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frankcal20 wrote:NT - Chris Neild

Neild is a run-stopping defensive tackle who could contribute in a defensive line rotation at the next level. He is stout with a strong lower half and is very difficult to move out of running lanes. He also has very active hands to keep blockers from getting inside and flashes the lateral range to make plays outside of the tackle box. However, he lacks explosion off the line and is very raw as a pass rusher. Neild possesses natural leverage and is an asset against the run and he will likely be a middle round pick.


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wow...no QB draft for us. There's goes all those speculations.
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This is not meant as a complaint but I expected t see more offensive linemen in our draft. I hope Shanahan has plans to improve our o-line.
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aswas71788 wrote:This is not meant as a complaint but I expected t see more offensive linemen in our draft. I hope Shanahan has plans to improve our o-line.


It would have been nice, but the cards didn't fall that way
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So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.
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skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


If that's the case, we had a VERY successful draft IMO based on previous years.
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frankcal20 wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


If that's the case, we had a VERY successful draft IMO based on previous years.


I would agree with you whole heartedy if our team wasn't so dreadful, but even so, I still have to agree.
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There may not be any starters in 2011 because the legal issue will drag on and so will the lock-out.

Assume that there is a last minute deal and players are allowed to have contact with their teams in August. Only the day one draft picks will have had access to the so-called play book to study. All the others won't know anything. Would the team play and keep people who may take a month into the season just to learn the basics or field last year's starters who know the plays? Every team in the league will have to decide very quickly and unfortunately may make bad choices of who to keep and cut by being pressured to win.
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SprintRightOption wrote:There may not be any starters in 2011 because the legal issue will drag on and so will the lock-out.

Assume that there is a last minute deal and players are allowed to have contact with their teams in August. Only the day one draft picks will have had access to the so-called play book to study. All the others won't know anything. Would the team play and keep people who may take a month into the season just to learn the basics or field last year's starters who know the plays? Every team in the league will have to decide very quickly and unfortunately may make bad choices of who to keep and cut by being pressured to win.
Wouldn't the players who received the playbooks the other day be able to call up the draftees and share them? The coaches would not be involved. These kids should show up to the next OTA that are coordinated by the players - some vets may need to buy their plane tix - but I think they could be somewhat up to speed by the time the lockout ends.
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stilll, the lock out makes it a "fair and even" playing field for ALL team....same for everyone.
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frankcal20 wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


If that's the case, we had a VERY successful draft IMO based on previous years.


That would be a good draft for any team
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skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


I assume you mean 4 eventual starters because no way do 4 of them start on opening day
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aswas71788 wrote:This is not meant as a complaint but I expected t see more offensive linemen in our draft. I hope Shanahan has plans to improve our o-line.


agreed. i was sort of expecting/hoping just about every single pick on day 3 would've been o-line.
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aswas71788 wrote:This is not meant as a complaint but I expected t see more offensive linemen in our draft. I hope Shanahan has plans to improve our o-line.


agreed. i was sort of expecting/hoping just about every single pick on day 3 would've been o-line.


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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


I assume you mean 4 eventual starters because no way do 4 of them start on opening day

If you'd said that it is unlikely that as many as 4 of them will be opening day starters, I'd agree. But I actually don't think it's impossible.

Kerrigan and Jenkins should be starters straight away. Hankerson is a good bet, especially if Moss moves on. And either Helu or Royster could possibly displace Torrain as the presumed starter. If I had to bet right now, I'd say that 2 of them will be starters on opening day, but it really could be 4.
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


I assume you mean 4 eventual starters because no way do 4 of them start on opening day

If you'd said that it is unlikely that as many as 4 of them will be opening day starters, I'd agree. But I actually don't think it's impossible.

Kerrigan and Jenkins should be starters straight away. Hankerson is a good bet, especially if Moss moves on. And either Helu or Royster could possibly displace Torrain as the presumed starter. If I had to bet right now, I'd say that 2 of them will be starters on opening day, but it really could be 4.


I still think it's very remote. I agree Kerrigan and Jenkins are both strong possibilities, but the odds of any one of the rest starting it's pretty remote and two remote squared. Though I'd agree 4 may get playing time pretty quickly.

The ace up my sleeve is that even if there is a season there won't be a camp or probably a pre-season and the odds of any of them even #1 and #2 actually starting is probably pretty close to zippo. But even in a normal year it's a stretch. Anyway, you did just argue for unlikely and not impossible.
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


I assume you mean 4 eventual starters because no way do 4 of them start on opening day

If you'd said that it is unlikely that as many as 4 of them will be opening day starters, I'd agree. But I actually don't think it's impossible.

Kerrigan and Jenkins should be starters straight away. Hankerson is a good bet, especially if Moss moves on. And either Helu or Royster could possibly displace Torrain as the presumed starter. If I had to bet right now, I'd say that 2 of them will be starters on opening day, but it really could be 4.


I think, at most, you have one, maybe two of these guys starting on Day 1. Kerrigan is the only draftee that I expect to start early on, especially with the uncertainty of the lockout.
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


I assume you mean 4 eventual starters because no way do 4 of them start on opening day

If you'd said that it is unlikely that as many as 4 of them will be opening day starters, I'd agree. But I actually don't think it's impossible.

Kerrigan and Jenkins should be starters straight away. Hankerson is a good bet, especially if Moss moves on. And either Helu or Royster could possibly displace Torrain as the presumed starter. If I had to bet right now, I'd say that 2 of them will be starters on opening day, but it really could be 4.


I think, at most, you have one, maybe two of these guys starting on Day 1. Kerrigan is the only draftee that I expect to start early on, especially with the uncertainty of the lockout.


We dont have a #1 or #2 wr on our roster, so one of the wrs drafted will start, maybe two of them. We don't have a DE or NT that can start, so there is a chance there for two starters. The rb may start, when Torain goes down from a hangnail.
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skinsfan#33 wrote:
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


I assume you mean 4 eventual starters because no way do 4 of them start on opening day

If you'd said that it is unlikely that as many as 4 of them will be opening day starters, I'd agree. But I actually don't think it's impossible.

Kerrigan and Jenkins should be starters straight away. Hankerson is a good bet, especially if Moss moves on. And either Helu or Royster could possibly displace Torrain as the presumed starter. If I had to bet right now, I'd say that 2 of them will be starters on opening day, but it really could be 4.


I think, at most, you have one, maybe two of these guys starting on Day 1. Kerrigan is the only draftee that I expect to start early on, especially with the uncertainty of the lockout.


We dont have a #1 or #2 wr on our roster, so one of the wrs drafted will start, maybe two of them. We don't have a DE or NT that can start, so there is a chance there for two starters. The rb may start, when Torain goes down from a hangnail.


Jenkins has to get in better shape before he can start. Hankerson could start, but I expect us to re-sign Moss. One of the rb's may start, but expecting any of the late rounders to start is insanity. When was the last time you remember a non first or second rounder starting week 1? It's a HUGE transition to go from college to the NFL.
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skinsfan#33 wrote:We dont have a #1 or #2 wr on our roster, so one of the wrs drafted will start, maybe two of them. We don't have a DE or NT that can start, so there is a chance there for two starters. The rb may start, when Torain goes down from a hangnail.


You do realize there will at some point be a free agency before there is a season, no?
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:We dont have a #1 or #2 wr on our roster, so one of the wrs drafted will start, maybe two of them. We don't have a DE or NT that can start, so there is a chance there for two starters. The rb may start, when Torain goes down from a hangnail.


You do realize there will at some point be a free agency before there is a season, no?

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CanesSkins26 wrote:
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skinsfan#33 wrote:So How many starters did we get?

I say maybe 4 and only 6 make the active roster.


I assume you mean 4 eventual starters because no way do 4 of them start on opening day

If you'd said that it is unlikely that as many as 4 of them will be opening day starters, I'd agree. But I actually don't think it's impossible.

Kerrigan and Jenkins should be starters straight away. Hankerson is a good bet, especially if Moss moves on. And either Helu or Royster could possibly displace Torrain as the presumed starter. If I had to bet right now, I'd say that 2 of them will be starters on opening day, but it really could be 4.


I think, at most, you have one, maybe two of these guys starting on Day 1. Kerrigan is the only draftee that I expect to start early on, especially with the uncertainty of the lockout.


We dont have a #1 or #2 wr on our roster, so one of the wrs drafted will start, maybe two of them. We don't have a DE or NT that can start, so there is a chance there for two starters. The rb may start, when Torain goes down from a hangnail.


Jenkins has to get in better shape before he can start. Hankerson could start, but I expect us to re-sign Moss. One of the rb's may start, but expecting any of the late rounders to start is insanity. When was the last time you remember a non first or second rounder starting week 1? It's a HUGE transition to go from college to the NFL.


I never said week 1, but I do expect at least four of these guys to end up being starters at some point in the season. Heck Sean Taylor and Chris Cooley weren't week 1 starters their rookie seasons, but I would say the Skins got starters with those picks.

Horton was a starters his rookie season, but he didn't start week 1.

I don't think with as talent deprived as this team is that it is unrealistic to expect 1/3 of their rookies to start during the season and it isn't crazy to think half won't start.

I almost guarantee Hankerson and Jenkins will start this year and Helu is a good bet to start some games too.

I think Moss should be back, but I don't think he will be back.
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skinsfan#33 wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:We dont have a #1 or #2 wr on our roster, so one of the wrs drafted will start, maybe two of them. We don't have a DE or NT that can start, so there is a chance there for two starters. The rb may start, when Torain goes down from a hangnail.


You do realize there will at some point be a free agency before there is a season, no?

Yes, yes I do.


Cool Now, do you understand the implication of that regarding your post?
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KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:
KazooSkinsFan wrote:
skinsfan#33 wrote:We dont have a #1 or #2 wr on our roster, so one of the wrs drafted will start, maybe two of them. We don't have a DE or NT that can start, so there is a chance there for two starters. The rb may start, when Torain goes down from a hangnail.


You do realize there will at some point be a free agency before there is a season, no?

Yes, yes I do.


Cool Now, do you understand the implication of that regarding your post?

Yes, yes I do.

For some reason I don't think we will sign any top notch fa wr and I don't even think Moss will be back.
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