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SI Coles article

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 3:48 pm
by Brandon777
It looks like this was a bitter divorce.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/w ... /08/coles/

Once he passes a routine physical Wednesday, his trade from the Washington Redskins will be consummated and he'll officially be a New York Jets wide receiver again. Given how much we've heard about Coles' frustration this past season, there shouldn't be a more delighted player in the NFL. There's no question he lucked into the best opportunity he could find after his time in D.C.
Coles will be reunited with his close friend, quarterback Chad Pennington, while playing in an offense that should be far more aggressive with new coordinator Mike Heimerdinger calling the plays. He'll play with a better supporting cast on a playoff-caliber team. He also gets to be happy again. That's the biggest boon for a player who described every week of last season as a "miserable" experience and added that the most important lesson he learned while in Washington was "trust nobody."
If you want to know how badly Coles and the Redskins needed a divorce, consider this: Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."
Snyder didn't return phone calls about that comment but it's easy to understand his irritation. He gave Coles a then franchise-record $13 million signing bonus two years ago. He expected Coles to be an integral part of the offense for many years. Now Snyder was watching the same player call his shots on the way out of town -- Coles eventually secured a reported $15 million in guaranteed money over the next three years while forcing the Redskins to take a huge salary cap hit -- and it stung.
But Snyder wasn't the reason Coles wanted out of Washington. Joe Gibbs was. Coles never felt comfortable with the Hall of Fame head coach. He was wary of Gibbs as far back as training camp. Coles feared that the coach (who was traveling and couldn't be reached for comment) would favor a conservative, run-first offense featuring Clinton Portis -- and that's exactly what happened.
Though Coles caught a career-high 90 passes last season, he averaged a career-low 10.6 yards per reception and scored only one touchdown (which Portis threw to him on a halfback-option pass). Coles never publicly aired his bitterness but he privately bristled about Gibbs' strategies: the coach's unwillingness to move the receiver around in the offense, the lack of downfield passing and the predictable nature of the system.
He often commiserated with Rod Gardner, another Redskins receiver in search of a trade. "We'd shake our heads and wonder where we fit in every time we saw a new game plan," said Coles, who became a Pro Bowl receiver while playing in Steve Spurrier's pass-happy system a year earlier. "People say we're leaving now because we're selfish, but how are you supposed to be happy as a receiver when you go from a passing offense to a running offense? This wasn't what I signed up for."
Coles' main complaint about Gibbs was the coach's inflexible nature. "I didn't feel respected as a player," Coles said. "I know everything changed [when Gibbs succeeded Spurrier] but when you feel like you're one of the best players at your position, you'd think you could talk to a coach about the play-calling. We didn't have that situation. He called the plays. We ran them. That's where things fell off with me. I realize it's a dictatorship but there's only so much you can take."
When the season ended, Coles met twice with Gibbs in order to air grievances. Neither session led to any positive results. "We concluded that it was best to go our separate ways," Coles said. "I don't want to get into the details but he basically said he didn't trust me, and I said I didn't trust him."
At that point, Coles wasn't sure where his career would go, but he was excited when the Jets aggressively pursued a trade.
Coles was bitter when New York didn't try harder to retain him as a free agent two years ago so the Jets' recent interest convinced him that the team still believed in his talents. The team's lack of concern with Coles' broken right big toe has been welcome news as well. He sustained the injury in the third game of the 2003 season and the Redskins believed it hindered his explosiveness. They wanted Coles to undergo surgery after this season but he balked because doctors told him the operation should be seen only as a last option (it could be a career-threatening procedure if it's unsuccessful). Coles adds that his condition improved with the help of a cortisone shot prior to a game at Philadelphia last November. "From what I've been told, it's not a problem as long as I'm running and cutting fine," Coles said. "Until it gets to the point where I can't walk, I don't need surgery."
The Jets won't comment on the trade until it's official, but they're clearly thrilled with Coles' return. He's a better receiver than Santana Moss, whom New York gave up in the deal, and he's more appreciative of a second chance with the team that drafted him. Coles also can't say enough good things about the Jets, including "the family atmosphere" fostered by head coach Herm Edwards.
As for positive comments about the Redskins, Coles is working on that. He's already reconciled with Snyder and there's even been some progress made with Gibbs. "We came to the conclusion that if we met in the street, we could shake hands and be cordial," Coles said of Gibbs. "But that's about it."
That acrimony might subside the longer Coles plays in New York. After all, he's landed in the best possible situation. The more he focuses on that, the better off he'll be.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:04 pm
by redskincity
I knew that Coles was unhappy with the run style offense Gibbs uses.

...So were some fans

Re: SI Coles article

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 5:14 pm
by Skinna Mob
Brandon777 wrote: "We concluded that it was best to go our separate ways," Coles said. "I don't want to get into the details but he basically said he didn't trust me, and I didn't trust him".


Its that very mentality is why I say Forget Coles man!!! Who the heck does he think he is? Someone please tell me! How can you not trsut a coach who has more credentials than 10 Cles and 10 Jet teams? Not to mention, 3 dam SB rings to back it up. I dont know off hand, but have the Jets organization ever won a SB?

I tried to refrain from bashing this dude cause he is tough, and was bamboozled into believeing he was a Redskin. Boy do I feel like a stale sucker. :oops: This dude is a real prick. I give it to him, he pulled a "Prime Time Pimp" move on Snyder. But given his character or lack there of, I wouldnt be surprised if Snyder was like whats 5mil to me, to eradicate this jerk.

I hope his toe rots off...

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:23 pm
by Redskins1974
:-({|= :-({|= :-({|=

Cry me a freakin' river. Coles has turned from one of my favorites to a prick real quickly. Have fun trying to win a SB with the Jets you friggin' punk and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

What's he going to complain about next?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:26 pm
by SirSmizzy
"Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."

LOL....Snyder is a class act

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:32 pm
by Deadskins
His whole argument about how the cortisone shot solved his problems is specious at best. Not only did he not regain his explosiveness and seperation ability, but he only masked the pain he was feeling and didn't address the underlying injury. He is only going to damage his foot more by playing on it without getting it fixed. I'm betting he won't even be able to play out his new contract with the Jets.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:37 pm
by BringThePain!
SirSmizzy wrote:LOL....Snyder is a class act


I agree... one of a kind and and speaks from the heart, I wouldn't like to have an owner who's any less... well said... :up:

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:43 pm
by SirSmizzy
BringThePain! wrote:
SirSmizzy wrote:LOL....Snyder is a class act


I agree... one of a kind and and speaks from the heart, I wouldn't like to have an owner who's any less... well said... :up:


you have boss hogg syndrome and should seek help for those delusions immediately

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 6:44 pm
by Redskins1974
SirSmizzy wrote:"Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."

LOL....Snyder is a class act


For once, I don't blame Snyder... Coles is his investment and his investment just screwed him over. Personally, that's what I was hoping we'd do - sit him on the bench, not let him play but pay him. We would have taken less of a cap hit and he wouldn't gain any stats.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:10 pm
by oafusp
Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."


I LOVE DAN SNYDER!!!! :up:

I wish I was in the room when that went down.

SCREW COLES. HE WILL NEVER BE A GREAT WR.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:16 pm
by LAfan
Hey Smizzy talk about a class act. What a class act Coles is. Based on a previous interview, Coles suggested he did the jets a favor by taking less money than he is worth just to make the deal go through. Excuse me, but if he wanted out that badly he would have just gone through with the trade based on his current contract with the skins. If I remember correctly he almost killed the deal with his greed. He has proven to everybody that thought he was a good guy including myself that he has no allegiance to anybody or any team. The only thing he cares about is money. He will do anything for the right dollar amount. I don't know about you but in my book that is a whore plain and simple. We all know how classy they are. :roll: I hope you guys (jets fans) a singing the same tune about how great he is at the end of the season when he cries that 90 catches wasn't enough. Good riddance Coles.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:16 pm
by SirSmizzy
oafusp wrote:
Redskins owner Daniel Snyder threatened Coles when the receiver's refusal to accept the trade without a contract extension thwarted the deal last month. "He said that if I stayed in Washington, he would turn me into another Terry Glenn," Coles said. (Glenn, now with the Cowboys, missed most of the 2001 season with New England as his public feud with head coach Bill Belichick resulted in various fines, suspensions and ultimately Glenn's benching). "He said he would send a flat-screen television to my home because I'd be better off watching the games there. That was his way of saying I'd be sitting for the next couple years until they cut me."


