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Gibbs--Going for it
By Rich Tandler Site Editor
Date: Apr 21, 2005

Tandler's Redskins Blog Ver. 4.21.05
Make no mistake, Joe Gibbs is calling the shots and he's shooting for the top.

First of all, before you read a word of what's to follow, you have to realize one thing. Since January 4, 2004 all of the decisions in player personnel matters for the Washington Redskins, including the dealing of and use of draft picks, have been made by one Joe Jackson Gibbs. Love it or hate it, the trade for Denver's first-round pick, #25 overall was not made by Danny Boy or his racquetball partner Vinny. Sure, he gets advice from them and from others, including his coaching staff and yes Snyder and Cerrato were at the press "roundtable" yesterday. But when it comes to nut-cuttin' time, when it's time to hold 'em or fold 'em, it's Joe Gibbs making the call. Period.

The deal wasn't exactly George Allen like in its nature, but it did indicate a sense of urgency to win now. What they did essentially was give up a third and a fourth round pick in order to have the use of a first-round pick for an extra season. What they want is a player who by the time the '06 draft rolls around will have already worked out a contract, gone through a season and gotten rid of his rookie kinks and is ready to star in 2006 rather than starting that whole process a year from now.

Certainly, whether or not such a tradeoff is worth the a fourth and a third, plus whatever difference there may be between the #25 this year and the position of the Redskins '06 pick, is debatable. What's not debatable is that Gibbs is in a win-soon frame of mind.

The team needs to get better to enter the elite in the NFL and that's where Gibbs wants them to be. You do that by getting impact players and you get impact players in free agency and in the first round of the draft. With his hands tied in free agency the $9 million cap hit taken in the Coles trade, he had to do something to move forward this year. Getting the extra first rounder this year has the potential to do that.

All of this is said with the caveat that the Redskins may not end up using that #25 pick or their #9 for that matter. They have let it be known that are willing to move up, move down, or stand pat. There has been talk that the #25 could be used to trade for a veteran player, perhaps Buffalo cornerback Nate Clemons. All of that will be explored in this space in the next 48 hours or so.

No matter what happens, however, will be aimed towards the goal of winning it all in the next couple of years. Gibbs ain't getting any younger and if he's going to get it done, now's the time.

Draft Chart Value

Thanks to a few alert readers, I must stand corrected on one point I made in the last edition of this blog. I stated that the trade with Denver doesn’t equal out on any draft value chart you can find. That was incorrect.

On the standard draft value chart, which assigns points based on the position of a draft pick and that a lot of NFL teams use as a quick way to calculate the worth of a deal while they’re on the clock during the draft, picks in future years are discounted. The point value of the first-rounder the Skins gave up for next year is considerably less than the value of the first-rounder they got from Denver. According to no less an authority than Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins gave up picks worth 715 points to get a pick worth 750.

We’ll have to wait a few years until after we’ve seen the players picked with the draft selections involved in the deal perform to truly judge this trade. And, of course, in the eyes of many in the local and national media the Redskins can do no right. But based on the only objective standard available right now, it appears that the Redskins didn’t severely over pay for Denver’s pick.



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Sounds good to me.

Well, I enjoyed reading this article more than the previous one. It does make sense, JGibbs isn't getting younger and he has to get his business done quickly. I think it's good that he's aggressive in this year's draft. If we can get the right players, we won't need to get them later, meaning we wouldn't be in dire need of a 1st round pick later on. (I don't know....trying to make the best of the situation.)

JGibbs wants to win and he wants to win NOW. He understands that the team needs some specific uprgrades and he's willing to do some abnormal things to get that done. Hopefully the players we get will produce the way we want them to and everything will be fine.

At the end, I trust our coach.

hatsOFF2gibbs wrote:Well,
JGibbs wants to win and he wants to win NOW. He understands that the team needs some specific uprgrades and he's willing to do some abnormal things to get that done. Hopefully the players we get will produce the way we want them to and everything will be fine.

At the end, I trust our coach.

I agree with antone that says that Gibbs want to win now, But more importantly I think that he wants to win another SB before he retires again. That is why I don't think their is a chance in hell that we draft a Jason Camball. If you draft him he WON"T start this year so that means year two is down the tubes if Ramsey doesn't come up big. If Ramsey is out and Camball is in in 06 that meens 06 is toast. So now we would be on year four of the Joe Gibbs era part 2 and Danny Boy hasn't had a coach last past two years and Gibbs is going to make it to year four and that would leave him only two years to win it all.
We are not takng a QB in round 1!

skinsfan#33 wrote:

hatsOFF2gibbs wrote:Well,
JGibbs wants to win and he wants to win NOW. He understands that the team needs some specific uprgrades and he's willing to do some abnormal things to get that done. Hopefully the players we get will produce the way we want them to and everything will be fine.

At the end, I trust our coach.

I agree with antone that says that Gibbs want to win now, But more importantly I think that he wants to win another SB before he retires again. That is why I don't think their is a chance in hell that we draft a Jason Camball. If you draft him he WON"T start this year so that means year two is down the tubes if Ramsey doesn't come up big. If Ramsey is out and Camball is in in 06 that meens 06 is toast. So now we would be on year four of the Joe Gibbs era part 2 and Danny Boy hasn't had a coach last past two years and Gibbs is going to make it to year four and that would leave him only two years to win it all.
We are not takng a QB in round 1!

Yo, his coaching contract might come to an end but I don't think that he will end his career with the Redskins. I think he'll stay with the Redskins as the President for a couple of more years. So, technically we're not as pressed on time. BUT that's with the inference that he will continue to work with the Redskins...

out of the two,(snyder and insane eyes),neither is capable of being a gm,and i have all the respect for coach gibbs in the world,but he needs a gm!he's never been able to do this by himself,and it is a lot to ask him to do that now!that's my opinion as a redskin fan since dec 1969.

I understand that Joe is in charge. Really, the last thing I wanted to read was some more flag waving. What in the blue heck is going on here ?
Regardless of who is chosen, this thing stinks to me unless we get some more picks. Joe's streak of finding second day gems would stand a better chance of continuing if we had a couple more.