummm...I think Coach Gibbs would give the both of you a very stern look, and silence you. He'd then tell you that Dallas just made a great run to the playoffs, and whipped us soundly the last two times they faced us. He'd go on and on about how sturdy a runner they have in Hambrick, and an excellent WR in Galloway who is a shoo in for the Pro Bowl every year except for some injuries. He'd tell you boys (now wearing a very sullen, pouty look on your faces) about their head coach, who has been there and done that with every team he has ever coached.
Yes, he would. Every word would be in every paper the very next day. Dallas, of course, would read it...and their heads would swell...
Then, we'd kick the living sh*t out of 'em !
Welcome back, Coach Gibbs !

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:12 pm
by hailskins666
great post tcwest, gibbs never underestimates ANY of his opposition......there is no vanderbilt at this level.....ahem, sos

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:57 pm
by tcwest10
Oh, 666...
I do try. I LOVE this team. I always have. My heart was torn out when Joe left us, and again when they cut Monk a year later. I KNOW this team, through and through. I have five kids, man. They all had little Redskins sleepers when they were in their cribs. I live in NY, and they've been (as I have) ridiculed and harrassed for their choice of team. I hope for deliverance every year. I think I may finally have it.

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:04 pm
by hailskins666
I live in NY, and they've been (as I have) ridiculed and harrassed for their choice of team. I hope for deliverance every year. I think I may finally have it.
i feel ya, i'm in NC. there are some "old school' fans here, that were fans of the gibbskins.(myself included....too young to remember the early eighties, but old enuff to pay attention and like what i was seeing around the 87 SB) but most have been converted to panther fans by our recent lack of play, and the cats playoff run.... :roll:

Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 10:14 pm
by Robert K.
hailskins666 wrote:great post tcwest, gibbs never underestimates ANY of his opposition......there is no vanderbilt at this level.....ahem, sos

Yep... that was one of Gibbs' trademarks during his first stop here... always talking up the opponent (to the point that the local media gave him a hard time about it in the papers and on the air). This time around I don't think he'll receive criticism for that..... in part because the 'Skins have been so unsuccessful for over a decade. They seriously can't afford to overlook ANYBODY.

Now I look forward to the day that people have a reason to poke fun at him for talking up an obviously overmatched opponent :D