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His injury-plagued 2004 season now behind him, LaVar Arrington continues to focus on rehabilitating his injured right knee so that he is ready to participate in offseason workouts.
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I am not sure where all of the anti-LaVar 'tude I have been seeing all over the forums is comming from. This guy is going to push our Defense to the #1 ranking next year.
I said this last year when all the talk was how we needed to upgrade our d-line or we would get run on all season. We have excellent run stopping line men. Washington and LaVar crash the edges. Taylor owns the hash marks.

LaVar is not going to be traded and he is not going to be benched for Marshall so we can all just stop with any of that nonsense.

I just can't wait to see LaVar take his rightful place as the most dominating defender in the league. If only he had good coaching and continuity from the get go, we would have seen the rare talent he is.

Hell, my girlfriend (who is not a football fan) who has been forced to watch the Skins every Sunday says "I only like to watch LaVar beacuse he looks like he plays faster than the other guys"
I concur.

We get one of these threads every 2 months or so.

I'll start if off. Lavar has no place on this defense if he cannot do what he is told and play his assignment. Lavar's entire career has been highlighted by the fact that he liks to run around and do what he wants. He said in the beggining of this season that he'll do what he's supposed to. If thats the case, we'll be even better with him. We've seen that we dont need him also.

Lavar is the most gifted LB in the game..but he's not even in the top 5 best LB in the league. When he combines an effort to be the best with his God given talent...the skys the limit!! I hope we see that Lavar next year!

Sometimes people get tired of bashing one and turn to another. Some people just aren't happy unless they are bashing someone. Just their nature, I guess.

The injury was very unfortunate this year. We all know that it is true and it is serious. At one time. there were even people questioning his real status. I sincerely believe that he would have shown this year what he can do. He will be good for us next season, once he plays to his true potential within the system. I really want him to succeed.

Thankyou for posting this topic, it is become outrageous with this Anti-Lavar talk. He is the best athlete that we have outside of ST. I think Lavar will have a break-out year simply because he has studied the game more this year!

Lavar sucks. Trade him!

Ok, just kidding.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:Stop cryin' 'bout the bashin'. Until #56 lives up to his hype and his contract(still waiting...) you will continue to hear people who dislike his lack of production and unreached potential.

Brunell got big money, stunk, and he gets hell for it all the time. Portis got big money, played fairly (relatively speaking), but isn't as highly criticized because he showed up to play.

Truthfully, what separates Lavar from the rest of the team? What makes him so special? What makes him exempt from being criticized? Just a thought.

If we could trade him, I'd definitely want to see him trade. That way, we could focus on developing the formidable group we had this year, the same group that thrived in Williams' scheme, as well as free up some cap space to acquire much needed help.

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DUDE, WHATEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Everyone keep crying about the bashing. It's totally unjustified.

Lack of production? He was BY FAR our best defensive player 2 years ago, 3 years ago, 4 years ago... He plays 3 games this year and now he's expendable because the rest of our LB's came to play. You don't think LaVar comes to play? You have to be kidding me. He'll never get traded FOR cap reasons. Way too much of a hit. If he comes back 85 to 90% he will have a monster year.

Personally, I don't ever want to see him go because he ended Troy Aikman's career. THAT was sweet. Unreached potential my a**.

Comparing Mark Brunell with LaVar is the most ridiculous thing in the world. Mark does indeed stink but LaVar? Again, give me a break.

I question any Redskin fans true love for the team when they start talking about LaVar going elsewhere.

I question any Redskin fans true love for the team when they start talking about LaVar going elsewhere.

So Lavar=Redskins???

Wait...you're not LaVar, are you?

Lavar is staying! We cannot afford to trade him and no other team can make it happen. Boss has already given us these #s!

Bash away, you're entitled! - those of us who want him in a Redskins uniform will see if that potential can be reached in 2005 - if not, then next offseason could be interesting.

I think LA will have a great season, although, I am a little concerned about how long this injury is taking to get healed properly.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

I question any Redskin fans true love for the team when they start talking about LaVar going elsewhere.

