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oj wrote:I'm thinking Beasley, in reading thru the thread I hardly see him mentioned is there something about him I'm missing?
Countertrey wrote:Y'all are setting your sights too low. There is a path... yes a slim one... that can result in the best player in this draft falling to 5. If Winston and Mariotta are taken among the first 2, and the next 2 draft for need, Williams may still be there. This IS possible. Instant BEAST DL. Suddenly, Murphy becomes a much better pass rusher, and Kerrigan gets even better than he is already!
That is the question. My hope is that they pick a Linebacker. With Gregory getting stupid, the bar moved a good bit to increase the chances that they stay safe, and pick Williams... one can still hope, though... Jax is notorious for interesting draft picks. Maybe they stick close to home, and go with Dante Fowler... so, I'm breaking out my David Caldwell (Jags GM) voodoo doll, and sharpening up my "poor judgement pins" (may even coat them with a generous portion of Ouzo) ... y'all might consider doing the same.riggofan wrote:Countertrey wrote:Y'all are setting your sights too low. There is a path... yes a slim one... that can result in the best player in this draft falling to 5. If Winston and Mariotta are taken among the first 2, and the next 2 draft for need, Williams may still be there. This IS possible. Instant BEAST DL. Suddenly, Murphy becomes a much better pass rusher, and Kerrigan gets even better than he is already!
You're absolutely right, CT. If the Titans take Mariota or someone trades up to get him, Leonard Williams is very much in play. Does he get past Jax though?
emoses14 wrote:Leonard Williams at #5 is a pipe dream that I'm all about smoking. I really, really (really) don't see it happening, but if it did, I think our D line might be evil. Actually, evil in its nastiness. That would be a nice change.
From what I've heard generally said of this draft, it is deep at pass rusher, along the O-line, inside linebacker and running back (though not a lot in the first round for those last two). So passing on one of the big ticket OLB at 5 and taking Williams then perhaps an edge rusher in round 2 or 3 would suit me just fine.
Countertrey wrote:That is the question. My hope is that they pick a Linebacker. With Gregory getting stupid, the bar moved a good bit to increase the chances that they stay safe, and pick Williams... one can still hope, though... Jax is notorious for interesting draft picks. Maybe they stick close to home, and go with Dante Fowler... so, I'm breaking out my David Caldwell (Jags GM) voodoo doll, and sharpening up my "poor judgement pins" (may even coat them with a generous portion of Ouzo) ... y'all might consider doing the same.riggofan wrote:Countertrey wrote:Y'all are setting your sights too low. There is a path... yes a slim one... that can result in the best player in this draft falling to 5. If Winston and Mariotta are taken among the first 2, and the next 2 draft for need, Williams may still be there. This IS possible. Instant BEAST DL. Suddenly, Murphy becomes a much better pass rusher, and Kerrigan gets even better than he is already!
You're absolutely right, CT. If the Titans take Mariota or someone trades up to get him, Leonard Williams is very much in play. Does he get past Jax though?
. I think you can get them at the Nyawlins Saints online store...yupchagee wrote:Countertrey wrote:That is the question. My hope is that they pick a Linebacker. With Gregory getting stupid, the bar moved a good bit to increase the chances that they stay safe, and pick Williams... one can still hope, though... Jax is notorious for interesting draft picks. Maybe they stick close to home, and go with Dante Fowler... so, I'm breaking out my David Caldwell (Jags GM) voodoo doll, and sharpening up my "poor judgement pins" (may even coat them with a generous portion of Ouzo) ... y'all might consider doing the same.riggofan wrote:
You're absolutely right, CT. If the Titans take Mariota or someone trades up to get him, Leonard Williams is very much in play. Does he get past Jax though?
Where can we get such a doll?
This is what's cool about this draft...Irn-Bru wrote:With Gregory out of the picture, I'm mostly hoping we are the beneficiaries of a wild first round and land Williams with the fifth pick.
