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I don't want any part of an arguement, I am just posting this because I know it was a hot topic. I personally believed her husband. I think this shows he was more right than wrong.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/06/15/sc ... index.html

Nothing surprising. Everyone knew she was severely brain-damaged. Her husband (which I don't understand how he could have still been considered a husband, since he was living with another woman and had kids) is a piece of garbage.

Anyways, even if the autopsy showed evidence of her being aware, I highly doubt they would say that to the public. That would be devastating.

Brandon777 wrote:Her husband (which I don't understand how he could have still been considered a husband, since he was living with another woman and had kids) is a piece of garbage.

I think he filed for divorce sometime during her coma, what with not being able to pull the plug and all.

Brandon777 wrote:Nothing surprising. Everyone knew she was severely brain-damaged. Her husband (which I don't understand how he could have still been considered a husband, since he was living with another woman and had kids) is a piece of garbage.

Anyways, even if the autopsy showed evidence of her being aware, I highly doubt they would say that to the public. That would be devastating.

So, if I want to know the content of any random person's character, I can just run a short biographical blurb by you and you can tell me whether they are garbage or not?

What a relief. Senator Frist can make all the life-or-death medical decisions in the counter via video tape, and you can be the ultimate judge of character.

At least we are all in good hands.

Along with showing the extent of damage to the brain, don't forget that the autopsy was also meant to try and identify if she had been abused prior to her collapse.

The parents believe that her husband had possibly abused her in the past, but the autopsy proved that that was not true.

She was only mostly dead.


C'mon now, Redeemed. Did you want him to have sex with his comatose wife? ... 'Cause I kinda did.

General Failure wrote:

She was only mostly dead.


C'mon now, Redeemed. Did you want him to have sex with his comatose wife? ... 'Cause I kinda did.

That is one of the greatest movies ever. That post was right on time GF.

General Failure wrote:

She was only mostly dead.

So there was hope, then. I knew it!! Where was there a chocolate-coated miracle pill when she needed one. (Great pic of Miracle Max, BTW )

There's an old joke that says oral sex can wake people from a coma, but most women die of suffocation when going that route.

LMAO THis thread took a turn for the worse and I'm not sure if GF or Redeeemed should be blamed. However I do think it's kind of in bad taste for a man who has kind of moved on to decide he live was over. If the situation were mine I'd not want Scott and his new chic to have any control over that plug. I'm not dogging the guy for moving on I'm just saying if you're moved on then why be involved in the process of it all anyway? Either you are married to her and making the decision or you are out screwing around and creating another family. Funny how easily illegitimate children are accepted now a days!

NikiH wrote:LMAO THis thread took a turn for the worse and I'm not sure if GF or Redeeemed should be blamed. However I do think it's kind of in bad taste for a man who has kind of moved on to decide he live was over. If the situation were mine I'd not want Scott and his new chic to have any control over that plug. I'm not dogging the guy for moving on I'm just saying if you're moved on then why be involved in the process of it all anyway? Either you are married to her and making the decision or you are out screwing around and creating another family. Funny how easily illegitimate children are accepted now a days!

She made the decision, not him.

Also, he tried and tried to carry out her wishes for years, even before "moving on."

cvillehog wrote:

NikiH wrote:LMAO THis thread took a turn for the worse and I'm not sure if GF or Redeeemed should be blamed. However I do think it's kind of in bad taste for a man who has kind of moved on to decide he live was over. If the situation were mine I'd not want Scott and his new chic to have any control over that plug. I'm not dogging the guy for moving on I'm just saying if you're moved on then why be involved in the process of it all anyway? Either you are married to her and making the decision or you are out screwing around and creating another family. Funny how easily illegitimate children are accepted now a days!

She made the decision, not him.

Also, he tried and tried to carry out her wishes for years, even before "moving on."

And how do you know this? Were you there in the privacy of their home when Terry told him this? Do you not even think of the possibility that he may be full of crap? He didn't even express her "wishes" until seven years after she collapsed. Give me a break.

Since we're all making assumptions, I'll give it a shot as well.

In his mind, she was dead. He wanted closure. The Bible thumping parents wouldn't give him that, faught him every step of the way. Eventually he had to get divorced so he could get on with his life. Instead of saying "I guess it's not my problem anymore" he continued to fight to have her wishes fulfilled.

Meanwhile the parents tried to BS the world and slung mud at this guy. Where exactly is the part where he's an evil SOB?

General Failure wrote:Since we're all making assumptions, I'll give it a shot as well.

In his mind, she was dead. He wanted closure. The Bible thumping parents wouldn't give him that, faught him every step of the way. Eventually he had to get divorced so he could get on with his life. Instead of saying "I guess it's not my problem anymore" he continued to fight to have her wishes fulfilled.

Meanwhile the parents tried to BS the world and slung mud at this guy. Where exactly is the part where he's an evil SOB?

Bible thumping parents? They are catholics, but to label them as bible thumpers is pretty weak. They loved their daughter and wanted to take care of her, instead of watching some guy she was married to for only four years, who was known to be controlling and abusive, to have all the say so in this. Was he abusive? I don't know. I wasn't there. But why would some of her close friends and co-workers say that Terri was unhappy and talked about leaving him?

No one know for sure what the truth is. But to say this man was "fighting for Terri's wishes" is the biggest pile of BS.

Brandon777 wrote:

cvillehog wrote:

NikiH wrote:LMAO THis thread took a turn for the worse and I'm not sure if GF or Redeeemed should be blamed. However I do think it's kind of in bad taste for a man who has kind of moved on to decide he live was over. If the situation were mine I'd not want Scott and his new chic to have any control over that plug. I'm not dogging the guy for moving on I'm just saying if you're moved on then why be involved in the process of it all anyway? Either you are married to her and making the decision or you are out screwing around and creating another family. Funny how easily illegitimate children are accepted now a days!

She made the decision, not him.

Also, he tried and tried to carry out her wishes for years, even before "moving on."

And how do you know this? Were you there in the privacy of their home when Terry told him this? Do you not even think of the possibility that he may be full of crap? He didn't even express her "wishes" until seven years after she collapsed. Give me a break.

Because the three people who testified in court that she had shared those wishes with them were found credible by the judge. In your zeal to defame someone you are told to dislike, don't forget that issue was so fully vetted in the court of law that it is amazing that we are even still discussing it.

cvillehog wrote:

Brandon777 wrote:

cvillehog wrote:

NikiH wrote:LMAO THis thread took a turn for the worse and I'm not sure if GF or Redeeemed should be blamed. However I do think it's kind of in bad taste for a man who has kind of moved on to decide he live was over. If the situation were mine I'd not want Scott and his new chic to have any control over that plug. I'm not dogging the guy for moving on I'm just saying if you're moved on then why be involved in the process of it all anyway? Either you are married to her and making the decision or you are out screwing around and creating another family. Funny how easily illegitimate children are accepted now a days!

She made the decision, not him.

Also, he tried and tried to carry out her wishes for years, even before "moving on."

And how do you know this? Were you there in the privacy of their home when Terry told him this? Do you not even think of the possibility that he may be full of crap? He didn't even express her "wishes" until seven years after she collapsed. Give me a break.

Because the three people who testified in court that she had shared those wishes with them were found credible by the judge. In your zeal to defame someone you are told to dislike, don't forget that issue was so fully vetted in the court of law that it is amazing that we are even still discussing it.

There is no reason to discuss this anymore. It is a done deal. Talking about it is only going to divide Redskin fans. I have my views. You have yours. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Hail to the Redskins!!!!

Brandon777 wrote:

General Failure wrote:Since we're all making assumptions, I'll give it a shot as well.

In his mind, she was dead. He wanted closure. The Bible thumping parents wouldn't give him that, faught him every step of the way. Eventually he had to get divorced so he could get on with his life. Instead of saying "I guess it's not my problem anymore" he continued to fight to have her wishes fulfilled.

Meanwhile the parents tried to BS the world and slung mud at this guy. Where exactly is the part where he's an evil SOB?

Bible thumping parents? They are catholics, but to label them as bible thumpers is pretty weak. They loved their daughter and wanted to take care of her, instead of watching some guy she was married to for only four years, who was known to be controlling and abusive, to have all the say so in this. Was he abusive? I don't know. I wasn't there. But why would some of her close friends and co-workers say that Terri was unhappy and talked about leaving him?

No one know for sure what the truth is. But to say this man was "fighting for Terri's wishes" is the biggest pile of BS.

I'm making assumptions based on no facts whatsoever. The parents are Bible thumpers, the husband is a hero, and the wife is actually a robot. Also, the nurses were all incredibly sexy lesbians ans taped all the spongebaths.

General Failure wrote:Since we're all making assumptions, I'll give it a shot as well.

In his mind, she was dead. He wanted closure. The Bible thumping parents wouldn't give him that, faught him every step of the way. Eventually he had to get divorced so he could get on with his life. Instead of saying "I guess it's not my problem anymore" he continued to fight to have her wishes fulfilled.

Meanwhile the parents tried to BS the world and slung mud at this guy. Where exactly is the part where he's an evil SOB?

GF... no one else has summed it up any better... great job.

I don't think it's so much a summation as it is another view. Reality usually settles somewhere between the pristine and the sewage.

...don't forget that issue was so fully vetted in the court of law that it is amazing that we are even still discussing it.

Yeah! Forget, too, that OJ killed his wife and Michael Jackson is a child molester, since it wasn't proven in a court of law.

I thought we were already done with this whole Shiavo debate.

Let's get back to politics and the "I hate/love W" discussions already. Geez!

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

...don't forget that issue was so fully vetted in the court of law that it is amazing that we are even still discussing it.

Yeah! Forget, too, that OJ killed his wife and Michael Jackson is a child molester, since it wasn't proven in a court of law.

OJ was found culpable in Civil court.

I don't know the specifics of this particular case against Michael Jackson, but it was apparently not sufficient.

But, those are both besides the point -- was Mr. Schiavo rich and famous? Was Mr. Schiavo on trial in criminal court?

Also, to those who continue to accuse the husband of abuse, you'll probably want to ignore the fact that the autopsy shows there was no abuse.

Also, to those who continue to accuse the husband of abuse, you'll probably want to ignore the fact that the autopsy shows there was no abuse.

The autopsy is not an end all to the discussion of abuse. Physical abuse? Perhaps, it answers the question on that. What about emotional abuse?? How does the autopsy disprove what witnesses, family members claim that Michael did to Terry? What drove Mrs. Schiavo to her eating disorder, which would eventually lead to her body/brain malfunctioning? To say there was no evidence of abuse is to try to cover the sun with one finger.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

Also, to those who continue to accuse the husband of abuse, you'll probably want to ignore the fact that the autopsy shows there was no abuse.

The autopsy is not an end all to the discussion of abuse. Physical abuse? Perhaps, it answers the question on that. What about emotional abuse?? How does the autopsy disprove what witnesses, family members claim that Michael did to Terry? What drove Mrs. Schiavo to her eating disorder, which would eventually lead to her body/brain malfunctioning? To say there was no evidence of abuse is to try to cover the sun with one finger.

You are an expert on eating disorders now? Please enlighten us, because apparently my own experiences with eating disorders is not sufficient. Also, if you recall, the court did not find those allegations to be credible.