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as soon as it becomes clear that Snyder wants to change the losing culture and will stop interfering with whomever is in charge, there will certainly be people wanting to be a part of the turnaround of this dysfunctional messDEHog wrote:Well you're definitely not getting any good coordinators with a HC who's working on essentially the last year of his contract (owners and GM never let coaches go into the last year of their contract). I've been hard on leadership concerning McVay, but I heard JP Finley say McVay told him he would not have taken the Skins HC job had they fired Gruden and offered it to him, so not much else the Skins could have done outside throw a bucket of money at him. I do hold out hope that Snyder will see the turnaround in places like Cleveland and realize he's needs a real GM, I think that's the only way you get a legit coach here. There'll always be coaches who will take the job, there's only 32 of them and they pay well!
welch wrote:Post reports that Snyder has decided (according to "sources close to" etc):
- Keep Gruden
- Keep Allen
- Upgrade the coaches, but could not find a defensive coordinator, so he will keep Greg Manusky.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2 ... b8878c2ca5
A juicy quote:Despite speaking to several former head coaches who were once top defensive coordinators in the NFL, the Redskins plan on keeping defensive coordinator Greg Manusky.
This ends a strange two-week period in which the team was linked to meetings with Gregg Williams, Todd Bowles and Steve Wilks — all of whom had been fired as head coaches at season’s end. Normally, when teams speak with potential coordinators, they have an opening. But Washington talked to all three without letting go of Manusky, who just completed his second season as the Redskins' defensive coordinator.
A person with knowledge of Washington’s offseason plans said Coach Jay Gruden was looking for “different perspectives” in the conversations with outside coaches.
Same old Snyder.Improving the coaching staff is believed to be a mandate of team owner Daniel Snyder. People familiar with the Redskins’ postseason planning said Snyder considered firing Gruden after the team failed to make the playoffs for the fourth time in Gruden’s five years as head coach. Ultimately, Snyder decided to keep Gruden, who has two years remaining on a contract extension signed in the spring of 2017. In retaining Gruden and expanding the role of team president Bruce Allen, Snyder is said to have hoped he could make upgrades on the coaching staff. It is unclear what those upgrades will be, particularly with Manusky remaining as defensive coordinator.
How does something like that ever "become clear"? Seems like an impossible bar. There's no way anyone can know that before coming here and seeing it for themselves. I'll be honest when Shanahan was hired, I completely bought in that Snyder was going to be hands off and Shanny was running the show. We all find out three years later that wasn't the case at all.SkinsJock wrote:as soon as it becomes clear that Snyder wants to change the losing culture and will stop interfering with whomever is in charge, there will certainly be people wanting to be a part of the turnaround of this dysfunctional mess
I agree in principle but there is no Andrew Luck in this draft. If there was one the Redskins draft pick isn't high enough to get him. They insist on being too good to get the picks they need and too bad to go anywhere. Do you know what kind of roster they could have built by now if they had decided to tank for a few years after the RGIII debacle? This team can't do anything right. Nothing. Not a single *f$ck* thing. And it all comes down to the inept general manager and the equally inept owner. Neither of those two imbeciles should be allowed anywhere near an NFL front office. Even when they accidentally do something right they find a way to *f$ck* it up.riggofan wrote:I don't personally like to play the card that its never going to get better as long as Snyder is here. Draft an Andrew Luck in the first round, and there will be coaches who will see the opportunity to win and want to be involved.
Yeah I don't disagree, and I'm not saying its achievable this year. Even in a year where a franchise QB is in reach, they're more than capable of f'ing it up.Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:I agree in principle but there is no Andrew Luck in this draft. If there was one the Redskins draft pick isn't high enough to get him. They insist on being too good to get the picks they need and too bad to go anywhere. Do you know what kind of roster they could have built by now if they had decided to tank for a few years after the RGIII debacle? This team can't do anything right. Nothing. Not a single *f$ck* thing. And it all comes down to the inept general manager and the equally inept owner. Neither of those two imbeciles should be allowed anywhere near an NFL front office. Even when they accidentally do something right they find a way to *f$ck* it up.
Close to what?riggofan wrote:Man, did anybody bother to listen to Brucifer on the radio yesterday? He apparently believes the team is "close". lol.
Man I feel bad for him! A doctor said that the hardware on there mean he gets to keep his leg...but doubts he'll ever play again!Yea, I think that ship has sailed. The only question is if he will admit he's done and retire or milk the team for money he can't possibly earn.DEHog wrote:Or see Alex at the Wizards game
From what I understand the money is his...Skins hopefully had a bit of insurance on him?Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Yea, I think that ship has sailed. The only question is if he will admit he's done and retire or milk the team for money he can't possibly earn.DEHog wrote:Or see Alex at the Wizards game
His contract was 100% guaranteed for injury but I think it works out differently for cap purposes if he's not on the active roster.DEHog wrote:From what I understand the money is his...Skins hopefully had a bit of insurance on him?Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Yea, I think that ship has sailed. The only question is if he will admit he's done and retire or milk the team for money he can't possibly earn.DEHog wrote:Or see Alex at the Wizards game
SIMPLE - hire a President and a GM and let it be known these people will be putting together a FO and coaching staffriggofan wrote:How does something like that ever "become clear"? Seems like an impossible bar. There's no way anyone can know that before coming here and seeing it for themselves.
I mean does anyone really think this franchise can get better with these 2 bozos running thingsFollowing the third straight, third-place finish in the NFC East, many fans were hoping that this offseason would be the one where the Redskins fired Allen. Unfortunately, that was not the case. In fact, he actually gained some power recently.
Earlier this month, The Washington Post reported that Allen will now have "total control over the team's football and business operations." This development caused the #FireBruceAllen movement to pick up steam, and now it's completely unavoidable when navigating through social media.
On Tuesday, reporters caught up with Allen as he watched draft prospects practice at the Reese's Senior Bowl, and he was tossed a few questions about his job security and more specifically, the #FireBruceAllen hashtag.
"Well, see our standings, we're 7-9, we went through some heartbreaking injuries for the players, if we can keep our team together, I think (the fans) saw a good football team," said Allen. "I know where we were through 10 games and we have to learn to finish the season. It's no different than the previous year, not winning the last game of the season the last couple of years, it's heart-wrenching to everyone, the passion of our fans is fantastic, they want us to win, we hear from them, I know exactly what they want, they want to win football games and that is our job, trying to find a way to win these football games."
We know this isn't going to happen. Nothing is "simple" if the owner isn't willing to make changes.SkinsJock wrote:MAYBE just hire a President and GM and let them keep the same people in the FO and on the coaching staff for this season ...
be interesting to see who is still here in February 2020 ...
after all ... hindsight is 20/20
The cap hit is the same whether he's on the team or not....they could cut him and take the entire hit this year!!Burgundy&GoldForever wrote: His contract was 100% guaranteed for injury but I think it works out differently for cap purposes if he's not on the active roster.
What is Smith guaranteed?
Alex Smith is guaranteed $71 million in his contract, which is essentially the first 3½ years. This is divided into a base salary, paid each year, and a $27 million signing bonus, which was received the day he signed his contract. The Redskins hold options on Smith for five years, through the 2022 season.
How does the injury impact the salary cap?
It doesn't. Even if Smith doesn't play a down in 2019, his full salary is still paid and counted against the salary cap, a cap hit of $20.4 million, per Spotrac. The same goes for 2020, with a hit of $21.4 million.
How big a deal is that?
This year's salary cap is $177.2 million, and a modest increase is expected next year, meaning Smith's salary will represent about 11 percent of the team's salary cap.
For added perspective, Smith counts $41 million against the cap in the next two seasons. The Redskins were penalized $36 million over two seasons for their actions during the pre-lockout season, and Mike Shanahan complained about its effect on the team to his very last days.
What if Smith suffers a career-ending injury and retires?
He wouldn't. The point of guaranteed contracts, and the reason the players' union fights so hard to get them, is so players can still be taken care of in the event of an injury. To walk away from the guaranteed money would be strongly discouraged by the union, and fiscally reckless by Smith.
So is there any way the Redskins could get out of paying the bill?
Smith's contract, like all NFL contracts, stipulates that if injured, he must work to return to playing condition. If, somehow, Smith decided he would rather walk away from the money then continue to rehab and do physical therapy, the Redskins could reclaim the cap space and Smith would have to repay a portion of his signing bonus.
Will that happen?
Almost certainly not.
What if the Redskins cut him?
Even if a player is cut, his guaranteed money remains on the salary cap, so there would be no cap advantage to that move.
The one thing it would allow the Redskins to do is take the entire cap hit ($42 million) at once, instead of spreading it out over three years. That would be crippling to the 2019 squad, but that would also be the point.
With that move, the Redskins would publicly announce their intentions to tank the season to be in a better position in 2020. Washington could then sign players like Brandon Scherff to front-loaded extensions, absorbing a bigger cap hit in 2019.
Any downsides to that?
So many. First, ticket sales are already sluggish. Imagine how they'd be for a team that has already conceded the season. Second, it would be nearly impossible to get free agents with any talent into the building, and would be alienating to the veterans on the roster, like Trent Williams, who want to compete for championships. Finally, if Smith were able to recover, he would be a free agent at that point instead of remaining under contract.
This is what I was thinking about but I think I had it backwards in my head. I was thinking they could spread the cap hit out over more years. I'm not sure why I was thinking that. Probably not enough coffee.DEHog wrote:The one thing it would allow the Redskins to do is take the entire cap hit ($42 million) at once, instead of spreading it out over three years. That would be crippling to the 2019 squad, but that would also be the point.
With that move, the Redskins would publicly announce their intentions to tank the season to be in a better position in 2020. Washington could then sign players like Brandon Scherff to front-loaded extensions, absorbing a bigger cap hit in 2019.
It's a interesting thought?? Would you just concede this year...would set them up nicely for 2020...Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:This is what I was thinking about but I think I had it backwards in my head. I was thinking they could spread the cap hit out over more years. I'm not sure why I was thinking that. Probably not enough coffee.DEHog wrote:The one thing it would allow the Redskins to do is take the entire cap hit ($42 million) at once, instead of spreading it out over three years. That would be crippling to the 2019 squad, but that would also be the point.
With that move, the Redskins would publicly announce their intentions to tank the season to be in a better position in 2020. Washington could then sign players like Brandon Scherff to front-loaded extensions, absorbing a bigger cap hit in 2019.
I would. The best QB prospects are coming out next year.DEHog wrote:It's a interesting thought?? Would you just concede this year...would set them up nicely for 2020...Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:This is what I was thinking about but I think I had it backwards in my head. I was thinking they could spread the cap hit out over more years. I'm not sure why I was thinking that. Probably not enough coffee.DEHog wrote:The one thing it would allow the Redskins to do is take the entire cap hit ($42 million) at once, instead of spreading it out over three years. That would be crippling to the 2019 squad, but that would also be the point.
With that move, the Redskins would publicly announce their intentions to tank the season to be in a better position in 2020. Washington could then sign players like Brandon Scherff to front-loaded extensions, absorbing a bigger cap hit in 2019.