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http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8622837 By Pete Prisco

Another interesting article with a Skins player at the center of attention, Pete Prisco of cbssportsline rates Lavar Arrington as the NFL's most overrated player. While I believe there is a little truth too this I believe he goes a little too far is saying he is the MOST OVERRATED PLAYER in the league.

"So who are the most overrated and most underrated players from among our 64, giving them those titles throughout the league?

Washington Redskins linebacker LaVar Arrington is the choice as the most-overrated player. Arrington has all the tools to be a truly dominant player. But misuse in schemes, plus a tendency to freelance too much as well as injury troubles (he played just four games last season), have stunted his development.

Arrington was considered the potential second coming of Lawrence Taylor when he came out of Penn State in 2000. Instead, he's been a big tease." - Pete Prisco

A little too harsh a believe at this stage, but he is slowly working his way there I believe. He needs to get back on the field and show he can play again this year, BIG TIME!

This thread is going to turn ugly really quick. I just want to say hello to everyone before I put my flame retardant suit on.


In response to your post I cannot really be upset with the writer. To anyone not riding on the bandwagon it would appear that Lavar is overrated. I see it in plenty of other sports forums. He has potential. Potential means jack.

Since I called shotgun on the bandwagon I must conclude that this article is biased and wrong!

Injury troubles? So does that mean that every player who suffers an injury is suddenly injury prone? I dont believe LaVar has scratched the surface on what he can do, but I wouldnt call him overrated. He finally has a stable defensive scheme, but was injured last year. I believe he will shine this year

At the risk of getting flamed myself, I will say this. I completely agree with anyone who says Lavar Arrington is overrated.

Arrington has all the tools to be a truly dominant player. But misuse in schemes, plus a tendency to freelance too much as well as injury troubles (he played just four games last season), have stunted his development.

In my opinion, this assessment is right on the money. Arrington can be (and probably will be) great but as of right now, he's been nothing but a dissapointment to the Redskins faithful that expected so much more from him when he was signed.

Last year I expected great things from him, under new coach Williams, however, he got hurt.

I'm not quite ready to throw in the towel on Lavar just yet but I will say this. This better be his "break out" year. If it is not, then I will be the first person in the "trade Lavar" line next year.

The author is almost right - Lavar has had moments of greatness (ending Aikman's career, the sack of Kurt Warner in 2002) but has not lived up to his hype as of today.
He has so much talent but it has to be channeled properly. I am not even sure they have found his best position on the field yet.
He probably would have been great last year without the injury in Williams scheme and now with Peirce gone, its his time to step up - close his mouth and PLAY BALL.

The article speaks the truth....Arrington is a huge under-achiever and I am getting tired of his stupid mouth. Before you start running your mouth or shedding your crocodile tears while saying stupid things like "I love these guys (team-mates i guess), then you need to prove it on the field which he really hasn't done.

He misses tackles and some games is non-existent plus he didn't do anything last year due to injury. He really doesn't impress me.

IMO he is quote on qoute "overrated" due to the fact that he was compared to LT coming out of college. So when he doesnt live up to task, these writers want to doom him.

Also whats real funny is when a player misses a year from the probowl, they are thrown on these types of list("Player has fallen off or overrated.") The word overrated is overrated.

Hell, people who work for Ford think that Hondas are overrated, but we know what type of vehicles they are.

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This is absurd.

LaVar PROVED himself two years ago. He was dominant, a beast, and had that "Ray-Lewis-I'm-gonna-knock-you-out" presence every time he was on the field.

You can't hold last year against him. He was injured.



I'll throw a lot of money out there to say that if he remains injury-free this year, you WILL see him in the Pro-Bowl. He will help our defense go from #3 to #1.


I don't understand what happened. Two years ago, everyone (even non-Skins fans) was in love with the guy. He gets injured, sits out a year, and everyone just gives up on him like he's old cheese?


Mark my words. No injuries = Pro-Bowl. Period.



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Gibbs' Hog wrote:
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Dont worry, you will get negative reponses unless someone who hates, has won the lottery or something. Besides there are a few who 'hate' no matter who the player, cause thats what he/they do.

Don't forget that it was Lavar, several years ago, who single handedly turned our season around with a late game interception and run back against the Panthers

skins2win wrote:Don't forget that it was Lavar, several years ago, who single handedly turned our season around with a late game interception and run back against the Panthers

He threw the football into the stands! What a game!

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:The article speaks the truth....Arrington is a huge under-achiever and I am getting tired of his stupid mouth. Before you start running your mouth or shedding your crocodile tears while saying stupid things like "I love these guys (team-mates i guess), then you need to prove it on the field which he really hasn't done.

He misses tackles and some games is non-existent plus he didn't do anything last year due to injury. He really doesn't impress me.

It is such a shame to kick a man while he is down. I suppose the fact that Michael Barrow missed the year due to injury makes him garbage, Clinton Portis missed the last two games last year so he must have no heart! Give me a break with this lavar bashing !#*$, if he has a sub par year this year then bring on all the lashing, however going into last year before he was injured, every sporting magazine and publication had him in the top 5 linebackers. Now because Pete Prisco says he is the most overrated player in football Lavar all of the sudden is non existent in games?

Here's to another year of fairweather garbage bandwagon fans. The beauty of winning is the steps you take in getting there.

Just as a last point, ill take Greg Williams opinion of Lavar over that of Pete Prisco or Skinz_Domin8.

I am also of the opinion that Lavar is over-rated. Hopefully he will get healthy and put all this talk to rest. I'm also sick of his mouth. Too bad the salary cap handcuffs a team to a player to the point that he can't be shown the door when need be. A great season would put all this behind us, but until he actually does it on the field we have to consider him overpaid and over-rated.

Lavar is overrated until he consistantly lives up to his potential. Yes, he's shown flashes of being a really good player but he needs to be consistant and more level headed. Greg Williams isn't going to take squat from Lavar so hopefully he'll put up or shut up. I love Lavar's ability - I just want to see him use it and help the team as a whole.

Wow. Nice to see some knowledgeable fans on this site rather than the usual card-collecting homer bilge.

I think that another way to "look" at this article is to consider that Lavar is overated and also the Redskins are getting no respect for the potential we all know is there.

Yes, Lavar is overated because of the expectations but I think that the Lavar we know (not what the media "think") is just aching to get back and get the respect that he desrves.

To me this is where we stand as a team too!



As a matter of interest there are some interesting names on that writer's overated list.

LaVar may be overrated but the phrase "most overrated player in the NFL" is absurd.


How could anyone say LaVar is the most overrated player in the game over a guy like Brian Urlacher. Talk about someone who has never done anything. I've never understood the public's fascination with that guy. Watch a Bears game. You won't even notice him. And he's in commercials and being lumped in with the great Bears LBs of the past. It's ridiculous.

After him you have Shockey, who no one on this board needs to be told is by far the most overrated offensive player in the league, a result of being an outspoken player in the Big Apple. (Talk about "injury prone")

Then you have guys like Warren Sapp (although he was once great), Keyshawn Johnson (outspoken and played in NY) Roy Williams (gets beat deep constantly, TO made him look ridiculous in that MNF game), Ben Roethlisberger (yes he is overrated), all players who get way more attention than LaVar. I don't think you can say a player is the most overrated in the league when he doesn't really get any media attention outside of his own local media.

Urlacher and Shockey would be my top 2 most overrated players in the league. Both of those guys are also more injury prone than LaVar, especially Shockey. LaVar is the most overrated REDSKIN, but this article is typical nonsense from Pete Prisco.

I can't believe any of you haters. My crusade to get LaVar's name out of the trash can has obviously fallen on deaf ears and blind eyes. First of all, Pete Prisco is the WORST NFL writer probably ever. Three or four years of the most absurd SuperBowl predictions has led me to believe this guy couldn't differentiate a SuperBowl team from a Pop Warner team. Last year it was going to be the Colts and Vikings. He believed the rule change would forever change the ultimate football cliche "defense wins championships". He was wrong... again. As for LaVar, I think I've argued his worth enough since I joined the site. I don't care to go back into again. I will only say this. DO ANY OF YOU THINK HE WOULD'VE MISSED THE PROBOWL LAST YEAR IF HE WASN'T INJURED? DO ANY OF YOU THINK HE WOULD BE ON THIS LIST IF HE MADE THE PROBOWL LAST YEAR? Nuff said.

SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:The article speaks the truth....Arrington is a huge under-achiever and I am getting tired of his stupid mouth. Before you start running your mouth or shedding your crocodile tears while saying stupid things like "I love these guys (team-mates i guess), then you need to prove it on the field which he really hasn't done.

He misses tackles and some games is non-existent plus he didn't do anything last year due to injury. He really doesn't impress me.

i can't believe it, an accurate assessment from a skins fan

While we're at it, let's take the leagues entire list of injured players from last year and throw them on this list. If they didn't play last year because of injuries and had made the probowl in previous years, they must be overrated. Is that right haters? Isn't that what you're saying here?

EasyMoney wrote:
DO ANY OF YOU THINK HE WOULD'VE MISSED THE PROBOWL LAST YEAR IF HE WASN'T INJURED? DO ANY OF YOU THINK HE WOULD BE ON THIS LIST IF HE MADE THE PROBOWL LAST YEAR?

that is just 1 more reason he is overrated. the hype around his name and alleged reputation get him to the pro bowl rather than his play on the field.

he has immense talent but has never performed to that level on the field. take a guy like zach thomas or dat nguyen, who have a small % of lavar's talent but always seems to make plays, don't wiff on tackles, and are rarely if ever out of position.

as a side note - i think vick is the most overrated player in the NFL, followed by Favre, and then Lavarr.

Fo_Block wrote:

EasyMoney wrote:
DO ANY OF YOU THINK HE WOULD'VE MISSED THE PROBOWL LAST YEAR IF HE WASN'T INJURED? DO ANY OF YOU THINK HE WOULD BE ON THIS LIST IF HE MADE THE PROBOWL LAST YEAR?

that is just 1 more reason he is overrated. the hype around his name and alleged reputation get him to the pro bowl rather than his play on the field.

he has immense talent but has never performed to that level on the field. take a guy like zach thomas or dat nguyen, who have a small % of lavar's talent but always seems to make plays, don't wiff on tackles, and are rarely if ever out of position.

as a side note - i think vick is the most overrated player in the NFL, followed by Favre, and then Lavarr.

Huh? Ok, Fo_Block now I'm going to challenge you to find another outside linebacker in the league with better stats in their first 5 years and 66 games. I've been through this before, this man doesn't exist in the NFL right now. So what you're saying here is that a man who has put up better numbers than ANY outside linebacker in the league: 1) doesn't deserve name recognition and 2) doesn't deserve to go to the probowl? MmmmmK

Fo_Block wrote: i can't believe it, an accurate assessment from a skins fan

He is not one of ours. He is one of yours disguised as one of ours. That's all.

pro bowl season - mark my words

LaVar is far from the most overrated player in the NFL, but that's for another argument. Does anyone remember how well he played in the preseason last year under Gregg Williams? I still dream about that pancake he layed on Vick and can't wait for it to happen again...and it will...THIS YEAR! Last year would've been his breakout year had it not been for the injury, LaVar will thrive in this system and make anyone with negative comments regret their words.