I LOVE DAN SNYDER!!!! :up:

I wish I was in the room when that went down.

SCREW COLES. HE WILL NEVER BE A GREAT WR.


LOL

Im afraid it's snyder who will never be a great NFL Owner.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:17 pm
by SirSmizzy
LAfan wrote:Hey Smizzy talk about a class act. What a class act Coles is. Based on a previous interview, Coles suggested he did the jets a favor by taking less money than he is worth just to make the deal go through. Excuse me, but if he wanted out that badly he would have just gone through with the trade based on his current contract with the skins. If I remember correctly he almost killed the deal with his greed. He has proven to everybody that thought he was a good guy including myself that he has no allegiance to anybody or any team. The only thing he cares about is money. He will do anything for the right dollar amount. I don't know about you but in my book that is a whore plain and simple. We all know how classy they are. :roll: I hope you guys (jets fans) a singing the same tune about how great he is at the end of the season when he cries that 90 catches wasn't enough. Good riddance Coles.


What do you call the guy who throws money at wh!res?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:19 pm
by Redskins1974
What do you call January 12, 1969?

The last time you went to the Super Bowl.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:21 pm
by LAfan
LAfan wrote:
Hey Smizzy talk about a class act. What a class act Coles is. Based on a previous interview, Coles suggested he did the jets a favor by taking less money than he is worth just to make the deal go through. Excuse me, but if he wanted out that badly he would have just gone through with the trade based on his current contract with the skins. If I remember correctly he almost killed the deal with his greed. He has proven to everybody that thought he was a good guy including myself that he has no allegiance to anybody or any team. The only thing he cares about is money. He will do anything for the right dollar amount. I don't know about you but in my book that is a whore plain and simple. We all know how classy they are. I hope you guys (jets fans) a singing the same tune about how great he is at the end of the season when he cries that 90 catches wasn't enough. Good riddance Coles.


What do you call the guy who throws money at whores?

Obviously Bradway and Edwards!

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:22 pm
by Redskins1974
Redskins1974 wrote:What do you call January 12, 1969?

The last time you went to the Super Bowl.


Sorry Boss - I didn't follow the rules on that one! My bad...

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:22 pm
by SirSmizzy
Redskins1974 wrote:What do you call January 12, 1969?

The last time you went to the Super Bowl.


LOL...How weak can you guys be?

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:25 pm
by Redskins1974
You were obviously trying to draw one us into an answer with, "What do you call the guy who throws money at whores?"

So - just wanted to throw that one at ya. I actually don't mind the Jets man... chill

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 7:27 pm
by SirSmizzy
Redskins1974 wrote:You were obviously trying to draw one us into an answer with, "What do you call the guy who throws money at whores?"

So - just wanted to throw that one at ya. I actually don't mind the Jets man... chill

Draw you out? You own man called coles a whore ,spare my the drama.

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:33 pm
by Redskins1974
SirSmizzy wrote:
Redskins1974 wrote:You were obviously trying to draw one us into an answer with, "What do you call the guy who throws money at whores?"

So - just wanted to throw that one at ya. I actually don't mind the Jets man... chill

Draw you out? You own man called coles a whore ,spare my the drama.


It doesn't matter anymore - have fun with your whore. He'll please you until he gets in the Red Zone and fail to catch any TD's. That was his wrap as a Jet (one of my best friends is a Jet fan and that's all I heard for the past two years) and look at his stats with us - he didn't catch many here either. Go back and look at the tapes - the ball was thrown long to him and he failed to get open last season so why should we have kept throwing long to a man with a bad toe, who couldn't get separation. He sounds like a frustrated man who has lost a step and is making excuses and taking it out on everyone but himself. He's complaining about a HOF coach, with creditials he'll never live up to so he feels the need to whine like a weeee little baby.