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Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:29 pm
by Jake
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At Long Last, Nats Lose
On Opening Day, Washington's First Baseball Team in 34 Years Slips on the Road: Phillies 8, Nationals 4

By Barry Svrluga
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, April 5, 2005; Page D01

PHILADELPHIA, April 4 -- At some point, it changed. History and pomp faded to the beginning of a season's grind. Yes, there was an American flag that covered the entire outfield. Yes, a choir majestically belted out the national anthem. Indeed, there were fans in the stands -- many, in fact -- wearing hats with a script "W" across the front, staring in some combination of disbelief and joy at players with "Washington" scrawled across their chests.

For the first time in 34 years, baseball fans in the nation's capital will be able to pick up the sports section Tuesday, flip back a few pages, look in the standings and find the word "Washington." Those developments -- unthinkable 20 and 10 and even five years ago -- brought no small measure of joy to the Nationals, the team entrusted with bringing baseball back after all these years.


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The Washington Nationals, left, in their gray and blue road uniforms, meet their hosts, the Philadelphia Phillies, at home plate for the singing of the national anthem. (Jonathan Newton -- The Washington Post)

"It gets you geeked up," outfielder Terrmel Sledge said.

But the reality of the day for the Nationals, after the first three hours and 19 minutes of baseball in this historic 2005 season, is that the visiting clubhouse Monday evening at Citizens Bank Park was enveloped in the kind of unmistakable, quiet murmuring that signals a loss.

The particulars of the first game in Washington Nationals history read like this: Philadelphia right-hander Jon Lieber kept the Nationals off-balance early; slight outfielder Kenny Lofton ripped a three-run home run in the fifth for a six-run lead; the Nationals' best comeback opportunity turned into a double-play ball off Sledge's bat; and the Phillies beat the Nationals, 8-4, in front of 44,080 mostly satisfied fans.

Suddenly, so many things were afterthoughts. The long journey from Montreal, where this franchise existed as the Expos for 36 seasons. The vagabond days of the past few years, when it played some of its home games in Puerto Rico, turning homestands into road trips. The fact that Major League Baseball still owns the franchise, keeping close watch on its budget and hindering its ability to truly compete.

"It was exciting," center fielder Brad Wilkerson said. "But I didn't really feel any different than I do every Opening Day."

Some things had changed, to be sure. At one point, a group of Nationals fans started a small but audible "Let's Go Nats!" chant behind the third base dugout. But players and coaches made clear that what mattered most was the loss.

"We don't get into that stuff," Nationals Manager Frank Robinson said. "This is not high school or college. We hear them. It's good to hear that. I don't know if we heard that on the road the previous three years. But we don't get caught up in that. You got to keep focused."

This team, in particular, must keep focused, because its margin for error is so small. Take starting pitcher Livan Hernandez. Last year, he reached the sixth inning in 33 of 35 starts. Monday, he struggled, battling what he said was a wet mound in the second, when he allowed two runs, and eventually getting knocked out in the fifth.

The key blow came with two outs and runners on first and second, when Lofton -- who hit just three homers last year with the New York Yankees -- pulled Hernandez's first pitch to right field, curling it inside the foul pole for a 7-1 Phillies lead.

"I felt the same as spring training," Hernandez said. "I threw one bad pitch, and guy hits a home run -- and that's the game."

At that point, Hernandez would seem to be right. Lieber, the veteran known for pinpoint control, worked the ball in and out through the first five innings, going to three balls on just one batter.

But with two outs in the sixth, Sledge came up with a man on and stroked the first pitch -- an inside fastball -- into the right-field seats. That cut the lead to 7-3. And an inning later, it was Sledge again. Vinny Castilla had already drawn a bases-loaded walk off reliever Ryan Madson to make it 7-4.

The 28-year-old Sledge was a rookie last year, but he led the Expos by hitting .337 with runners in scoring position. General Manager Jim Bowden said this spring that when he looked Sledge in the eye, he got the feeling he wanted this kid up in a tough situation, with key runs on base.

Well, here it was, the first such situation in Nationals' history, the chance to be Washington's first baseball hero in a generation. Madson threw three straight balls before Sledge took a strike, then fouled off the 3-1 pitch. With the count full and only one out, Sledge saw a pitch he liked, and swung. But he bounced it to second baseman Placido Polanco, who calmly started the double play that ended the Nationals' chances.

"I was kicking myself in the butt for a couple innings," Sledge said, "because it was probably the best pitch I'd seen all day."

In essence, that was it. The Nationals ended up with 13 hits, but just two -- Sledge's home run and a double from catcher Brian Schneider -- went for extra bases. In four at-bats with runners in scoring position, they failed to get a single hit.

"It just goes to show you," Robinson said. "It's when you get the hits, not how many you get."

When Phillies closer Billy Wagner finished off a 1-2-3 ninth, the Nationals headed to the clubhouse. Tuesday is an off day. In a season of firsts, they must wait for the most important first -- a win -- for at least two days.

"There wasn't no pageantry for the D.C. Nationals today," reliever Joey Eischen said. "We came here to kick some butt -- and we didn't. But we'll be out Wednesday, and we're going to bring it."


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/ar ... 5Apr4.html

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:35 pm
by JansenFan
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!

BAL 4 OAK 0

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:42 pm
by NC43Hog
JansenFan wrote:LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!

BAL 4 OAK 0


Bandwagoner! :nana:

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:42 pm
by BringThePain!
It was a good game to watch, until like the thrid inning... but it was still nice to root for a Washington Baseball team... win or lose...

FRICK THE O's and FRICK YOU!!!

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:48 pm
by Redskins1974
Too bad Peter A-holio is still around or I'd consider rooting for both teams. Until then, my team is the Nats - win or lose.

so, yeah, like BTP said... :-)

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:52 pm
by JansenFan
I guess if a football team popped up closer to your house you would all say frick the redskins too, huh.

I'm 29. there's never been a team in Washington as long as I have been alive. I have grown up a die-hard O's fan as much as a die-hard Redskins fans.

To those who switched so easily, I guess you can't say much about raven's fans any more.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:58 pm
by BringThePain!
I was a Yankees fan growing up... and got to watch them kick the O's keaster every year and loved every minute of it.... they're still my AL team.... I even went to a game were the O's played Boston.. and I rooted for Boston.. :shock:

The team in Washington was never there because Angelos wouldn't ever let it be there.... until he was forced to...

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:15 pm
by Jake
JansenFan wrote:I guess if a football team popped up closer to your house you would all say frick the redskins too, huh.

I'm 29. there's never been a team in Washington as long as I have been alive. I have grown up a die-hard O's fan as much as a die-hard Redskins fans.

To those who switched so easily, I guess you can't say much about raven's fans any more.


Yes I can (and I will). :twisted:

The Nationals aren't any closer to me than Baltimore. I have always been a D.C. guy and always planned on becoming a D.C. Baseball fan. I still root for the O's and am glad that they won yesterday. I just wish that there was a D.C. team for me to grow up with so I wouldn't feel like a traitor.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:09 pm
by SkinsChic
JansenFan wrote:LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!
LETS GO O'S!!

BAL 4 OAK 0

"Get Well Jansen"

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:36 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
It's too bad we lost yesterday. I'm not much of a baseball fan, so I never really followed the O's, but the Nats give me a clean slate to entertain the idea of being a baseball fan.

BTW, anyone going to the home opener? I hear tickets are hard to come by these days.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:57 pm
by Wysocki
I'll be there - way up in section 509...good ol' RFK...

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:43 pm
by Redskins1974
Wysocki wrote:I'll be there - way up in section 509...good ol' RFK...


Section 405, Row 8 is where I'll be parked at RFK.

And, JansenFan - I've been a Redskin fan my whole life but when the Browns move to B-more, I actually lived closer to B-more at that time but didn't change teams for that reason. I've rooted for the O's out of default and b/c when I was a kid, "The Oriole Way" meant something and they were the only team in town. I am actually more of a National league fan and saw my first baseball game at Wrigley Field when I was around 9 so really, I followed the NL (the Cubs in particular). Now that we have a National league team in DC, I'm all over them. If Angelos played nice AND TRIED to put a nice product on the field without making excuses, I'd happily follow AL and NL teams nearby.

I have actually taken an active role in trying get a team here since '97, the last time the O's did anything worthwhile on the field. Since then, Angelos has soured it all for me. So, I hope the O's start playing nice b/c I'd love to hit up some games at Camden but until then, I'm not supporting any business of Angelos.

Plus, I was born in DC. I have no connection to Baltimore - DC's my home and I root for my home teams.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:47 pm
by Alcatraz
Who do they play next anyway????

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:18 pm
by Redskins1974
Alcatraz wrote:Who do they play next anyway????


The Philies tomorrow and Thursday then the Marlins...

Here's a link to their schedule:

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/NAS ... p?c_id=was

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:46 pm
by Justice Hog
Well....as Jake knows...I'm a Phillies fan.

The only baseball team Delaware has is a Class A affliliate of the Boston Red Sox - the Wilmington Blue Rocks. I love going to Blue Rocks games! (They used to be affliliated with the Royals up until last year.) The stadium is small and cozy...not a bad seat in the house. That is my "favorite" baseball team to go to......with the Phillies being #2.

Sorry, Jake.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:16 pm
by Alcatraz
Redskins1974 wrote:
Alcatraz wrote:Who do they play next anyway????


The Philies tomorrow and Thursday then the Marlins...

Here's a link to their schedule:

http://washington.nationals.mlb.com/NAS ... p?c_id=was


Ahh thank you

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:18 pm
by ejay183
hey Alcatraz You are Yankees fan, why do you want the Nats schedule

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:22 pm
by washington53
Well i dont care if we win or loose, its just great to have a Team play for D.C. again.

Posted: Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:33 pm
by Alcatraz
ejay183 wrote:hey Alcatraz You are Yankees fan, why do you want the Nats schedule


Cuase I wanna see what good teams they play so that I can go to the games sometimes

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:31 am
by JansenFan
BringThePain! wrote:The team in Washington was never there because Angelos wouldn't ever let it be there.... until he was forced to...


:hmm:

I don't think Angelos has owned the Orioles for 34 years.....I could be wrong though. Regardless, you can't blame a guy for trying to protect his assets, even if it conflicts with what you want. Owning a sports franchise is a major investment.

If you owned a McDonalds and someone wanted to open a new one right across the street, I'm sure you would want to do something to protect yourself.

As for the rest, don't get me wrong. I will follow the Nats as my second team and I hope they do well, but I can't just drop the team I have rooted for all my life. I actually feel loyalty to the teams I root for.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:06 am
by BringThePain!
JansenFan wrote:
BringThePain! wrote:The team in Washington was never there because Angelos wouldn't ever let it be there.... until he was forced to...


:hmm:

I don't think Angelos has owned the Orioles for 34 years.....I could be wrong though. Regardless, you can't blame a guy for trying to protect his assets, even if it conflicts with what you want. Owning a sports franchise is a major investment.


He's been the owner for about 12 years.. I believe... and in those 12 years.. expantion teams like the Devil Rays, Marlins, and Diamondbacks have popped up... Why not Washington? I'm sure Angelos and his best bud Selig had something to do with it....

Protecting their assests? I've lived in Baltimore.. that city and the surrounding area is big enough and vibrant enough to give the O's all the asset protection they need... The O's assets were failing long before the Nats came into the picture... this comes from not being able to field a competative team over and over again through almost 2 decades... except for a year here or there...

They've been a sorry franchise for a long, long time... and that's why he needed to hord in Washingtonians... make up for the lack of Baltimore area interest....


JansenFan wrote:If you owned a McDonalds and someone wanted to open a new one right across the street, I'm sure you would want to do something to protect yourself.


The Nats aren't McDonalds... they're Burger King... not the same thing... Bad analogy... It's like saying that we got a Baseball team in Washington called the Orioles...

but I see what you were getting at and to answer it... The Baltimore/Washington Area is big enough to field two teams, easily... haven't you been around here enough and seen how much this area has grown in the past 15 years? and it's still growing...

JansenFan wrote:As for the rest, don't get me wrong. I will follow the Nats as my second team and I hope they do well, but I can't just drop the team I have rooted for all my life. I actually feel loyalty to the teams I root for.


I'm gonna take that last line as non intentional... just this time though.. ;)

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:16 am
by JansenFan
Actually the last line wasn't intended for you, as you stated you rooted for the Yankees growing up. It actually should have said, " As for the rest of you", and was merely a statement of why I feel the way I do.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:11 am
by Redskins1974
"As for the rest, don't get me wrong. I will follow the Nats as my second team and I hope they do well, but I can't just drop the team I have rooted for all my life. I actually feel loyalty to the teams I root for."

I'm extremely loyal to my teams. I never felt like the O's were MY team. In a sense, I felt a loyalty but not the same as the other teams I root for. I love going to Camden and old Memorial stadium, followed them but they never stuck to my heart like the Redskins, Cubs, Bullets, Shoremen (Washington College - alma mater). Plus, I'm not jumping on a bandwagon either - like I said earlier, I've been actively trying to get a team in DC or a number of years now b/c I simply think this area can have two teams and as a matter of fact, I think both teams can become better as a result. Plus, not to sound like an A-hole but as a Washingtonian, Baltimore is a completely separate town with a completely separate identity; therefore, I've never "felt it" like I would a true home team.

I just wish Angelos would embrace the idea instead of driving a wedge between the teams, it's quickly forcing me to change my mind and loyalty, which pisses me off.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:06 pm
by Irn-Bru
Redskins1974 wrote:. . .like I said earlier, I've been actively trying to get a team in DC or a number of years now b/c I simply think this area can have two teams and as a matter of fact, I think both teams can become better as a result. Plus, not to sound like an A-hole but as a Washingtonian, Baltimore is a completely separate town with a completely separate identity; therefore, I've never "felt it" like I would a true home team.



I agree with '74 here. I don't like Baltimore fans in general, but I do have general respect for the fans that simply didn't have an NFL team that was "their" team from 1984 till '96(?). It's not a bandwagon thing if one's loyalties lie with a city as opposed to teams (this is why I have less respect for people that like the Yankees, Duke, the Redskins, and the Lakers even if they have legitimately liked all of those particular teams for their entire life).

Being born in the early 80's, I've never seen a baseball team in Washington and because of this I've never been a fan of baseball in general. It's going to take me a few years to really get into it and understand the strategy / flow of the game, but I'm going to start this year.

I don't think that liking the O's is any worse. . .and personally I'm not sure what I would do had I grown up liking the O's / Skins and had the Nats come to town.

Posted: Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:36 pm
by BringThePain!
FanfromAnnapolis wrote:. . .and personally I'm not sure what I would do had I grown up liking the O's / Skins and had the Nats come to town.


You would have been the laughing stock of Baltimore & DC fashion... coming to town in your Burgundy & Gold Jersey with your Black & Orange cap on....

thank goodness you're one of the lucky ones.. :shock: