this is why we wanted to keep our 2006 #1 pick...

tokyoskins · Post by **tokyoskins** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 11:59 pm

the talent level next yr will clearly exceed this yr. important to note though that peterson is not eligible for draft next yr...

Top Pro Prospects for 2006 (and beyond)
Pete Fiutak / CollegeFootballNews.com
Posted: 5 hours ago

So who are this year's college football players who have the NFL scouts drooling? Here are 32 to watch for this college football season. These aren't necessarily the best college football players, but they're the ones who project to be among the best pros.

1. RB Adrian Peterson, Oklahoma
The first pick in the 2007 NFL draft, Peterson is the best running back prospect since Willis McGahee (before the knee injury). He has a rare blend of size, speed, and talent.

2. QB Matt Leinart, USC
The rare rock-solid lock quarterback prospect. It should say something that Norm Chow said Leinart was one of the best kids he'd ever coached.

3. RB Reggie Bush, USC
Everyone forgets how big the 6-0, 200-pound speedster is. As a runner, receiver or kick returner, he's a sure-fire NFL star.

4. LB A.J. Hawk, Ohio State
The pro scouts have been in love with Hawk for the last two years. That was before the Buckeye star ripped off a 4.46 40-time on pro timing day.

5. DE Mathias Kiwanuka, Boston College
While players always emerge from nowhere, next season appears to be light on defensive ends compared to the 2005 draft. Kiwanuka will be a much sought after pass rusher.

6. OG D'Brickashaw Ferguson, Virginia
While Elton Brown got most of the honors over the last few years, Ferguson projects to be a better pro.

7. LB Ahmad Brooks, Virginia
Considered a top pro prospect from the moment he set foot on the Virginia campus, he'll be a near-lock to go in the top ten.

8. RB DeAngelo Williams, Memphis
Even with his leg injury (which is now fine) he was projected by some as a top 15 pick had he come out for the 2005 draft. His speed and quickness could move him up to the top five in the 2006 draft.

9. OT Eric Winston, Miami (FL)
As long as his injured knee is 100%, he'll be someone's starting tackle for ten years.

10. LB Chad Greenway, Iowa
The range and pass coverage abilities will make him a first rounder.

11. DE Mario Williams, NC State
A freakish mix of talent in a 6-7, 285-pound end. He could project as a lightning quick tackle.

12. TE Leonard Pope, Georgia
6-7, 250-pound tight ends who can average 19 yards per catch are rare.

13. CB Jimmy Williams, Virginia Tech
Safety-sized 6-3, 206-pound corners who hit like Williams does and have 4.4 speed don't come around too often.

14. LB Bobby Carpenter, Ohio State
Overshadowed by A.J. Hawk, Carpenter is almost as fast and almost as good.

15. CB Devin Hester, Miami (FL)
He still needs a ton of work as a defensive back, but he has too much upside as a defender and a kick returner not to be a top prospect.

16. OT Marcus McNeill, Auburn
He's 6-9 and 337 pounds with good feet as a pass-blocking left tackle.

17. OG Max Jean-Gilles, Georgia
The 6-4, 340-pound Dawg would've likely been a first round pick in the 2005 draft.

18. OT Doug Free, Northern Illinois
They don't call him Doug Freak for nothing. He's a frightening blend of strength and speed with the potential to grow into one of the nation's top run blockers.

19. RB Laurence Maroney, Minnesota
Minnesota backs haven't panned out at the next level, but Maroney is good enough to buck the trend.

20. DT Orien Harris, Miami
From stuffing the run to getting to the quarterback, Harris could become one of the most compete tackles in college football.

21. CB/S Jason Allen, Tennessee
His size and speed makes him an intriguing prospect at corner, but he might be more suited for safety.

22. DT Kyle Williams, LSU
While not a monster on the inside, the 6-2, 295-pounder is a good interior pass rusher and active against the run.

23. RB Wali Lundy, Virginia
Think of him as next year's Ronnie Brown. He has the size, speed, and hands to be the combine guy who makes jaws drop.

24. WR/CB/KR Ted Ginn Jr., Ohio State
The question will be where he projects to play. The NFL is full of fast guys who can do a little of everything well.

25. TE Joe Klopfenstein, Colorado
He's a fast 6-6 and 245 pounds with tremendous hands.

26. RB Lynell Hamilton, San Diego State
The only question will be his durability coming back from missing all of last year with a broken ankle. He's 220 pounds with the moves of a scatback.

27. DT Jesse Mahelona, Tennessee
He's a 300-pound tackle with the athleticism of an end.

28. DT Haloti Ngata, Oregon
Injuries are all that have been able to stop the 6-5, 345-pound anchor.

29. OT Andrew Whitworth, LSU
He's a durable 6-7, 325-pound pass blocker who doesn't get beat.

30. S Darnell Bing, USC
There are a few consistency questions, but the 6-2, 220-pound big hitter will be a first rounder come draft time next year.

31. DE Darryl Tapp, Virginia Tech
He might only be 6-1, but he's lightning fast on the edge at 268 pounds.

32. OT Daryn Colledge, Boise State
The 6-5, 298-pound graduate of North Pole High in Alaska has been a starter in one of the nation's best offenses from day one and is growing into an elite pass protector.

Ten more who belong on the list: TE Tim Day, Oregon ... CB/WR Charles Gordon, Kansas ... DE Eric Henderson, Georgia Tech ... TE Matt Herian, Nebraska ... LB Abdul Hodge, Iowa ... WR Santonio Holmes, Ohio State ... OT Winston Justice, USC ... TE Marcedes Lewis, UCLA ... OG Grayling Love, Arizona State ... DT Rodrique Wright, Texas

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:10 am

Atleast 10 of those players will be available in the 2nd round

vife · Post by **vife** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:14 am

We'll probably get a first round for something next year, whether trade or somethign else.

C'fieldSkin · Post by **C'fieldSkin** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:21 am

If there is a player Gibbs really wants we will trade into the first round. Then everyone will cry and moan because we trade picks to get there.

air_hog · Post by **air_hog** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:31 am

All those guys seem to be OL. And I believe we are set there.

And lets say Ramsey does suck this year and we know that we need a new QB to restart this franchise. Well Lienart seems to be the only for sure #1 QB, so now I think it was smart to get a QB this year, especially Campbell.

tokyoskins · Post by **tokyoskins** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:41 am

air hog,

just because we are set at OL doesnt mean other teams are. and when teams are desperate, that is when you have the best chance to fleece them and make out like a bandit. the off tackles next yr will be the best we have seen in a long time, and if we had our #1 pick, we could entertain some very good options.

OCSkins · Post by **OCSkins** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:51 am

Kiawanuka is the only prospect that interests me and we could get him in the Second Round

SkinsLaVar · Post by **SkinsLaVar** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:32 am

I'm tired of u Whiners...Dont worry about next year...

xhadow · Post by **xhadow** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:10 am

We used our #1 Draft pick this year as our #1 Draft Pick Nexr Year. How many Rookie Quarterbacks start in their first year. Think of Campbell as money in the bank, next years draft Gibbs will start to build around him. Because WR and Tight Ends usually start their Rookie seasons. Just watch and learn as the Posse is rebuilt.

thaiphoon · Post by **thaiphoon** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:15 am

We used our #1 Draft pick this year as our #1 Draft Pick Nexr Year. How many Rookie Quarterbacks start in their first year. Think of Campbell as money in the bank, next years draft Gibbs will start to build around him. Because WR and Tight Ends usually start their Rookie seasons. Just watch and learn as the Posse is rebuilt.

Actually we used 2 first rounders (one we picked with and the other we traded away)...a third rounder and a fourth rounder for a developmental QB we could've gotten with our 3rd round pick this year ... but hey ... who's counting ??

xhadow · Post by **xhadow** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:18 am

Why settle for a developmental QB in the 3rd round when the guy you want and feels fits best with your system is available in the 1st. Thats our problem we go for flash and popularity every single offseason now when we play the offseason like a methodical game of chess those of use that are so used to the temporary high of "WE GOT _____________ and this guyis going to be so good for our ____________! Only for the player to come here and put up sub par numbers ala Deion Sanders & Bruce Smith.

I say sit back and watch our coach has a plan. Just trust and belive

SkinzCanes · Post by **SkinzCanes** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:19 pm

Kiawanuka is the only prospect that interests me and we could get him in the Second Round

If he's the only player from this group that interests you then you probably don't watch enough college football. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have traded next year's first round pick, but you can't deny that that draft will be full of sick talent, especially at the lb and oline positions.

wonker · Post by **wonker** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:06 pm

I think Peterson will be only a Sophmore next year. he can't come out.

That said, next year's draft does look to be loaded. USC could have 3 players in the top ten!

HTTR

wonker

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 4:10 pm

I want Mario Williams. It may have something to do with the fact i know and played football with his older brother or the fact i'm a die hard NC State fan but he's a beast.

RobSkins1 · Post by **RobSkins1** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 7:06 pm

11. DE Mario Williams, NC State
A freakish mix of talent in a 6-7, 285-pound end. He could project as a lightning quick tackle.

