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Deadskins wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:

emoses14 wrote:I remember Griffin getting hammered about the one set of comments his dad made during the Shanahan debacle. I do not recall any slack. I also don't recall RGII having ever said anything else.

You don't remember the constant reports about Griffin being the only one allowed to have family members down on the field during practices during the Shanny era?

Nope. In fact, I don't remember any reports to that effect, much less constant ones. All of this besides the fact that this incident happened after practice was over.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

emoses14 wrote:I remember Griffin getting hammered about the one set of comments his dad made during the Shanahan debacle. I do not recall any slack. I also don't recall RGII having ever said anything else.

You don't remember the constant reports about Griffin being the only one allowed to have family members down on the field during practices during the Shanny era?

StorminMormon86 wrote:

emoses14 wrote:Re: your comment about Keim (that he asked others; they said they'd never seen it), that is something I'd not seen in either of the reports he filed to ESPN on the topic (links below). I'm not sure what that means as far as RGII helping RGIII get better in this limited manner, but it is a fact I'd not come across. I completely disagree that this "doesn't look good". My first inclination, as I believe Keim's is from his filed reports, is that it doesn't look like anything, good or bad. Gun to my head, I think it looks good because it shows Griffin is working his craft anytime and anyway he can. Isn't that what we all wanted him to do in the first place?

He said it on the radio this morning. I don't have a link because I was listening to it live. Now granted, he did say it was not a big deal with regards to this one instance, but when goaded by Paul and Reid, he admitted that in the "big picture" it still didn't look good because of the drama involving the belief that some have that Griffin II is more involved than he should be.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

StorminMormon86 wrote:You don't remember the constant reports about Griffin being the only one allowed to have family members down on the field during practices during the Shanny era?

Nope. In fact, I don't remember any reports to that effect, much less constant ones. All of this besides the fact that this incident happened after practice was over.

http://www.eurweb.com/2014/11/rg-iii-lo ... -position/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/r ... story.html

Deadskins wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:IMO - while there are not glowing reports coming out of Redskins Park about the progress that Griffin is making - no news is in fact great news

Deadskins wrote:Neither of those articles mentions anything about RGII being on the field during practices. In fact, they don't mention RGII at all. The first is from last season, so that didn't even fit your argument parameters being "during the Shanahan era." They both talk about "special privileges," but nothing like what you were alluding to.

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:When other franchises have QB news revolving around suspensions for cheating, or getting their jaw broke by a teammate.... It's SUPER refreshing to see our boy in the news for staying after practice and working with his pops.

For anyone who believes this to be, or has spun this to be, "drama" or negative in the slightest- lol your a damn hater

SkinsJock wrote:1) the biggest news coming out of TC so far has to be that the QB that so many thought could not/would not be able to both show improvement OR keep his position as the 'starting QB' here is apparently showing that he deserves the job

I think training camp reports also need to be taken with a grain of salt, depending on what camp they’re coming from. What fans don’t think about is that beat writers for one team don’t get the same training camp access as beat writers from another. At some training camps, writers are gathered in an area where the field is hard to see, coaches and players are hard to hear and the action is therefore nearly impossible to follow. And there are plenty of camps where writers simply seek out a spot in the shade, keep an eye on things from afar but actually spend the whole time making small talk with one another. They’re not really paying attention. In fact, this is the case at most training camps. Quality camp reports therefore lean heavily on what the head coach says in his daily press conference. And at that point, you cease to have a quality camp report because a head coach—as he should—will only put out the message he wants to put out.

riggofan wrote:Thought this was an appropriate comment from SI today about training camp reports:

I think training camp reports also need to be taken with a grain of salt, depending on what camp they’re coming from. What fans don’t think about is that beat writers for one team don’t get the same training camp access as beat writers from another. At some training camps, writers are gathered in an area where the field is hard to see, coaches and players are hard to hear and the action is therefore nearly impossible to follow. And there are plenty of camps where writers simply seek out a spot in the shade, keep an eye on things from afar but actually spend the whole time making small talk with one another. They’re not really paying attention. In fact, this is the case at most training camps. Quality camp reports therefore lean heavily on what the head coach says in his daily press conference. And at that point, you cease to have a quality camp report because a head coach—as he should—will only put out the message he wants to put out.

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/08/13/ik-e ... igning-nfl

Deadskins wrote:I don't know. I think the Skins reporters are following the action, or at least, the good ones are. This might explain some of those Jason Reid articles, though.

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:I don't know. I think the Skins reporters are following the action, or at least, the good ones are. This might explain some of those Jason Reid articles, though.

hah. What are you guys all over Jason Reid for though? I don't think he's even on that beat anymore!

I agree though there are good reporters like Keim, Tandler, etc; who are clearly following the action closely. I think the point of that SI article was that you have to take the larger reporting with a grain of salt.

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