So Lavar=Redskins???

Wait...you're not LaVar, are you?

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Yes LaVar=Redskins.

We drafted him. He kills Cowboys. He kills everyone else. He goes to the PB 3 years straight in a Redskins uniform. He misses one year and now he's expendable because Lemar Marshall has a mediocre year. G.A.R.B.A.G.E. Do you really think that Marshall is LaVar's equal? Do you really think that had it been LaVar instead of Marshall the Skins wouldn't have finished 3rd in the league? Is Marshall versitile enough to play DE on passing downs?

In the 3 games LaVar played he had 11 solo's and a sack. In the 14 games Marshall played he had 48 solo's and 1.5 sacks. Do the math...

I love Lavar and want him to do well... But he is way too concerned over who the #1 linebacker in the league is.
He should quit trying to be Ray Lewis or LT and just play the game!
He has matured and I am sure in 2005 he will gel with Greg Williams spectacular D.

SkinsJock wrote:I think LA will have a great season, although, I am a little concerned about how long this injury is taking to get healed properly.

I'm hoping he has a good season, as well. The injury concerns me, but not as much as Lavar's being able to become a more disciplined LB.

EasyMoney wrote:Do you really think that Marshall is LaVar's equal? Do you really think that had it been LaVar instead of Marshall the Skins wouldn't have finished 3rd in the league? Is Marshall versitile enough to play DE on passing downs?

1) No, Lemar doesn't blow as many tackles.

2) Lavar's presence doesn't guarantee we move up in the rankings; he's been a liability in the past, and other teams know that.

3) I'm not sure if Lemar is as versatile, but he's definitely worth a look. He comes a cheaper price tag, and he played well IN THE SYSTEM, which ended up ranked #3 in the league.

USS Redskin wrote:I love Lavar and want him to do well... But he is way too concerned over who the #1 linebacker in the league is.
He should quit trying to be Ray Lewis or LT and just play the game!

My thoughts exactly. Lavar could be a beast if he were to just buckle up his chin strap and play the game as the coaches want him to.

Under Marvin he played pretty well, Under Schoteinheimer he played pretty well and wasn't out of position. Everyone acts like he hasn't done well. 3 probowls is pretty good. Is he LT right now no, is better than Lemar hell yeah. End of story.

Everyone says Gregg Williams system isn't about superstars. Than What about Buffalo Takeo Spikes and London Fletcher, in Tennesse Kieth Bulluck and Javon Kearse, both of those Defenses he had were better than ours this year, why he had superstars. Yes we need Lavar, brining on a superstar would really help this D. You could say the same thing about Taylor lets start Lott because he doesn't make late hits or bit on a play action. This system doesn't need superstars. What is Shawn Springs than, a no.3 pick overall a former pro bowler. You could say what ever you want about our D but we didn't force many turnovers and that is because we really had many playmakers. We did get a lot of 3 and outs because of the great system, but we need another playmaker and Lavar will be that. Don't get me wrong i would keep almost all of our D I would just start Lavar and acquire a pass rushing De.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

I question any Redskin fans true love for the team when they start talking about LaVar going elsewhere.

So Lavar=Redskins???

Wait...you're not LaVar, are you?

Maybe you'd prefer a Randy Moss guy, a malcontent, a distraction. With all of the coaching turn over and crap that has gone on LaVar has always been the good soldier. He could just as easily taken money and gone elswhere. This guy is the heart of the team. Gibbs knows this and this is why he said LaVar is his biggest injury concern. Why mention that when the Defense was ranked 3rd in the leauge? He know this Defense will be truly dominating when LaVar is playing.

Damn!!

The dude plays DE passrusher, Coverage LB and Blitzing LB, whats else does he needs to do? How many LB in the league do just about everything? None, not even Ray Lewis, Derck Brooks, Takeo Spike or whoever you edit up in Madden.

Give the man time in one system and stop keeping him hostage to the BS going on in the Organization, he has no control over.

Five diffrent defensive coordinators just dont sink in, its all Lavars fault.

We seem to have true scouts on this site, with professional game film straight from Steve Sabol himself.

redskincity wrote:The dude plays DE passrusher, Coverage LB and Blitzing LB, whats else does he needs to do? How many LB in the league do just about everything? None, not even Ray Lewis, Derck Brooks, Takeo Spike or whoever you edit up in Madden.

A good observation, which proves my point:

LAVAR = JACK OF ALL TRADES, MASTER OF NONE.

As you say, time in this system should fix this.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

redskincity wrote:The dude plays DE passrusher, Coverage LB and Blitzing LB, whats else does he needs to do? How many LB in the league do just about everything? None, not even Ray Lewis, Derck Brooks, Takeo Spike or whoever you edit up in Madden.

A good observation, which proves my point:

LAVAR = JACK OF ALL TRADES, MASTER OF NONE.

As you say, time in this system should fix this.

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Man, every D player on the Skins should be accountable for their horrible performances under Edwards. Not JUST LaVar. Trotter blew plays, Champ blew plays, Ohalete and Bowen blew plays. Come on man. Get off of this anti-LaVar kick you're on. Edwards isn't somewhat responsible for that? He had one year out of the 4 he's played where he was too aggressive. He was coached by a now LB coach for the Bungles. D Coor. to LB coach... What does that tell you?

Name a master of anything in the sports world.

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

redskincity wrote:The dude plays DE passrusher, Coverage LB and Blitzing LB, whats else does he needs to do? How many LB in the league do just about everything? None, not even Ray Lewis, Derck Brooks, Takeo Spike or whoever you edit up in Madden.

A good observation, which proves my point:

LAVAR = JACK OF ALL TRADES, ATTEMPTING TO MASTER ALL.

As you say, time in this system will fix this.

Well if thats your point why are you leading the charge in the "I hate Lavar crusade?"

EasyMoney musta been countin' his bills when he wrote:Name a master of anything in the sports world.

Peyton Manning, Michael Jordan, Lennox Lewis, Muhammad Ali....should I continue???

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

EasyMoney musta been countin' his bills when he wrote:Name a master of anything in the sports world.

Peyton Manning, Michael Jordan, Lennox Lewis, Muhammad Ali....should I continue???

What?? All had and will point out there shortcomings.

Try watching http://espn.go.com/classic/biography/s/

redskincity wrote:

REDEEMEDSKIN wrote:

redskincity wrote:The dude plays DE passrusher, Coverage LB and Blitzing LB, whats else does he needs to do? How many LB in the league do just about everything? None, not even Ray Lewis, Derck Brooks, Takeo Spike or whoever you edit up in Madden.

A good observation, which proves my point:

LAVAR = JACK OF ALL TRADES, ATTEMPTING TO MASTER ALL.

As you say, time in this system will fix this.

Well if thats your point why are you leading the charge in the "I hate Lavar crusade?"

At least QUOTE me right, junior.

You have jumped to the conclusion that I hate Lavar, and that is not the case.

I do think that he ain't "Mr. Redskin".

I do believe he is overpaid for his production.

I do believe he needs to focus less on his public persona and put equal amounts of effort into his game preparation.

I don't think Lavar IS the Redskins, as some here foolishly believe; the team proved that it could move on with or without him.

I guess it seems like I dislike him because I enter into some threads where Lavar is the subject, for better or for worse.

Also, while I was still alittle green, I interjected my opinions re: Lavar in threads where he wasn't even the subject. I've learned my lesson and only post (try my hardest to) post about Lavar in threads where he is the subject. Of course, I don't revere him as much as the rest of you do.

But, I do want to see him do well...if he ever plays again.

His personal accomplishments will benefit the team, which makes me happy. Likewise, his bonehead mistakes have cost the team in the past, which have mad me very sad.

The upside is that he didn't make as many mistakes last season. Of course, he was on the field for 3 games, was it? I sense a connection.