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I'm foolishly optimistic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3E0tyrC1q_k

Every game will be tough, but some good defensive play will give the Redskins a chance.

going into the season, looking at the first 8 games - I thought we'd be 3-5 or maybe 4-4 - getting to 5-3 with a QB that was not playing even close to what was expected is a PLUS - we may still end up with 6 or 7 wins as many predicted but we should end up at 7 or 8 wins because that is who we are with this FO and this HC

I'm still optimistic that we could end up in the playoffs this season, but for the long term, we will continue to be a 7 or 8 win franchise if we keep the same people in charge of the FO and the same HC

It's really simple - until we make changes to how we operate AND how we play, we should not expect to get any better

last week we lost to a 3 win team and this week many here are predicting we're more than likely losing to another 3 win team mostly because of the offenses - when you're a 5 win team against a 3 win team you would think that you would be more competitive - this is not good

I thought we should win both of these games because of our defense - I guess that's not good reasoning these days

next week we'll get to play a team with a good defense and a not so good offense - maybe that's what we need

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Its so funny how polar opposites we are in thought and expectations... Every year I predict 19-0... Every year your "optimistic" for 7 or so wins. Then in real life I legit expect to lose each and every week. Worst team ever looking for first win? We got you. Need to break a record? Hold my beer... Playoffs? Nah fam you first... But I maintain hope and want to see incremental improvements. From trash to now is hard to do fast- yet you say how bad we are owned and project mediocrity, then expect excellence. Like you set your self up for heart break every week we lose- Cle can beat us... NYG probably will next time.. Being such an advocate for change, why cant you change? DS will sell when we are grey and old... The 80's are gone... Enjoy what you can- lest more fans demand change and we end up with jhabba the hut chip kelley next year!!!

Weed is legal in CO brother, move on down!

thank you for clarifying things ...

I'm just a fan - I don't have a lot of faith in things getting better here with Dan and Bruce as the decision makers - I don't want to see this franchise continue to be mediocre (or, as you say "project mediocrity") but I don't see how we can get any better while we continue to manage this franchise the same way - wanting to see "incremental improvement" is like thinking that things will change just because you really want it to - it's not happening - these guys don't have a clue about managing an NFL franchise - look at the record for crying out loud

I'm not advocating change - I just don't see how we get better if we don't change what we've been doing - there's a HUGE difference

it's really not a big deal - we're about to see what happens when you just hope things will get 'incrementally' better

I will follow your suggestion and just enjoy things as they unfold here

Your signature reflect almost 90% of what you post... I just dont see what the point is in typing it over and over.

Dan isnt selling.

Who do you want us to persue to coach next year?

We've seen the merry go round of coaches- it doesnt improve things.

We ARE incrementally improving... First time the skins beat Dak fkn Prescott!!
-counting when we had djak garçon and kurt grossman


Your "we need change" falls on deaf ears when we ARE changing... Every year for the better

SkinsJock wrote:last week we lost to a 3 win team and this week many here are predicting we're more than likely losing to another 3 win team mostly because of the offenses - when you're a 5 win team against a 3 win team you would think that you would be more competitive - this is not good

I thought we should win both of these games because of our defense - I guess that's not good reasoning these days

next week we'll get to play a team with a good defense and a not so good offense - maybe that's what we need

I think this is a glaring post reflective of your lack of football knowledge.. No disrespect intended but its blatantly flawed. A teams record has nothing to do with how good they can be. To your point "we are lucky to be 5 and 3" as are the vikings? More talent there ya? And got bamboozled by the lowly Bills!!
What were the records of NE heading into the game vs KC? Did it matter?

We will see how we handle Fitzmagic... A game we can lose and records not mattering not a game we "should' do anyrhing.
Just like Pitt being a different team after a week 1 tie to Cleveland.. All teams evolve. Basic. Rudimentary. Elementary. Just like the Vegas odds not being inductive of the actual winner each week- any given sunday man... But you know this... And each loss we know its BA and JG to blame.


WE GET IT

I copied this from another thread as I feel it is more pertinent to this thread ...

SkinsJock wrote: there's no way of knowing what Snyder is thinking or planning - unfortunately, I think that he likes to surround himself with "yes men" and he heeds their input - I'm not sure many of those guys (if any) have any real clue about the NFL - nobody can predict what Snyder will do - he has made many mistakes and doesn't seem to learn much from them

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Are you paying any attention to anything other than the games? Brian Lafemina is not a "yes" man by any stretch of the imagination. He's the reason the team finally admitted it no longer has a season ticket waiting list. He's the reason individual game tickets are available. He's the reason Bruce Allen has no involvement in operations. The team also hired Jake Bye, a real marketing strategist, instead of relying on the brand selling because it's the Redskins. Snyder is changing how he conducts business.

That tells us he's thinking what he has been doing isn't working.

thank you for updating me - you're right - I have not been keeping up to speed with what is going on with the franchise

this sounds promising - be interesting to see if this translates to a more consistent product on the field - as we all know there have been some good young players added recently - it will be interesting to see how the franchise handles what is happening on the field after going 5-3 to open the season when many were thinking the team might only win 2 or 3 of those games

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Your signature reflect almost 90% of what you post... I just dont see what the point is in typing it over and over.

Well, its one way to get to 18,000 posts.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Are you paying any attention to anything other than the games? Brian Lafemina is not a "yes" man by any stretch of the imagination. He's the reason the team finally admitted it no longer has a season ticket waiting list. He's the reason individual game tickets are available. He's the reason Bruce Allen has no involvement in operations. The team also hired Jake Bye, a real marketing strategist, instead of relying on the brand selling because it's the Redskins. Snyder is changing how he conducts business.

Been hearing Lafemina's name a lot this season. Next guy up and Bruce on his way to Vegas?

riggofan wrote:

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Are you paying any attention to anything other than the games? Brian Lafemina is not a "yes" man by any stretch of the imagination. He's the reason the team finally admitted it no longer has a season ticket waiting list. He's the reason individual game tickets are available. He's the reason Bruce Allen has no involvement in operations. The team also hired Jake Bye, a real marketing strategist, instead of relying on the brand selling because it's the Redskins. Snyder is changing how he conducts business.

Been hearing Lafemina's name a lot this season. Next guy up and Bruce on his way to Vegas?

I still think Snyder is going to try to put Bruce Allen in charge of "stadium development" as in getting a new stadium in D.C., which, of course Allen can't do unless the team changes the name. It's still federal land and nothing has changed in that regard since the Kennedy administration. The last time it was integration. This time it's the team name. He can get a stadium in the "burbs" but that's going to go against the advice of his new COO, Lafemina, and his new CMO, Bye. They are going to recommend he put the stadium in D.C., even if it means changing the team name. Snyder may not like that but given the state of the fan base he may go along with it. What does he have to lose at this point? Fans who aren't showing up to home games when they're practically giving the tickets away?

riggofan wrote:

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Your signature reflect almost 90% of what you post... I just don't see what the point is in typing it over and over

Well, its one way to get to 18,000 posts.

and the pot calls the kettle black - way to go guys ...

GO SKINS

SkinsJock wrote:and the pot calls the kettle black - way to go guys ...

GO SKINS

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:I still think Snyder is going to try to put Bruce Allen in charge of "stadium development" as in getting a new stadium in D.C., which, of course Allen can't do unless the team changes the name. It's still federal land and nothing has changed in that regard since the Kennedy administration. The last time it was integration. This time it's the team name. He can get a stadium in the "burbs" but that's going to go against the advice of his new COO, Lafemina, and his new CMO, Bye. They are going to recommend he put the stadium in D.C., even if it means changing the team name. Snyder may not like that but given the state of the fan base he may go along with it. What does he have to lose at this point? Fans who aren't showing up to home games when they're practically giving the tickets away?

Huh. Interesting. I had not heard anything about the name being related to the stadium/land.

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Dan isnt selling.

Who do you want us to persue to coach next year?

We've seen the merry go round of coaches - it doesnt improve things.