But if he's off the board before then, there's a decent chance that Amari Cooper will still be there, and I'd really love for us to grab him.
Irn-Bru wrote:With Gregory out of the picture, I'm mostly hoping we are the beneficiaries of a wild first round and land Williams with the fifth pick.
But if he's off the board before then, there's a decent chance that Amari Cooper will still be there, and I'd really love for us to grab him.
riggofan wrote:There are going to be a lot of quality players at #5. I really enjoy reading up on these guys and wondering what they would bring to the Redskins.
Still gotta say unless Williams is on the board by some miracle, I'm hoping for Brandon Scherff.
oj wrote:I'm thinking Beasley, in reading thru the thread I hardly see him mentioned is there something about him I'm missing?
5. Washington Redskins -- Iowa OT Brandon Scherff: Jay Gruden's success as the play-caller in Cincinnati came with one of the league's biggest offensive lines. He inherited one of the smallest in Washington and there's no question a talent upgrade there is a priority. Not everyone sees Scherff (or any offensive lineman this year) as a top 10 talent, but he plays with the grit and physicality Washington lacks and would be an immediate upgrade at right tackle.
cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Is he the best Oline man in the draft? Is he a day one starter? Doesn't sound like this year offers much elite talent for the oline... if we are to follow the BPA mentality that Scott is preaching, Sherff cant possibly be that top five talent. Maybe if we trade back he is there and at the top of our bpa board AND needs board... I think Amari Cooper is rated higher or White- whomever Oaktown doesnt take
He’ll enter the NFL as close to game-day ready as any rookie, having started all 26 games his last two seasons at left tackle for Iowa Coach Kirk Ferentz, widely respected for developing durable, well-schooled linemen.
Scherff also boasts appealing versatility. NFL scouts are divided on whether he’s best suited as a guard or tackle. Scherff, who has played both in college (he also played quarterback in high school, along with baseball, basketball and tennis, and won the state shot-put title for good measure), says he’s up for any spot on the line — center included.
And he has the grit to play hurt, if need be, rebounding from arthroscopic surgery knee surgery on a Tuesday early in his senior season to practice the next day and play that Saturday — paring what had been a two- to three-week recovery to four days.
“You know, I owe something to my team,” Scherff told reporters this week at the NFL scouting combine, asked why he’d do such a thing. “If I was able to play, I was going to play. They said two weeks or three weeks possibly. I said I felt pretty good Wednesday; ‘Can I throw my knee brace and helmet on and just do some drills?’ They’re like, ‘Yeah, sure! Go ahead.’ Thursday I told ‘em I felt fine. They said it was up to me. So I wanted to do that.”
brad7686 wrote:There seem to be a lot of decent tackle options in the draft. Guard not so much. Maybe we could pick up Cam Erving in the second. Maybe Moses/Long are ready to step up. I would be minorly shocked if they took Scherff at 5, I think both WR's would have to be gone, They'd have to hate all the pass rushers, and I think Danny Shelton would have to be gone as well.
riggofan wrote:brad7686 wrote:There seem to be a lot of decent tackle options in the draft. Guard not so much. Maybe we could pick up Cam Erving in the second. Maybe Moses/Long are ready to step up. I would be minorly shocked if they took Scherff at 5, I think both WR's would have to be gone, They'd have to hate all the pass rushers, and I think Danny Shelton would have to be gone as well.
I think you're most likely right about all that. If all those players are better than Scherff I hope the team does the right thing and takes the best one.
It will just completely suck IMO this year to see the defense playing better, maybe we're lucky and we've added a holy terror to our pass rush. But the offense gets the ball and our QBs still look like they did in 2014. That's really why I'd be happiest to draft a right tackle. If there is anything we can do to help salvage Griffin, I'm in favor of it.
I had high hopes for Morgan Moses, but it doesn't sound like he's stepping on the field anytime soon much less stepping up.
brad7686 wrote:The frustrating thing is that we actually have been taking linemen in recent drafts, they just haven't really hit on any of them.
