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Redskins Trying To Re-Sign Antonio Pierce
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:26 am
by Jake
Redskins working on keeping Pierce
By Jody Foldesy
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The Washington Redskins are deep in negotiations on a multi-year contract extension for middle linebacker Antonio Pierce and could complete a deal in coming days, sources familiar with the situation said yesterday.
The sides have exchanged four proposals since coach Joe Gibbs approached Pierce in early November, apparently during the week of the Nov. 7 game against the Detroit Lions. Pierce, 26, is scheduled to be a first-time unrestricted free agent this spring.
Pierce's deal likely would be for four or five years. Further details were unclear, though it appeared Pierce was seeking a signing bonus in the $5 million to $6 million range.
Such a contract would have been unimaginable before the season, when Pierce opted to return to Washington for the one-year tender amount for a restricted free agent ($628,000), rather than sign a multi-year but low-money deal with the Minnesota Vikings.
But Pierce has emerged as one of the premier players on the Redskins' second-ranked defense. He leads the team with 127 tackles and, perhaps more importantly, has thrived making all the defensive calls from the middle linebacker's position.
Pierce didn't comment on contract specifics but did speak frankly about his aspirations for his real NFL payday. Asked whether he wants to return to Washington or test the market, the former undrafted rookie out of Arizona said he simply wants the same type of treatment the Redskins have become famous for giving to free agents from other teams.
"I just want to be treated fairly," Pierce said. "However you want to take that, I just want to be treated fairly."
Asked to elaborate, Pierce said, "Even if I came from another team, and the Redskins need me. Whatever they feel like my value is to this team. I feel like I do anything they ask me to do. I still play special teams. Whatever they ask me to do, I try to do, and I want to be valued at that — rather than the guy that came in as the undrafted free agent. That's four years ago."
Lucky for Pierce, that is precisely how Gibbs plans to develop the team. While owner Dan Snyder's private plane, "Redskins One," became a symbol in recent years of the team's red-carpet treatment for free agents, Gibbs has said repeatedly that he wants to find a group of "core Redskins" and build around them.
The team's focus, it seems, is shifting from Redskins One to Redskin Park.
"I don't know about the past," Gibbs said when told of Pierce's comments. "What we want is the core group people, the ones who have played for us and played hard and been productive, we want to honor that. Those are the people we're saying we want to keep together. ... That's the most important thing we do — pick our players and keep them together."
Gibbs, assistant head coach for defense Gregg Williams and teammates left little doubt that Pierce is in that core.
"He's a Redskin through and through, and he's the kind of person that, as we have the foundation built around here, I think he's a model," Williams said. "We would really like for A.P. to be here for as long as he'd like to be here. I think he knows that. He and I sit down behind closed doors and talk long and hard about his future and the kind of production he's [had]. He's one of my more proud moments in coaching."
Said defensive end Renaldo Wynn: "He's a general. I call him a general because he makes the calls, recognizes formations, does his homework. He prepares to take the field like a champion. He deserves everything good that happens to him this year because he's proved himself."
Pierce nearly signed last spring with the Vikings, who at the time, according to Pierce, were offering him a chance to start pretty much uncontested. But Minnesota was only paying backup money, and Pierce figured he could do better by playing another year in Washington and hitting the market unrestricted in 2005.
His gamble paid off. Although Washington signed veteran linebackers Marcus Washington and Mike Barrow to six-year, $22.5 million and six-year, $15.1 million contracts, respectively, Barrow never played while battling severe knee tendinitis. Pierce stepped in and has had a career year.
Pierce's 6-foot-1, 235-pound frame doesn't make him a natural for middle linebacker, but his intelligence — something former coach Marty Schottenheimer raved about in 2001 — is perhaps even a bigger factor for the thinking man's position.
Whereas former middle linebacker Jeremiah Trotter could blow up a ball carrier or totally bust the play, Pierce is pretty much in the right position all the time. And recently he has started to play with increased confidence and nastiness, which he attributes to feeling as though he has gained his teammates' total trust.
"I know that my teammates know that I can make a play just like them," Pierce said. "I broke a lot of odds, and I'm still out to prove people wrong who think I can't do it for 16 straight games."
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Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:38 am
by DEHog
Cut Barrow or take some of Lavar 6 mil just get it done!!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:53 am
by redskindave
I agree, We need to sign him, He had a very good season, Good job Antonio!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 10:04 am
by NC43Hog
Excellent - I just hope we get it done. Need to get Smoot (a must) and Clark as well.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 11:11 am
by Irn-Bru
Keep him at all costs. This guy has always done whatever he was asked to do, and didn't leave even after being snubbed a starting position by the Armstead/Trotter signings a couple of years back.
If we weren't so loaded at the LB position (and we are), I'd almost say that I want this guy more than Smoot. Smoot is another one that worries me.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 12:27 pm
by DieselFan
Signing him to a long term deal will send the right message to everyone on the team that production will be rewarded handsomely.
Likewise...cutting a few overpaid/underachievers will only fortify that same message. I really like the way Gibbs is going about building this team. In spite of our record...he's doing all the right things.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 2:55 pm
by chicosbailbond
DieselFan wrote:Signing him to a long term deal will send the right message to everyone on the team that production will be rewarded handsomely.
Likewise...cutting a few overpaid/underachievers will only fortify that same message. I really like the way Gibbs is going about building this team. In spite of our record...he's doing all the right things.
great insight...
I feel the same way... Our team is on the right track... Gibbs has done an excellent job restoring honor and accountability to the team...
it is very hard to stop a train on a dime... they are just too heavy.. it takes up to a 1/4 mile sometimes... well the last 10 or so years this train wreck was at full steam...
our record isn't great... but the 2004 season is the 1/4 mile it takes to stop a train wreck....
next year will be a really good year... not superbowl material... but will challenge anyone on any given sunday...
Gibbs is the man!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:34 pm
by Redskin in Canada
DieselFan wrote:Signing him to a long term deal will send the right message to everyone on the team that production will be rewarded handsomely.
Yep! He is a -core- Redskin. He is a priority.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 4:36 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
OMG GIVE THIS MAN WHATEVER HE WANTS!
Cut Barrow and give him the money.
Give him that money we stole from Lavar! LOL. Im just joking.
Cut Chad Mortons worthless hide and give him that money.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:03 pm
by DieselFan
Chris Luva Luva wrote:OMG GIVE THIS MAN WHATEVER HE WANTS!
Cut Barrow and give him the money.
Give him that money we stole from Lavar! LOL. Im just joking.
Cut Chad Mortons worthless hide and give him that money.
Yep...agree that Barrow should be cut...or retire. Morton, to me, has been nothing more than a pretty boy. Cut him. KR and PR that were giving the average to slightly above average production that he was generating are a dime a dozen in the NFL. Trade Taylor Jacobs or Rod Gardner and get something, anything really, for them.
And don't crucify me here...but I don't think Samuels is worth big money, either.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:04 pm
by redskinz4ever
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:33 pm
by Redskins4Life
Cut Barrow.
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:42 pm
by JPFair
There is no doubt at all!! When Joe Gibbs said he's going to be looking for "core Redskins", he was referring to people like Antonio Pierce! Antonio Pierce will be a Redskin next year!!!
Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 7:37 pm
by Chris Luva Luva
DieselFan wrote:Chris Luva Luva wrote:And don't crucify me here...but I don't think Samuels is worth big money, either.
I thought that was worth bumping...
GET EM BOYS!!!!
I agree with you, he hasn't really earned top tackle money. I believe he has had a solid year and may have had a better year depending on who was playing around him. Your fellow teammates can make you look good.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:31 am
by frankcal20
What you guys have been forgetting is if we had Morton and Betts back returning kicks we would be awsome on special teams. Where we've lacked is Blocking. Remember, this is all new. Mortons a good guy. I know his Dad and he has strong work ethic. Would you say cut John Hall? He's been injured this year. Morton came back a week early and got hurt for good. He wanted to help his team. Give him a break. Cut the guys who don't care about the team. Just keep in mind that Matt Bowen will be back too and if we keep Ryan Clark and Shawn Taylor that's 3 top quality safety's. Do we keep all three there? We should cut or deal Mike Barrow. It was just a bonehead move. Our defense is fine we should trade for some offensive linemen. Thats what we need. Maybee we can pick up a gem.
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 7:03 am
by CrazyLikeAFox87
Would cutting Barrow leave us with dead money next year?
Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 11:30 am
by Riggo44
agree, agree, agree. we cannot let this guy go. he's exactly the kind of player you want on your team. you know if he goes somewhere else he'll become a star and we'll be left with has-been barrow.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 12:10 pm
by JPM36
Coach Gibbs knows what he's doing. I have full confidence that whatever he decides to do is going to be the right move. There is no way he is going to let Pierce or Smootie (two guys that have busted their ass at a Pro Bowl level every week for a 4-9 team) get away. I imagine that he will cut Mike Barrow although it's not like it was Barrow's fault that he got hurt. The NFL is a business. Sometimes you have to let people go for the good of the team.
I hope he gets rid of Chad Morton too. He has done nothing but piss me off the last couple years. I think a better return man and a better kicker could really improve our football team.
Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 5:03 pm
by 1niksder
CrazyLikeAFox87 wrote:Would cutting Barrow leave us with dead money next year?
We signed him to a six-year, $13 million deal (including a $2.5 million bonus).
So cutting him wouldn't hurt or help the Cap