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Holdman Embraces New Beginning
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 3:44 pm
by WshSkins22
Holdman Embraces New Beginning
By Casey Husband
Redskins.com
May 17, 2005
Back in 2001, the Chicago Bears rode their rugged defense to a 13-3 mark and the NFC Central title. You may remember that team as the one that knocked the Redskins out of the playoff hunt. They did it in a shocking way on Week 15 at FedExField, when Brian Urlacher hauled in a 27-yard TD toss from holder Brad Maynard on a fake field goal as Chicago won 29-15.
In any event, four years down the road the Redskins may have three of those former Chicago players as key figures in their defense in the season ahead.
Warrick Holdman
Cornerback Walt Harris and defensive end Phillip Daniels were starters on that Bears club of four years ago. The third, Warrick Holdman, the 6-1, 235-pound linebacker and seven-year NFL vet, was with his new team as part of the club's off-season workout activities at Redskin Park.
Holdman is one of 14 linebackers on the Redskins' off-season roster. The dominant question is this: Who can replace Antonio Pierce, now with the New York Giants, in the middle for Gregg Williams in 2005?
"It's my first day, so I'm still trying to learn snap counts," Holdman joked with reporters at Redskin Park. "Sure, I want to make a name for myself here, and prove to people that I can still play football. But for right now, I'm just trying to learn the defense."
Of course, the mastermind of those Chicago defenses, Greg Blache, is now with the Redskins as defensive coordinator and overseer of the team's defensive line. Dale Lindsey, the linebackers coach who helped in the development of Holdman, Urlacher and Rosevelt Colvin for the Bears, is now with the Redskins.
In other words, Holdman saw plenty of familiar faces in his first workouts at the team's Ashburn, Virginia facility. It was the first of 14 OTAs, or organized team activities, which are voluntary workouts not open to the public.
The Redskins last week agreed to terms on a deal with Holdman, the free agent linebacker who played in Cleveland five years with Chicago. He started 14 of 16 games last season and logged 110 tackles (56 solo). Holdman was released by the Brown on Feb. 23.
"He gives us added flexibility at linebacker," head coach Joe Gibbs said. "The thing about Warrick is that he has played all across the board. He is a veteran guy that has started at almost all of those positions. All of the defensive coaches here know him, have worked around him and with him or coached him.
"We can move people around depending on what we want to do with Lemar (Marshall). We have Brian Allen there and Mike's (Barrow) situation. We are just trying to get all of those guys healthy and work with them and see what Dale (Lindsey) thinks is the best way to go."
Holdman has played all three linebacker positions in his career and will bring strong depth to the team's linebacker corps.
"I weigh about 240 now, but I'm not in training camp shape," he said. "That's why I wanted to get with my new team, to be able to work on my conditioning and to learn my new teammates. I'll probably play at about 235. But it's not as if you have to weight 250 or 260 to play middle linebacker in this defense. In this defense, what you have to be able to do is run."
In his career, Holdman has played in 75 games with 63 starts. He has recorded 522 tackles (342 solo), four sacks, nine forced fumbles and one interception.
His best season was 2001, with a career-high 145 tackles (101 solo) and three forced fumbles. Holdman's 45 tackles were second on the team to Pro Bowler Urlacher's 148.
At Texas A&M, Holdman, a native of Alief, Texas, started 40 games, then was a fourth-round pick (106th overall) of the Bears in 1999. He says Lindsey really helped establish him as an NFL linebacker.
Brian Allen, the fifth-year NFL player and former Carolina Panther, got the bulk of the work in the middle on Tuesday, Gibbs said.
Other candidates to replace Pierce in the middle of the Redskins' defense include Mike Barrow, who is rehabbing his knee in Arizona, and Lemar Marshall, who stepped in for LaVar Arrington a year ago and had a solid year at outside linebacker.
"What Pierce was able to accomplish in this defense last year is encouraging," said Holdman. "This is a defense that allows linebackers to make plays. Right now, I'm just trying to learn my new team. But as far as the NFL overall, you just never know. In Chicago in 2001, people picked us to finish last. We went 13-3."
Holdman likely will miss workouts the rest of this week as he attends services connected with his grandmother's death, Gibbs said.
This mlb situation is confusing to me...but heres a nice article about Holdman
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 3:48 pm
by redskins12287
Yeah, it is confusing, so many LBs on the roster, should make for a nice competition for a starting job.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:44 pm
by Great Natale
Let me get this straight we have five players competing for one position. Mashall, Barrow (if he isn’t cut), Allen, Holdman, and McCune. Is that not a little excessive???
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:52 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
No, it isn't excessive. I believe thoose guys are also here because they play Special Teams AND they provide depth for our LB corps.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:59 pm
by EasyMoney
Great Natale wrote:Let me get this straight we have five players competing for one position. Mashall, Barrow (if he isn’t cut), Allen, Holdman, and McCune. Is that not a little excessive???
It's excessive but Marshall and Holdman will make the team because they can play more than one position. Competition for the starting spot will bring out the best in all of these guys. Hardly a bad thing. Two deep for each LB position isn't a bad thing either, look at what happened to the LB's last year. The more the merrier.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 5:38 pm
by air_hog
Great Natale wrote:Let me get this straight we have five players competing for one position. Mashall, Barrow (if he isn’t cut), Allen, Holdman, and McCune. Is that not a little excessive???
No, more is better. I mean, let's say someone goes down with an ACL tear in the Pre-season, we will have great backups.
Or if LaVar knee is still bothering him, we have depth. So I like having lots of LBs.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 6:50 pm
by Countertrey
Williams defenses require very active, fast and physical limebackers... the more the better.
