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Browns Trade For Dilfer

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 3:33 am
by Jake
Updated: Mar. 5, 2005, 8:45 PM ET

Browns lost Holcomb to free agency
By Len Pasquarelli, ESPN.com

Just one day after the man they had targeted as their starter for 2005 signed elsewhere, the Cleveland Browns rebounded nicely on Saturday evening, reaching an agreement in principle on a trade that will net them Seattle Seahawks backup quarterback Trent Dilfer.

The Seahawks will reportedly receive a fourth-round pick in next month's NFL draft. The pick is the one the Browns received from the Broncos earlier in the week in exchange for defensive tackle Gerard Warren.

There remain a few details to be addressed before the swap is official, but sources said there is no likelihood the deal will fall apart. Cleveland is expected to compensate the Seahawks with a middle-round draft choice. The trade is the first consummated by new Seattle team president Tim Ruskell, who was hired less than two weeks ago.

The deal is not altogether surprising, since the two franchises have been in discussions for a few days. Unrestricted free agent Kelly Holcomb, who the Browns hoped to re-sign as their starter, on Friday night reached agreement with the Buffalo Bills on a four-year, $6.6 million contract.

Losing the journeyman Holcomb to the Bills, just a few days after negotiations with the veteran had reached an impasse, accelerated trade talks with the Seahawks. Seattle team officials had promised the highly respected Dilfer, an 11-year veteran, they would consider trading him if it meant an opportunity for him to be a starter again.

Certainly the deal represents a tremendous opportunity for Dilfer, since he is all but assured of opening the 2005 season as the Cleveland starter.

The trade reunites Dilfer with first-year Browns general manager Phil Savage, who was the personnel director at Baltimore in 2000, when Dilfer led the Ravens to a victory over the New York Giants in Super Bowl XXXV.

While he hasn't started more than eight games in a season since 1999, when he was with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Dilfer represents precisely what the Browns were seeking as they move into the Romeo Crennel Era. The rookie head coach wanted an experienced player, one who would work well with the younger quarterbacks like Luke McCown and Josh Harris, and serve as a stable presence during the team's transition.

Cleveland has the third overall choice in next month's draft and could still select a quarterback with that pick. But the Browns seem reluctant to invest an eight-figure signing bonus on even a top quarterback prospect, such as Aaron Rodgers of the University of California or Alex Smith of Utah.

Dilfer has started only 12 games during his four-year stint in Seattle, including only two starts in the last two seasons. He hasn't registered more than 100 attempts since the 2000 season in Baltimore and has thrown only 13 touchdown passes the past four years.

Still, the classy Dilfer is a solid competitor, a quarterback with good grasp of a variety of offenses, and fits Crennel's desire for a more conventional dropback-style passer who can throw the deep ball with precision and stretch the field a bit.

A former first-round draft choice of the Bucs (1994), Dilfer played the first six seasons of his career with Tampa Bay. He moved to the Ravens in 2000 after the Bucs released him in part for salary cap reasons, then signed with the Seahawks in 2001. He has completed 1,447 of 2,620 passes for 17,031 yards, with 95 touchdown passes, 105 interceptions and a career passer rating of 70.6.

Only twice in his career, the 1997 and '98 seasons with the Bucs, has Dilger thrown more than 12 touchdown passes, as he notched 21 in both those campaigns.

There is only one season remaining on Dilfer's contract, at a base salary of $1.25 million, and the Browns are likely to quickly enter into negotiations aimed at an extension.

Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com. To check out Len's chat archive, click here .


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Re: Browns Trade For Dilfer

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:50 pm
by tcwest10
Jake quotes Lenny when he wrote:Just one day after the man they had targeted as their starter for 2005 signed elsewhere, the Cleveland Browns The trade reunites Dilfer with first-year Browns general manager Phil Savage, who was the personnel director at Baltimore in 2000, when Dilfer led the Ravens to a victory over the New York Giants in Super Bowl XXXV.


ROTFALMAO ROTFALMAO :puke:

Re: Browns Trade For Dilfer

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 4:56 pm
by Primetime42
tcwest10 wrote:
Jake quotes Lenny when he wrote:Just one day after the man they had targeted as their starter for 2005 signed elsewhere, the Cleveland Browns The trade reunites Dilfer with first-year Browns general manager Phil Savage, who was the personnel director at Baltimore in 2000, when Dilfer led the Ravens to a victory over the New York Giants in Super Bowl XXXV.


ROTFALMAO ROTFALMAO :puke:
Aw come on, give him SOME credit :lol:

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:03 pm
by tcwest10
Okay, okay. He was there. Alright ?

Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 8:51 pm
by welch
But to make Dilfer your starter???

I still remember watching the NFL draft that year...Dilfer or Shuler? Shuler or Dilfer? Who would the Bucs take? The ESPN draft maven was going nuts because the Colts had traded <a QB who shall remain nameless> and they refused to pick a QB. Instead, they drafted a runner named Marshall Faulk. "Inconceivable!" ESPN was irate. How could the Colts ignore a direct order from ESPN???

ESPN showed clips of Dilfer and Shuler, explaining why both were sure-fire franchise-carrying QB's.

Ah, but Dilfer is still playing. I think we should award the annual "Earl Morrall Award for Having a Long Career as a QB Without Ever Being Much Good or Achieving Anything". It seems to me that Dilfer's contribution to the Ravens Super Bowl was that he didn't do much to undermine that defense.

Current contestants should be Dilfer and Testaverde.

Previous winners would include Steve Deberg, Lamar McHan, and Zeke Bratkowski.

Any other suggestions? From our own Redskins, how about Gus "Stonehead" Frerotte?

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:52 am
by Jake
welch wrote:But to make Dilfer your starter???


I'd make him my starter over Luke McCown and Josh Harris any day, although I have liked Harris since watching him in Bowling Green in 2003.

welch wrote:The ESPN draft maven was going nuts because the Colts had traded <a QB who shall remain nameless>


Since when has Jeff George been nameless? :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:12 am
by joebagadonuts
welch wrote:Previous winners would include Steve Deberg, Lamar McHan, and Zeke Bratkowski.

Any other suggestions?


vince evans; 15 years, 1 playoff appearance (a loss to the bills in '90), not in the top 50 of any nfl category.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... anVi00.htm

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 1:16 am
by Irn-Bru
Jake wrote:Since when has Jeff George been nameless?


I think since the day he spread his cancer into our locker-room in that abysmal year when Deion Sanders and George were on the Redskins roster. (Many here would also put Bruce Smith in the same sentence).

:puke:


Let's have no more years like that, okay? :D

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 7:49 pm
by welch
Joebag suggested:
vince evans; 15 years, 1 playoff appearance (a loss to the bills in '90), not in the top 50 of any nfl category.


Ah! Evans is exactly the kind of guy who should be nominated for the Earl Morrall Award.

Evans threw a long TD pass to beat the Redskins at the end of the '92 regular season, appearing to knock the Skins out of the playoffs. I thought, Evans?? Evans???? Wasn't he the Rams' starter that Pat Haden replaced? How can he still be playing?


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Jake might have an entry:

[Steve] "Miller served as the third quarterback for the Patriots last season. An 11-year pro who has started 27 career games, Miller was behind Tom Brady and Rohan Davey on the depth chart."



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