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GIANTS: TIM OUR NO. 2 QB

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:38 pm
by 1niksder
GIANTS: TIM OUR NO. 2 QB

By PAUL SCHWARTZ
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May 17, 2005 -- There is no experimentation going on with the Giants and their quarterback situation. The search is over. The team is entirely comfortable going into training camp — and heading into the season — with Tim Hasselbeck as the backup to Eli Manning.
Getting awarded Hasselbeck off waivers from the Redskins was no minor move in the minds of the Giants, as they coveted him, hoped he'd get cut and then sweated out the waiver process until they received word last Monday that they got their man.

"Hasselbeck was a gift," GM Ernie Accorsi yesterday told The Post. "We did not expect him to become available. We have a high regard for him. If he were a free agent he would have been at the top of our list. This is not one of these stop-gap things."

The Giants believe they have their three quarterbacks in place, with Jesse Palmer expected to beat out Jared Lorenzen for the No. 3 job, a role Palmer filled last season while not throwing a single pass.

At first, when the Giants picked up Hasselbeck, 27, it seemed as if he and Palmer, 26, would compete for the backup job. That battle likely will not emerge, as Hasselbeck is clearly in the lead for the No. 2 spot.

Accorsi went as far as to say that, other than Kerry Collins, Hasselbeck "talent-wise is as good a backup as we've had here," although Accorsi did give Kurt Warner an edge over Hasselbeck in experience.

Is there basis for the high value the Giants place on Hasselbeck? After all, he went undrafted in 2001 out of Boston College, and his five career starts all came in 2003, when he replaced an injured Patrick Ramsey.



Hasselbeck compiled a rating of 63.6 and did beat the Giants 20-7. He was deemed expendable by the Redskins this offseason after they selected Jason Campbell in the draft. When he was cut, Hasselbeck first had to pass through waivers, which goes by the order of the first round of the NFL draft.

That means 11 teams passed on Hasselbeck before the Giants — who originally owned the No. 12 pick before trading it to the Chargers — claimed and were awarded him.

Going with Hasselbeck and Palmer also negates the role of a Manning mentor, something the Giants once said was so important when they signed Jim Miller — and, after Miller went down with a torn hip labrum, when they tried to sign Doug Flutie. There will be little in the way of veteran guidance for Manning.

"The last thing we're going to worry about with Eli Manning with his family background is that he needs a mentor," Accorsi said.


http://www.nypost.com/sports/giants/44224.htm

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 9:44 pm
by statboy
thats great, i wonder what they seen in him to have that much confidence in him. and they didnt have to give up any high draft pics or big contracts to get him.

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:16 pm
by SkinsJock
And it makes you wonder how 11 teams could pass on this incredible talent! Make that 12 - the Skins let him go!

Tim's a decent QB, but give me a break, he's just a decent QB!

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:20 pm
by statboy
SkinsJock wrote:And it makes you wonder how 11 teams could pass on this incredible talent! Make that 12 - the Skins let him go!

Tim's a decent QB, but give me a break, he's just a decent QB!


but wasnt he better then brunell last year, during preseason he had better stats then brunell and ramsey

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 10:47 pm
by ejay183
statboy wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:And it makes you wonder how 11 teams could pass on this incredible talent! Make that 12 - the Skins let him go!

Tim's a decent QB, but give me a break, he's just a decent QB!


but wasnt he better then brunell last year, during preseason he had better stats then brunell and ramsey


Thanks true, the man can play, he was just stuck deep in the depth charts

Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:05 pm
by SKINZ_DOMIN8
Good for him. Not like Eli is going to do anything anyways with the Manning curse. So he should be able to start a few games next season.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:39 pm
by Gibbs' Hog
statboy wrote:but wasnt he better then brunell last year, during preseason he had better stats then brunell and ramsey


I think he can be a solid QB, but preseason stats are worthless unless we're only talking first quarter...

I liked what I saw in him during the few games he started two years ago; he's not a superstar, but if he gets more starting experience, I think we'll be hearing more about him.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:48 pm
by Gibbs' Hog
SKINZ_DOMIN8 wrote:Good for him. Not like Eli is going to do anything anyways with the Manning curse. So he should be able to start a few games next season.



Eli is cursed because he is a crybaby. Since when is it okay for a number one draft pick to "choose" which team he wants to play for?

I didn't have a problem with the guy before last year's draft, but it really peeved me off that he was complaining about not wanting to play for SD. Things worked out well for the Chargers in the end last year, but that punk ass shouldn't have gotten any playing time anywhere IMO.

Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:16 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
Who else is rootin' for Eli to fall in the depth chart?? Go Hassy!

Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 2:29 pm
by SkinsJock
Eli (& his family) were an embarrassment in how they manipulated things last year and it would be a little rewarding to see him get a little humbled initially. He may be as good as the "experts" think but I would love to see him "not work out" initially.

Good luck to Hass! He was never going to get a chance here and if Gibbs let him go then that means he could not have had much promise for the type of QB that Joe is looking for. If Joe thinks that Brunell is "okay" as the back up then so be it but Tim might suit these guys better.

At least he's not with the pukes who IMO really need help at QB - there are no "stats" that make that trio look good to anybody but an ignorant puke fan. As bad as Mark was last year he would probably be better than any of those guys!

Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 3:18 pm
by SKINZ_DOMIN8
SkinsJock wrote:Eli (& his family) were an embarrassment in how they manipulated things last year and it would be a little rewarding to see him get a little humbled initially. He may be as good as the "experts" think but I would love to see him "not work out" initially.

Good luck to Hass! He was never going to get a chance here and if Gibbs let him go then that means he could not have had much promise for the type of QB that Joe is looking for. If Joe thinks that Brunell is "okay" as the back up then so be it but Tim might suit these guys better.

At least he's not with the pukes who IMO really need help at QB - there are no "stats" that make that trio look good to anybody but an ignorant puke fan. As bad as Mark was last year he would probably be better than any of those guys!


Excellent Post.

Posted: Sun May 22, 2005 1:23 pm
by Hooligan
Hopefully our LB's don't tee off on him too badly. I like Hasselbeck.