As noted above, a number of these fellows are also going to add attitude to special teams...
Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:32 pm
by hatsOFF2gibbs
It's gonna be nice.....five LBs rumbling down the field to make awesome tackles. It's going to tbe great!
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 2:47 pm
by crazyhorse1
Great, let's get some more linebackers. No need for DE's or possession receivers (big WR's or TE's). Or depth on the DL or OL. How about a new QB?
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:29 pm
by hatsOFF2gibbs
crazyhorse1 wrote:Great, let's get some more linebackers. No need for DE's or possession receivers (big WR's or TE's). Or depth on the DL or OL. How about a new QB?
Hey, don't be such a rotten seed. Maybe we could use some of the LBs as DEs...ever think of that? It's possible! They've got the bodies, strength, and speed. Just need some coaching.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:31 pm
by WshSkins22
Crazyhorse...how about you stop thinking you are smarter than Gibbs...if we arent going after those positions than maybe they arent needs...did we have a freakin pass rushing DE last year...NO, and we still did good on D...why have possesion recievers when Gibbs offensive scheme has wrs runing after the catch( reason why he signed a guy who got 18 last year compared to our 11 or 12 I think). Our offense couldnt move the ball last year. You are just one of those guys who want big name players like we always get and end up losing...cant you get it through your head that that hasnt worked the last 12 years? I dont think you will ever understand...
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 3:46 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
:hmm: Hey, has anyone mentioned this yet? I heard this morning on the radio (Sportstalk 980) that the Skins named Holdman starting Inside LB. That was fast!!
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:21 pm
by WshSkins22
Really...already? Man then what will we do with Marshall have him back up Arrington, well thats cool I dont know much about Holdman but I hope hes as good as you guys say
Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:48 pm
by ChillWill
If Holdman has been given the position already that is an indication of a poor showing by the other candidates. This is hard to believe after 1-2 practices without pads.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 10:39 am
by crazyhorse1
ChillWill wrote:If Holdman has been given the position already that is an indication of a poor showing by the other candidates. This is hard to believe after 1-2 practices without pads.
Exactly!
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:06 am
by portis26
After reading this Q&A with Greg Blache it doesn't sound like they've named anybody...
WI: Warrick has started his whole career, but you have Marcus and LaVar on the outside.
GB: You're making an assumption. What you did last year, that goes in your clippings. When you come to camp and compete this eyar, that will be the deciding factor. What happens a lot of times is people try to hang their hat on last year, but we can't. As a defense we have to play like we were the last ranked defense in the NFL. If we don't work our butts off, that's where we'll end up. We have to work our butts off to be number one. What happened last year and in the past, when we're sitting in our rocking chairs in 15-20 years, then we can enjoy it. But right now we have to get ready for next year. For me to assume anything different is wrong and I'd be sending the wrong message. Everything will be predicated on what we accomplish in these camps and in the fall. . . . Players decide who plays. It's a great opportunity for guys to be in Washington. If I'm a defensive player I'd want to be in Washington competing for a job right now because it's so fair and wide open and competitive.
WI: How important is it for the staff to get a look at Micheal Barrow?
GB: We coach the guys who are here. If they're not here, I won't talk about you because I'm not worried about you. I'd be a fool to do anything else. The only guys I know who will be there to help us win are the guys that are there. Anyone else I don't want to discuss.
WI: Antonio made the transition from outside to inside. Does that give you hope Warrick or Lemar can do it?
GB: No question. Our whole thing is wide open. Whoever ends up being in the middle, no one knows. At this time last year, no one in the world would have ever expected AP to be a starting Mike-backer and have success. Nobody. So anything is possible. One reason we've been successful is that we have experienced coaches who go back and watch things, listen to what players are telling us and putting in the best people and letting them play and not predicating decisions based on salaries or past histories. It's what are you doing today? Dale is the one who helped take AP from being outside and never starting to moving him inside and then he got paid. Part of that success story might be the environment created by Dale. He might be the X factor, his coaching skills and savvy. When all this washes out we'll see who ends up where or does what. As long as you add athletic people, guys who have track records of being professional, then yo have a chance. We're trying to collect the best talent, put it into the hopper and let it all clean itself out in the wash.
Here's the whole story:
http://story.scout.com/a.z?s=63&p=2&c=380391
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:17 pm
by JPM36
I see the following:
Barrow cut after June 1
Holdman winning the starting job at MLB, backed up by McCune.
Marshall and Allen being the two backup OLBs and providing valuable depth and special teams play.
Newberry being near the cut line, probably making the team.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:25 pm
by portis26
JPM36 wrote:I see the following:
Barrow cut after June 1
Holdman winning the starting job at MLB, backed up by McCune.
Marshall and Allen being the two backup OLBs and providing valuable depth and special teams play.
Newberry being near the cut line, probably making the team.
I think Newberry would definitely be a nice fit for the practice squad if he doesn't make onto the regular roster. I hope Brandon Barnes doesn't make it though. He was terrible last year, especially in goalline situations. We have some serious depth at LB with all the additions this offseason and the young players we already had there with guys like Clifton Smith, Khary Campbell, Chris Clemons, and Barnes.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:37 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
portis26 wrote:After reading this Q&A with Greg Blache it doesn't sound like they've named anybody...
:oops: My bad. I was just repeating what 980 reported yesterday morning. Since then, I have not heard one peep about it. Perhaps they pulled a "Newsweek" on me. Thankfully, I like Holdman, so I wasn't about to riot. 