POLL: Who would you like the team to PICK at #5

[brad7686]

I'm thinking Beasley, in reading thru the thread I hardly see him mentioned is there something about him I'm missing?

For some reason he wasn't as highly regarded by analysts, but the combine changed that. He added weight and was very fast. I think he's very much in play for us and I vastly prefer him to Shane Ray.

[oj]

Thanks, I was afraid I was being publicy stupid...again.

[riggofan]

Y'all are setting your sights too low. There is a path... yes a slim one... that can result in the best player in this draft falling to 5. If Winston and Mariotta are taken among the first 2, and the next 2 draft for need, Williams may still be there. This IS possible. Instant BEAST DL. Suddenly, Murphy becomes a much better pass rusher, and Kerrigan gets even better than he is already!

You're absolutely right, CT. If the Titans take Mariota or someone trades up to get him, Leonard Williams is very much in play. Does he get past Jax though?

[Countertrey]

Y'all are setting your sights too low. There is a path... yes a slim one... that can result in the best player in this draft falling to 5. If Winston and Mariotta are taken among the first 2, and the next 2 draft for need, Williams may still be there. This IS possible. Instant BEAST DL. Suddenly, Murphy becomes a much better pass rusher, and Kerrigan gets even better than he is already!

You're absolutely right, CT. If the Titans take Mariota or someone trades up to get him, Leonard Williams is very much in play. Does he get past Jax though?

That is the question. My hope is that they pick a Linebacker. With Gregory getting stupid, the bar moved a good bit to increase the chances that they stay safe, and pick Williams... one can still hope, though... Jax is notorious for interesting draft picks. Maybe they stick close to home, and go with Dante Fowler... so, I'm breaking out my David Caldwell (Jags GM) voodoo doll, and sharpening up my "poor judgement pins" (may even coat them with a generous portion of Ouzo) ... y'all might consider doing the same.

[emoses14]

Leonard Williams at #5 is a pipe dream that I'm all about smoking. I really, really (really) don't see it happening, but if it did, I think our D line might be evil. Actually, evil in its nastiness. That would be a nice change.

From what I've heard generally said of this draft, it is deep at pass rusher, along the O-line, inside linebacker and running back (though not a lot in the first round for those last two). So passing on one of the big ticket OLB at 5 and taking Williams then perhaps an edge rusher in round 2 or 3 would suit me just fine.

[Countertrey]

Leonard Williams at #5 is a pipe dream that I'm all about smoking. I really, really (really) don't see it happening, but if it did, I think our D line might be evil. Actually, evil in its nastiness. That would be a nice change.

From what I've heard generally said of this draft, it is deep at pass rusher, along the O-line, inside linebacker and running back (though not a lot in the first round for those last two). So passing on one of the big ticket OLB at 5 and taking Williams then perhaps an edge rusher in round 2 or 3 would suit me just fine.

Just going to point out... sometimes "pipe dreams" work out... see Brian Orakpo. I was dancing in my car while driving north on I-95 when that one was called...

[Bishop Hammer]

After reading up on him more Fowler. I wanted Wash to draft Shane Ray but that is looking more and more unlikely. Out of all the candidates in the running he looks like the best.

I would say Williams if hes available but thats a big if.

[yupchagee]

Y'all are setting your sights too low. There is a path... yes a slim one... that can result in the best player in this draft falling to 5. If Winston and Mariotta are taken among the first 2, and the next 2 draft for need, Williams may still be there. This IS possible. Instant BEAST DL. Suddenly, Murphy becomes a much better pass rusher, and Kerrigan gets even better than he is already!

You're absolutely right, CT. If the Titans take Mariota or someone trades up to get him, Leonard Williams is very much in play. Does he get past Jax though?

That is the question. My hope is that they pick a Linebacker. With Gregory getting stupid, the bar moved a good bit to increase the chances that they stay safe, and pick Williams... one can still hope, though... Jax is notorious for interesting draft picks. Maybe they stick close to home, and go with Dante Fowler... so, I'm breaking out my David Caldwell (Jags GM) voodoo doll, and sharpening up my "poor judgement pins" (may even coat them with a generous portion of Ouzo) ... y'all might consider doing the same.

Where can we get such a doll?

[Countertrey]

You're absolutely right, CT. If the Titans take Mariota or someone trades up to get him, Leonard Williams is very much in play. Does he get past Jax though?

That is the question. My hope is that they pick a Linebacker. With Gregory getting stupid, the bar moved a good bit to increase the chances that they stay safe, and pick Williams... one can still hope, though... Jax is notorious for interesting draft picks. Maybe they stick close to home, and go with Dante Fowler... so, I'm breaking out my David Caldwell (Jags GM) voodoo doll, and sharpening up my "poor judgement pins" (may even coat them with a generous portion of Ouzo) ... y'all might consider doing the same.

Where can we get such a doll?

. I think you can get them at the Nyawlins Saints online store...

[Deadskins]

I know who I'd draft.

[Countertrey]

I know who I'd draft.

[PAPDOG67]

A few months back I said that there is no way in hell we would draft a WR, but the more and more I thought about it, I would not be surprised to see us take one at 5 if we have to pick there. Contrary to popular belief, we are not as deep at WR as people think. One injury to Garcon or DeSean and we are in deep doo doo. Roberts is a nice # 3, but after that its grandpa Moss and the 5th round rookie from last year. Not exactly a stacked position. I would not at all be against grabbing that kid White or Cooper at # 5 if Scott feels they offer the best value. This is likely Garcon's last season as well as his cap number is even more outrageous next year than it is this year. We could then get our LB and or OL help in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

[Irn-Bru]

With Gregory out of the picture, I'm mostly hoping we are the beneficiaries of a wild first round and land Williams with the fifth pick.

But if he's off the board before then, there's a decent chance that Amari Cooper will still be there, and I'd really love for us to grab him.

[Countertrey]

With Gregory out of the picture, I'm mostly hoping we are the beneficiaries of a wild first round and land Williams with the fifth pick.

But if he's off the board before then, there's a decent chance that Amari Cooper will still be there, and I'd really love for us to grab him.

This is what's cool about this draft...
we got options!

[brad7686]

With Gregory out of the picture, I'm mostly hoping we are the beneficiaries of a wild first round and land Williams with the fifth pick.

But if he's off the board before then, there's a decent chance that Amari Cooper will still be there, and I'd really love for us to grab him.

Yea if we truly go BPA, Williams or Cooper won't make it past us if they are there. I like some of the pass rushers in this class, but they all have weaknesses you can pick out. Fowler's production, Ray's athleticism, Beasley's size. Amari Cooper was open by 5 yards or more pretty much all day, often against SEC competition.

[riggofan]

There are going to be a lot of quality players at #5. I really enjoy reading up on these guys and wondering what they would bring to the Redskins.

Still gotta say unless Williams is on the board by some miracle, I'm hoping for Brandon Scherff.

[SkinsJock]

There are going to be a lot of quality players at #5. I really enjoy reading up on these guys and wondering what they would bring to the Redskins.

Still gotta say unless Williams is on the board by some miracle, I'm hoping for Brandon Scherff.

I'd be OK with this as well - he's going to be a really good lineman

[Bishop Hammer]

I'm thinking Beasley, in reading thru the thread I hardly see him mentioned is there something about him I'm missing?

Judging from this report not likely.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/3/6/81 ... -breakdown

Beasley has consistently been rated the number one edge rusher in the draft. Before I was high on Ray or Fowler now I'm all in for Vic B!

[tribeofjudah]

CBS sports says we take Sherff............I don't know????

5. Washington Redskins -- Iowa OT Brandon Scherff: Jay Gruden's success as the play-caller in Cincinnati came with one of the league's biggest offensive lines. He inherited one of the smallest in Washington and there's no question a talent upgrade there is a priority. Not everyone sees Scherff (or any offensive lineman this year) as a top 10 talent, but he plays with the grit and physicality Washington lacks and would be an immediate upgrade at right tackle.

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

Is he the best Oline man in the draft? Is he a day one starter? Doesn't sound like this year offers much elite talent for the oline... if we are to follow the BPA mentality that Scott is preaching, Sherff cant possibly be that top five talent. Maybe if we trade back he is there and at the top of our bpa board AND needs board... I think Amari Cooper is rated higher or White- whomever Oaktown doesnt take

[riggofan]

Is he the best Oline man in the draft? Is he a day one starter? Doesn't sound like this year offers much elite talent for the oline... if we are to follow the BPA mentality that Scott is preaching, Sherff cant possibly be that top five talent. Maybe if we trade back he is there and at the top of our bpa board AND needs board... I think Amari Cooper is rated higher or White- whomever Oaktown doesnt take

You could be right. I'm not pretending to be any sort of talent evaluator. I would just love to see the team invest a pick in another high quality o-lineman, especially RT. Its been Trent and a bunch of other guys for too long. I'll be happy with a pass rusher or WR or whatever, but this is the pick that would make me happiest assuming McGloughan decides he's worth it.

