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SkinsJock wrote:I don't want any player on this team that makes choices that hurt himself, his teammates and the team

If Trent did that then he should be replaced - we need players that can be relied on to be there for each other

see ya

StorminMormon86 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I don't want any player on this team that makes choices that hurt himself, his teammates and the team. If Trent did make bad choices multiple times then he should be replaced

This is crazy. Revoke his captain status? Sure. Get rid of him? Absolute insanity.

SkinsJock wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I don't want any player on this team that makes choices that hurt himself, his teammates and the team. If Trent did make bad choices multiple times then he should be replaced

This is crazy. Revoke his captain status? Sure. Get rid of him? Absolute insanity.

so you think it's "absolute insanity" to let a player go that continues to make bad decisions?

Deadskins wrote:When he's the best LT in the game? Yeah, pretty much.
Look at it this way, two weeks ago it looked like he might be injured and miss the rest of the season. That could actually happen at any time, and be a worse hit. Let it go, and move on.

SkinsJock wrote:you think it's better to have the best LT in the NFL on the roster when you know he's going to get suspended again

Deadskins wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:you think it's better to have the best LT in the NFL on the roster when you know he's going to get suspended again

Point is, we don't know that.

SkinsJock wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I don't want any player on this team that makes choices that hurt himself, his teammates and the team. If Trent did make bad choices multiple times then he should be replaced

This is crazy. Revoke his captain status? Sure. Get rid of him? Absolute insanity.

so you think it's "absolute insanity" to let a player go that continues to make bad decisions?

you may not agree with this but it's certainly not "absolute insanity" to not want players like this on our team

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:It's marijuana. It's legal in some places. It should be legal everywhere. I don't even care for it but let's be serious. Alcohol kills hundreds of thousands of people every year. Marijuana kills ZERO.

SkinsJock wrote:so you think it's "absolute insanity" to let a player go that continues to make bad decisions?

SkinsJock wrote:at least you're consistent - another over stated post

Deadskins wrote:

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:It's marijuana. It's legal in some places. It should be legal everywhere. I don't even care for it but let's be serious. Alcohol kills hundreds of thousands of people every year. Marijuana kills ZERO.

Hence my "hypocrisy" quote of SJ. Marijuana prohibition began as a way to persecute immigrants from south of the border. It has no business being classified as a Schedule 1 narcotic.
That said, it's still Trent's fault, for not obeying the rules, that he has been suspended. It doesn't matter how stupid or misguided the rule.

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:It's marijuana. It's legal in some places. It should be legal everywhere. I don't even care for it but let's be serious. Alcohol kills hundreds of thousands of people every year. Marijuana kills ZERO.

Hence my "hypocrisy" quote of SJ. Marijuana prohibition began as a way to persecute immigrants from south of the border. It has no business being classified as a Schedule 1 narcotic.
That said, it's still Trent's fault, for not obeying the rules, that he has been suspended. It doesn't matter how stupid or misguided the rule.

Absolutely. Not trying to excuse Trent being a dumb ass. Just pointing out how screwed up the league's priorities actually are.

SkinsJock wrote:"abusing" alcohol and marijuana are not allowed by the NFL

SkinsJock wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Hence my "hypocrisy" quote of SJ. Marijuana prohibition began as a way to persecute immigrants from south of the border. It has no business being classified as a Schedule 1 narcotic. That said, it's still Trent's fault, for not obeying the rules, that he has been suspended. It doesn't matter how stupid or misguided the rule.

Where is the "hypocrisy"?
What does "marijuana prohibition" OR whether marijuana should be legalized or not have to do with Trent Williams signing a contract that includes an agreement to abide by the NFL rules (as per the CBA)?

implying that prohibiting marijuana is a stupid rule is BS and has nothing to do with this - I agree that marijuana should not be classified as a schedule 1 narcotic but at the same time if the NFL wants to say that chewing gum is not allowed and all of the players agree with that, then the players have to understand that if they chew gum, they are breaking a rule - players are not allowed to choose which rules are good or bad - they agreed to play under certain rules and need to abide by all of them or not play in the NFL

Trent Williams broke this rule once - he was given another chance and he decided to take another chance that he would not be caught - this indicates to me that there were more than likely other times that he did not get caught - why is he allowed to do this?

Abusing alcohol, is absolutely allowed by the NFL. There are no limitations put on how much a player can drink

SkinsJock wrote:[-X don't try and change the subject - what you or I do or feel about drugs or drinking, has ZERO to do with this ...

This is about the fact that Trent was suspended for breaking a rule and then doing it again - by doing so he has let himself and his team down

the marijuana laws of the country have nothing to do with this - and I'm not judging Trent as a person, I'm mad as hell that Trent decided to do marijuana again - I did not sign a contract that included a rule against using marijuana, get myself caught and then do it again

I'm not the one who 'decides' whether Trent did anything wrong or not - get outa here with your hypocrisy BS - that has nothing to do with this - I'm just mad that he did it again and am questioning why we need a player that cannot be trusted

sharing the fact that I like a drink or 2 has nothing to do with this

Deadskins wrote:That said, it's still Trent's fault, for not obeying the rules, that he has been suspended. It doesn't matter how stupid or misguided the rule.

SkinsJock wrote:

Abusing alcohol, is absolutely allowed by the NFL. There are no limitations put on how much a player can drink

if a player shows up drunk or gets involved in an incident from drinking too much the NFL is not going to have an issue with that?

really - that's just stupid - they have a code of contact thing that you might want to get better acquainted with - no player can get regularly intoxicated and keep a job in the NFL - that means there is a limit on how much a player can drink

HEROHAMO wrote:If you want to play in the NFL you can't use marijuana.
If you want to enjoy the millions of dollars an NFL team can pay don't smoke weed. At least during the season. Seriously...

I don't care personally if he smokes. However I don't make the rules.

Blackmon and Norman, of course, remain brave NFL warriors, nobly fighting through the horrors of pro football with the potential assistance of prescription pain narcotics. Their teammate Trent Williams, who appears to have been self-medicating with marijuana? He’s now a coward.

“I think that the right thing to do for Trent Williams is to take that ‘C’ off his jersey, because he doesn’t deserve it,” former quarterback Joe Theismann said this week.

But there are former NFL players who will laugh at this distinction between medicinal and recreational marijuana use, and shake their heads at your insistence that real leaders would never get high.

“There’s a disconnect that makes fans say, ‘How can you do this? You can’t be a captain anymore.’ [But] he was trying to take care of business so that he can be on the field,” said former NFL tight end Nate Jackson, one of the growing number of ex-players advocating that the NFL do away with its marijuana prohibition. “He might not know the science behind it to be able to explain that it’s pain management, but he does know what it makes him feel like compared to what football makes him feel like. He does know how it makes him feel compared to Percocet and those other things he’s been injected with. His own anecdotal experience is telling him this is better for him.

“People say, ‘Is it recreational or medicinal?’ For a football player, it’s the same thing,” Jackson said. “The demands of this game, on the body and the mind, are causing guys to need something, and that’s what they choose. I didn’t know any of the science behind it, but I still used it, and it helped me recover from these injuries … He’s medicating and trying to recover from incredibly brutal hits that would cripple your neighbor and [bleeping] kill your dad. Maybe that will tell you: If he was voted as a captain, he’s a smart guy; he’s a trustworthy guy; he’s a respected veteran. If that guy is using cannabis, maybe we should learn from him: that he’s doing it for a good reason, and not punish him for doing it.”