We ARE incrementally improving ... First time the skins beat Dak fkn Prescott!! - counting when we had djak garçon and kurt grossman

Your "we need change" falls on deaf ears when we ARE changing... Every year for the better

HA! what a joke of a post
We all know Snyder isn't selling the team and many of us think that the franchise can get better even with him in place

I don't want to get a new HC - I think that Jay will lose his job - 4, 9, 8, 7 & 5 wins - currently 33-38 will do that
starting off 5-2 was good - if we don't do well this season he's gone for sure, otherwise, it's not for long

I agree with "incremental improvement" - like watching a glacier ...
I see some better players and some better positional coaching - overall, not much improvement

HUGE game for the Redskins - what an awesome job the coaching staff did today

to limit this top ranked offense to 3 points after they gained almost 500 yards is just stunning

the time of possession in the first half was 20 mins - 10 and we had 6 points and they only got 3 - unbelievable effort

CONGRATULATIONS to the coaches and the players





btw - that Falcons team that trashed us last week was just beaten by the Cleveland Browns - congratulations to Gregg Williams

DE-fense.

No, do not fire Gruden. Sacrifice Bruce Allen, instead. Snyder will say, "It's not MY fault. I gave him everything."

(Will remind me of "We gave him an unlimited budget, and he over-spent it".)

(And yes, SJ, congrats to Gregg W and the Browns.)

Big win for us...

Clevland has more talent then any team in the league... How many top 10 draft choices on both sides of the ball?? Lol

They also tied Pitt... Who look to be one of the best complete teams in the league.
The this team beat that team, so that team is better then this team logic- is illogical.

don't try and make something out of nothing - great win for the Browns against a good Falcons team ...

it doesn't matter how good or great the players are OR how much of the roster is made up of good or great players - if they don't pay well together they will not win many games

BOT - great win today for the Redskins and a great effort from both players and coaches - amazing how well the O line played with guys that are not great stars or 1st round draft picks

Huge game by our D.

That punch-fumble late in the 3rd when TB was inside our 30 was the play of the game.

Can't get too cocky, though. Few teams will make as many errors as the Bucs did today.

I doubt that anyone's feeling too cocky - we are very fortunate and the guys on the sidelines did a great job today

HUGE lift for this franchise - can you imagine how great it would be if the pukes found a way to beat the eagles tonight

I seldom root for ttid... But when i do i root for a tie! Next best thing is we are 2 games ahead and control our own destiny. With 3 starters missing on the front i give props to to Callahan for making it work just enough. If we can buil on Harris and JDoc... We will be that much better when Tdub and Crowder return. I still like this D!!! Even Norman pulled in an acrobatic catch!! DJ has these guys balling!!

SkinsJock wrote:HUGE game for the Redskins - what an awesome job the coaching staff did today

Right on, man. I know you're not in the area, but it was crazy to listen to the locals call in to the radio stations this morning complaining about coaching, Alex Smith not throwing the ball downfield. lol. It wasn't pretty AT ALL yesterday, but the coaches and players did what they needed to win. That's all that matters right now.

I didn't realize TB had the number 3 offense this year btw. After watching them move the ball the first half, I was really expecting a big 4th quarter comeback from them.

SkinsJock wrote:btw - that Falcons team that trashed us last week was just beaten by the Cleveland Browns - congratulations to Gregg Williams

Yeah, the Titans STOMPED the Patriots yesterday, and I'm pretty sure most people expected the Eagles to beat the Cowboys last night. Just goes to show you, there's no such thing as "we're supposed to win this game".

welch wrote:DE-fense.

They were unbelievable yesterday. That Ryan Anderson punch fumble was one of the best plays this season. LOVED IT.

SkinsJock wrote:I doubt that anyone's feeling too cocky - we are very fortunate and the guys on the sidelines did a great job today

Its so funny, man. We're 6-3 but I'm finding it impossible to get really excited about this team. Its not like that year where RG3 was exploding and it seemed like we really had something going. I honestly don't know how they're getting it done this year.