One thing I've taken from things SM has said is that he's evaluating more than just the numbers these guys put up in college and Mel Kiper's conventional wisdom. He's talked a lot about wanting to draft guys who really love football, high character guys, etc; That's one reason I could see Scherff being graded higher than a G/RT might be otherwise.

He’ll enter the NFL as close to game-day ready as any rookie, having started all 26 games his last two seasons at left tackle for Iowa Coach Kirk Ferentz, widely respected for developing durable, well-schooled linemen.

Scherff also boasts appealing versatility. NFL scouts are divided on whether he’s best suited as a guard or tackle. Scherff, who has played both in college (he also played quarterback in high school, along with baseball, basketball and tennis, and won the state shot-put title for good measure), says he’s up for any spot on the line — center included.

And he has the grit to play hurt, if need be, rebounding from arthroscopic surgery knee surgery on a Tuesday early in his senior season to practice the next day and play that Saturday — paring what had been a two- to three-week recovery to four days.

“You know, I owe something to my team,” Scherff told reporters this week at the NFL scouting combine, asked why he’d do such a thing. “If I was able to play, I was going to play. They said two weeks or three weeks possibly. I said I felt pretty good Wednesday; ‘Can I throw my knee brace and helmet on and just do some drills?’ They’re like, ‘Yeah, sure! Go ahead.’ Thursday I told ‘em I felt fine. They said it was up to me. So I wanted to do that.”

Sounds like the kind of core guy you want on your team.

[brad7686]

There seem to be a lot of decent tackle options in the draft. Guard not so much. Maybe we could pick up Cam Erving in the second. Maybe Moses/Long are ready to step up. I would be minorly shocked if they took Scherff at 5, I think both WR's would have to be gone, They'd have to hate all the pass rushers, and I think Danny Shelton would have to be gone as well.

[riggofan]

There seem to be a lot of decent tackle options in the draft. Guard not so much. Maybe we could pick up Cam Erving in the second. Maybe Moses/Long are ready to step up. I would be minorly shocked if they took Scherff at 5, I think both WR's would have to be gone, They'd have to hate all the pass rushers, and I think Danny Shelton would have to be gone as well.

I think you're most likely right about all that. If all those players are better than Scherff I hope the team does the right thing and takes the best one.

It will just completely suck IMO this year to see the defense playing better, maybe we're lucky and we've added a holy terror to our pass rush. But the offense gets the ball and our QBs still look like they did in 2014. That's really why I'd be happiest to draft a right tackle. If there is anything we can do to help salvage Griffin, I'm in favor of it.

I had high hopes for Morgan Moses, but it doesn't sound like he's stepping on the field anytime soon much less stepping up.

[brad7686]

There seem to be a lot of decent tackle options in the draft. Guard not so much. Maybe we could pick up Cam Erving in the second. Maybe Moses/Long are ready to step up. I would be minorly shocked if they took Scherff at 5, I think both WR's would have to be gone, They'd have to hate all the pass rushers, and I think Danny Shelton would have to be gone as well.

I think you're most likely right about all that. If all those players are better than Scherff I hope the team does the right thing and takes the best one.

It will just completely suck IMO this year to see the defense playing better, maybe we're lucky and we've added a holy terror to our pass rush. But the offense gets the ball and our QBs still look like they did in 2014. That's really why I'd be happiest to draft a right tackle. If there is anything we can do to help salvage Griffin, I'm in favor of it.

I had high hopes for Morgan Moses, but it doesn't sound like he's stepping on the field anytime soon much less stepping up.

Yea I agree that they aren't going anywhere without much better personnel on the line. I think they will BPA the first round, but I hope they plan on targeting OL in the second/third. The frustrating thing is that we actually have been taking linemen in recent drafts, they just haven't really hit on any of them. Now the system calls for different sized linemen all together. Any way you slice it, we're going to have holes this year, but it is frustrating that it's always the O-Line and 4/5 of our line looks like Matadors on any given play. Ole.

[riggofan]

The frustrating thing is that we actually have been taking linemen in recent drafts, they just haven't really hit on any of them.

REALLY frustrating. Can you name a single one who has started a significant amount of time?

I think you're right about there possibly being some good options at OT in the second round, especially picking fifth. That's probably not the case with pass rushers. If you want one of the really elite guys, you probably have to get him in the first ten to fifteen picks.