This guy would be a nice pick up... Maybe we can just keep trading next years 1st like this 2006 draft trade our 2007 1st round pick for a 2006 1st round pick and so on if we do this we will always have a 1st round pick haha

frankcal20 · Post by **frankcal20** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:40 pm

I'm curious what comp. Picks we'll get next year with the loss of Smoot, Coles, and Pierce.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:12 pm

Some people are counting and some people are whining! Let's just get on with thinking about the possibilities of what we have got and what we might be able to do this season. This constant whining is not very constructive and we have surely analyzed it to the nth degree. That horse is out of the barn! Please!

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:15 pm

Who says we will not have a first round pick next year? :wink:

thaiphoon · Post by **thaiphoon** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:15 pm

I'm curious what comp. Picks we'll get next year with the loss of Smoot, Coles, and Pierce.

IF we get any, we'll only get a compensatory pick for Smoot.

Pierce was undrafted and Coles was traded for another player (so no net loss on Coles).

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:24 pm

Redskin in Canada wrote:Who says we will not have a first round pick next year?

Exactamundo RiC! Who knows what evil lurks? - you been reading my mail?

There's a lot could happen this season that will dictate what we need to do to address this but first we got to deal with the present.

Going to be an interesting pre-season around here and on the field!

1niksder · Post by **1niksder** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:48 pm

thaiphoon wrote:
We used our #1 Draft pick this year as our #1 Draft Pick Nexr Year. How many Rookie Quarterbacks start in their first year. Think of Campbell as money in the bank, next years draft Gibbs will start to build around him. Because WR and Tight Ends usually start their Rookie seasons. Just watch and learn as the Posse is rebuilt.

Actually we used 2 first rounders (one we picked with and the other we traded away)...a third rounder and a fourth rounder for a developmental QB we could've gotten with our 3rd round pick this year ... but hey ... who's counting ??

That makes no sense .... If we hadn't drafted Campbell and there had never been a trade would we be looking at 2 no 1s next year :?:

.....NO we traded a 1st round pick as part as a package to get a pick.
You can say we spent next year's #1 and fourth rounder plus the 3rd rounder this year
You can group what we trade and the pick that we got...it don't add up

Redskin in Canada · Post by **Redskin in Canada** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:22 pm

SkinsJock wrote:[Exactamundo RiC! Who knows what evil lurks? - you been reading my mail?

There's a lot could happen this season that will dictate what we need to do to address this but first we got to deal with the present.

Going to be an interesting pre-season around here and on the field!

I have been reading as many threads as I can. Your messages too. I am learning from everybody, well almost everybody if you all know what I mean...

Man, this board has come more than alive during the last week. It is hot here!

thaiphoon · Post by **thaiphoon** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:35 pm

That makes no sense .... If we hadn't drafted Campbell and there had never been a trade would we be looking at 2 no 1s next year .....NO we traded a 1st round pick as part as a package to get a pick.
You can say we spent next year's #1 and fourth rounder plus the 3rd rounder this year
You can group what we trade and the pick that we got...it don't add up

We gave up 3 picks but 4 will be USED Campbell this year, our 3rd this year and a 1rst and third next year.

Yes I'm making a point of semantics and yes we're both right.

OCSkins · Post by **OCSkins** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:54 am

When i said that Kiawanuka was the only prospect that I was interested in, I was talking about what we needed. There are some sick ILB prospects and OLB prospects, but the one position we need more than anything is a pass rushing powerhouse DE, that's why Kiawanuka interests me. I watch a lot of College Football which is why I think Mike Williams was overrated, he was easily replaced at USC.

Scottskins · Post by **Scottskins** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:06 am

thaiphoon wrote:
We used our #1 Draft pick this year as our #1 Draft Pick Nexr Year. How many Rookie Quarterbacks start in their first year. Think of Campbell as money in the bank, next years draft Gibbs will start to build around him. Because WR and Tight Ends usually start their Rookie seasons. Just watch and learn as the Posse is rebuilt.

Actually we used 2 first rounders (one we picked with and the other we traded away)...a third rounder and a fourth rounder for a developmental QB we could've gotten with our 3rd round pick this year ... but hey ... who's counting ??

huh? you mean we used 2 first rounders, one we picked Rogers with and one we picked Campbell with? we only used one 1st rounder on campbell...

I've been meaning to say something about this for awhile. We did not use two first rounders on Campbell. We used a 3rd this year, a 1st next year and a 4th next year to move into this years 25th spot. That is using 3 picks to get him and in no way can it be construed any other way. 3 picks, that's it.

and we would definitely not have gotten Campbell in the 3rd round. :roll: