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Compensatory Picks announced

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:15 am
by BossHog
NFL management council released the 32 compensatory draft selections yesterday:

http://www.the-hogs.net/content/main.php?id=442

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:35 am
by trey53
How do they figure giving the NFL champs an extra 3rd round pick? Like they need help. This list smells...

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 10:51 am
by BossHog
trey53 wrote:How do they figure giving the NFL champs an extra 3rd round pick? Like they need help. This list smells...


Lost: Mike Compton, Bobby Hamilton, Ted Washington, Damien Woody
Signed: Keith Traylor

Seems reasonable to me...

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:54 am
by groundss
Will we most likely get any picks next year for the departures of Smoot and Pierce?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 12:08 pm
by BossHog
Impossible to answer in the middle of an offseason since the formula is based on a 'net loss' and therefore must take into account ALL free agency movement.

We might.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:34 pm
by joebagadonuts
doe sit also have to do with how the departed free agents perform the next season?

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:38 pm
by BossHog
yes it does.

There is a thread on compensatory picks we had just a week or two ago.

http://www.the-hogs.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11856

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:00 pm
by die cowboys die
BossHog wrote:
trey53 wrote:How do they figure giving the NFL champs an extra 3rd round pick? Like they need help. This list smells...


Lost: Mike Compton, Bobby Hamilton, Ted Washington, Damien Woody
Signed: Keith Traylor

Seems reasonable to me...


how? they chose to let those players go. if they wanted to keep them, they could've given them more money than the other team. it's not as if they were "stolen" with no opportunity to retain them. if they didn't have the money, it was because of the salary cap. so a team should be rewarded for using up all its cap space? :hmm:

the whole issue of compensatory picks seems pretty ridiculous. why does a team that had a GOOD player get rewarded for letting him walk away, whereas a team that CUTS a player who underperforms gets nothing. doesn't the team that never benefitted from the good player need more help?

the two teams that made the superbowl are getting 3 and 4 extra picks each in the draft because they let players go before the season. obvioiusly it didn't hurt their teams to do so! there are a hundred things about this that are contrary to common sense. cvillehog suggested to me that it was probably something put in the original CBA that first had free agency, in order to sell it to the owners-- "don't worry, if you lose a good player, we'll make it up to you, we'll give you a draft pick!" well, free agency has been here a while and all the owners have bought into it, so here's hoping this absurd policy is abolished in the new CBA they're working on now.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:21 pm
by JansenFan
That won't happen. The players couldn't care less and the owners sure benefit.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:51 pm
by die cowboys die
i'm also sure it won't happen. which is stupid because the policy is asinine.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:55 pm
by JansenFan
Think of it this way. Coach Gibbs is using the Pats as his basis of operation. That means in a few seasons we will be benefiting from this rule. Let's not abolish it quite yet. :up:

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:26 pm
by joebagadonuts
i'm sure it's a rule based on parity. if you lose good players because you can't afford to pay them, you get reimbursed for your loss, so your team won't be at the bottom of the league, theoretically.

NFL Awards Compensatory Draft Picks: Redskins get the shaft!

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:39 pm
by Skinna Mob
I didnt see this posted in this thread...and I be darn if I will start a new thread and get my head "soprano'ed off" LOL

http://www.redskins.com/news/draftCentralDetail.jsp?id=6231

This is some cold BS:

As a result of the compensation picks in the third round, the Redskins' picks in the fourth, sixth and seventh rounds have been adjusted:


The fourth-round selection drops to the 112th overall (11th pick in the round)
The sixth-round selection drops to the 183rd overall (9th pick in the round)
The seventh-round selection drops to the 222nd overall (8th pick in th round)
The number of picks a team receives and the rounds they come in are based on a formula that takes into account salary, playing time and postseason honors by players they lost. The maximum any one team can get is four picks.


That is ridiculous!!!! I am so tight faced right now!!!

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:34 pm
by SkinsJock
Skinna Mob, if you were concerned before this might be of interest!

COMPENSATION PICKS AND HOW IT EFFECTS THE DRAFT:
The compensatory picks have been award since 1993, and four teams, Dallas (25), Green Bay (22), Philadelphia (21) and Buffalo (20) each have been awarded 20-or-more additional choices over that period of time.

One interesting note about the compensation picks is that over 12-year period of time ('93-'05), the teams who have received the most additional choices, which range from a low of 12 (Minnesota) to a high of 25 (Dallas)... well of the 13 teams who have received the most choices, 10 of them have made at least one Super Bowl appearance during that same period of time, including New England, Dallas, Green Bay, Baltimore, St. Louis who have all won Super Bowls between 1993 and 2005.

A final oddity of this year's compensation picks is that part of the formula that decided the Denver Broncos should receive two additional third round choices came because they lost linebacker IAN GOLD to Tampa Bay, as a free agent... but he has since returned to the Broncos after being released by the Buccaneers... so they now have an extra third round choice and the player who they are being compensated for losing back on their active roster within the same 12-month period of time... there were some who thought they would not get two high selections for losing Bertrand Berry (Arizona) and Ian Gold (Tampa Bay) because another portion of the formula used by the Management Council takes into consideration the size/length of the contract given to the free agent players lost, so since Tampa Bay released Gold after only one season, the actual value of his contract turned out to be much less than originally anticipated when it was signed.

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:00 pm
by Skinna Mob
SkinsJock wrote:Skinna Mob, if you were concerned before this might be of interest!

COMPENSATION PICKS AND HOW IT EFFECTS THE DRAFT:
The compensatory picks have been award since 1993, and four teams, Dallas (25), Green Bay (22), Philadelphia (21) and Buffalo (20) each have been awarded 20-or-more additional choices over that period of time.

One interesting note about the compensation picks is that over 12-year period of time ('93-'05), the teams who have received the most additional choices, which range from a low of 12 (Minnesota) to a high of 25 (Dallas)... well of the 13 teams who have received the most choices, 10 of them have made at least one Super Bowl appearance during that same period of time, including New England, Dallas, Green Bay, Baltimore, St. Louis who have all won Super Bowls between 1993 and 2005.

A final oddity of this year's compensation picks is that part of the formula that decided the Denver Broncos should receive two additional third round choices came because they lost linebacker IAN GOLD to Tampa Bay, as a free agent... but he has since returned to the Broncos after being released by the Buccaneers... so they now have an extra third round choice and the player who they are being compensated for losing back on their active roster within the same 12-month period of time... there were some who thought they would not get two high selections for losing Bertrand Berry (Arizona) and Ian Gold (Tampa Bay) because another portion of the formula used by the Management Council takes into consideration the size/length of the contract given to the free agent players lost, so since Tampa Bay released Gold after only one season, the actual value of his contract turned out to be much less than originally anticipated when it was signed.


NASTY...I am bout to go URL....

Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:10 pm
by BossHog
... freaking out about dropping a couple of spots in each of rounds 4,6 and 7...

... damn... we were gonna pick Bob up at #219 but we know he won't be there for us at #222.

:roll:

Posted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 12:47 am
by The Hogster
Any thing that benefits the Dallas Cow-girls must be abolished immediately. Let's carjack Bill Parsmells and Jerry Bones for their draft picks.

Hey NFL here's what I think of giving the pukes 25 picks...:moon: