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I'm just posting BS like most of the other guys here - what's the problem?

your problem is you take all this stuff way too seriously - it's a freaking game and we have a franchise that is dysfunctional

get over yourself

btw - I'm tired of your stuff - you're on the list, bye

riggofan wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I'm done with Gruden - he's the real reason we lost the last 3 games - we could be at 6-5

Gruden took Colt out and Gruden calls the plays that don't work

time to clear house - Snyder needs to get the attention back on himself and fire everybody from the GM down - clean slate

I was looking forward to those last 3 games but we don't have a chance with this guy at HC, calling stupid plays and not playing Colt

You've got to be freaking kidding me. You've been one of the people demanding he play RGIII, and now you're blaming him for it? Blaming him because the guy you said was "a special player" couldn't execute his plays?

Seriously your most idiotic post ever. I don't know how you think you have any credibility posting garbage like this.

Your sarcasm sensor must not be working, riggo.

Deadskins wrote:Your sarcasm sensor must not be working, riggo.

I think if you're doing sarcasm well, you probably don't have to explain that you're being sarcastic.

C00ley has made the Cousins issue a bit more clear, for me anyway. A caller called in yesterday and asked why Cousins got benched after 5 games, why didn't Gruden give more time for evaluation of Cousins, etc. and C00ley responded that Cousins was put it not for evaluation, but rather to "win now". Gruden wanted the season saved at that point, and when Cousins wasn't winning games, he was benched. Simple as that. Now that the season is over, he thinks Gruden might go back to Cousins for an evaluation period. Someone asked if the organization still believed in Cousins and C00ley said "absolutely".

IMO - the organization still thinks they have 3 NFL QBs, we'll find out tomorrow which one Gruden thinks is best for this week's game

StorminMormon86 wrote:C00ley has made the Cousins issue a bit more clear, for me anyway. A caller called in yesterday and asked why Cousins got benched after 5 games, why didn't Gruden give more time for evaluation of Cousins, etc. and C00ley responded that Cousins was put it not for evaluation, but rather to "win now". Gruden wanted the season saved at that point, and when Cousins wasn't winning games, he was benched. Simple as that. Now that the season is over, he thinks Gruden might go back to Cousins for an evaluation period. Someone asked if the organization still believed in Cousins and C00ley said "absolutely".

No way of knowing for sure, but that explanation makes complete sense to me and I wouldn't be surprised to see them go back to Cousins.

Aren't C00ley and Cousins really good friends off the field btw?

riggofan wrote:No way of knowing for sure, but that explanation makes complete sense to me and I wouldn't be surprised to see them go back to Cousins.

Aren't C00ley and Cousins really good friends off the field btw?

I'm not sure how close they are. Although the other two hosts did bring up the fact that C00ley talks to Gruden on a weekly basis, but C00ley kind of brushed that off.

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Your sarcasm sensor must not be working, riggo.

I think if you're doing sarcasm well, you probably don't have to explain that you're being sarcastic.

True ... however ... Deadman is explaining someone else's sarcasm not his own AND seems everyone else got it. I mean, after all ...

SkinsJock wrote:Snyder needs to get the attention back on himself and fire everybody from the GM down - clean slate

and

SkinsJock wrote:I was looking forward to those last 3 games but we don't have a chance with this guy at HC, calling stupid plays and not playing Colt

Then again, a post from SJ can contradict itself repeatedly so I can understand why you were briefly flummoxed.

DarthMonk wrote:Then again, a post from SJ can contradict itself repeatedly so I can understand why you were briefly flummoxed.

This is true.

most of you (that's not true) - a few of you know where I stand on the issues this franchise is facing

I just got tired of so many idiotic, nonsensical posts that I thought I'd add a few of my own

it does not surprise me to see the few that don't get it, identify themselves .... and their ignorance

I loves ey's break down's. They are unique and refreshing to hear. You do not get that much of detail from other analysts. He breaks down the good and the bad and if it is bad he explains why. He also is balanced and seem to know defense quite a bit as well. Like how he puts in the time as I know it is alot of work to just sit and watch film.

Only negatives are he is a bit harsh on the quarterback position considering the youth and time of our guys in a new offense. I feel if he ever had played the position he would be a tad bit more forgiven on somethings as sometimes you can't be robotic and play to perfection. I think since he was a tight end and part of blocking schemes for the quarterback at times he is biased and favors the olineman.

I like ey's breakdowns as well, but you need to take them with a grain of salt. I remember him saying how Philly and GB have awful O-lines as well, yet they score points. He couldn't have been more off on that evaluation. Philly's O-line is very good, and GB I would say is above average.

SkinsJock wrote:I'm just posting BS like most of the other guys here - what's the problem?

your problem is you take all this stuff way too seriously - it's a freaking game and we have a franchise that is dysfunctional

get over yourself

btw - I'm tired of your stuff - you're on the list, bye

Congrats Riggofan!!!

This means you officially know what you're talking about!!!

DarthMonk wrote:

riggofan wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Your sarcasm sensor must not be working, riggo.

I think if you're doing sarcasm well, you probably don't have to explain that you're being sarcastic.

True ... however ... Deadman is explaining someone else's sarcasm not his own AND seems everyone else got it. I mean, after all ...

SkinsJock wrote:Snyder needs to get the attention back on himself and fire everybody from the GM down - clean slate

and

SkinsJock wrote:I was looking forward to those last 3 games but we don't have a chance with this guy at HC, calling stupid plays and not playing Colt

Then again, a post from SJ can contradict itself repeatedly so I can understand why you were briefly flummoxed.

SkinsJock has flooded the forum with so much BS and "predictions" that have ended up being nowhere near true --- so I'm not sure how anyone would know what he said was sarcasm or what he actually thinks...... And yes, there is also the contradictory (mostly attempts to retract something he originally posted that ended up being flat wrong) stuff as well.

I think his strategy now is to just start making any comment he can and hope it sticks (i.e., the whole even a broken clock is right twice a day concept).

markshark84 wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:I'm just posting BS like most of the other guys here - what's the problem?

your problem is you take all this stuff way too seriously - it's a freaking game and we have a franchise that is dysfunctional

get over yourself

btw - I'm tired of your stuff - you're on the list, bye

Congrats Riggofan!!!

This means you officially know what you're talking about!!!

hah. I completely missed that I've been added to his "list".

DarthMonk wrote:Then again, a post from SJ can contradict itself repeatedly so I can understand why you were briefly flummoxed.

hah. I wasn't completely flummoxed. When I first read his post, I sort of thought he was being sarcastic. But he posted similar stuff in a couple other threads that day, so...?

riggofan wrote:hah. I completely missed that I've been added to his "list".

Yes, from what I can tell his "list" consists of people who generally don't agree with his football opinions or call him out when he makes inaccurate or nonsensical statements.

So basically, it's a list of the most intelligent posters on the board.

PAPDOG67 wrote:I like ey's breakdowns as well, but you need to take them with a grain of salt. I remember him saying how Philly and GB have awful O-lines as well, yet they score points. He couldn't have been more off on that evaluation. Philly's O-line is very good, and GB I would say is above average.

I didn't hear that specific day that he said that but Philly to me had the leagues best OLINE in 2013. So maybe he was just referring to when a bunch of guys were injured when they played us.

Green Bay's line is probably just average. What is helping them this year is the coordinator at least try to run the football. In the past defenders were always in passrush the qb mode for obvious reasons.

What I hate is how Trent Williams has been the only upgrade since Shanahan/Gruden been here. Samuels/Dockery/Rabach/Thomas/Jansen compared to what we have now smh.

mastdark81 wrote:What I hate is how Trent Williams has been the only upgrade since Shanahan/Gruden been here. Samuels/Dockery/Rabach/Thomas/Jansen compared to what we have now smh.

This isn't really true. Lauvao is a minor upgrade, as is Lichtensteiger at center. But the real upgrades were in depth. We have backups who are better than some of our 2010 starters, and none of the backups from back then could have made the current team.

If we had a decent starting right guard/tackle combo, we'd be doing pretty well for ourselves. Not the best line in the NFL, but definitely functional.

Irn-Bru wrote:

mastdark81 wrote:What I hate is how Trent Williams has been the only upgrade since Shanahan/Gruden been here. Samuels/Dockery/Rabach/Thomas/Jansen compared to what we have now smh.

This isn't really true. Lauvao is a minor upgrade, as is Lichtensteiger at center. But the real upgrades were in depth. We have backups who are better than some of our 2010 starters, and none of the backups from back then could have made the current team.

If we had a decent starting right guard/tackle combo, we'd be doing pretty well for ourselves. Not the best line in the NFL, but definitely functional.

EAG line was decimated and very leaky early. Shady was getting stuffed and Foles was under MUCH MORE duress than last year. The backups were in fantastic shape though (as is the whole team) so they continued to wear people out. EAGS are playing 70 snaps per game on defense!!

Our line would be pretty darn good with a RG and a RT.

Irn-Bru wrote:

mastdark81 wrote:What I hate is how Trent Williams has been the only upgrade since Shanahan/Gruden been here. Samuels/Dockery/Rabach/Thomas/Jansen compared to what we have now smh.

This isn't really true. Lauvao is a minor upgrade, as is Lichtensteiger at center. But the real upgrades were in depth. We have backups who are better than some of our 2010 starters, and none of the backups from back then could have made the current team.

If we had a decent starting right guard/tackle combo, we'd be doing pretty well for ourselves. Not the best line in the NFL, but definitely functional.

I was more comparing our lines in past years compared to this years. Would love to have another Jansen type at RT. I personally think the oline is a functional line, every line in the NFL is functional however.

The difference are levels to this league. We have a regular season oline. What I mean by that is we can do fine for some games in the regular season but this line is not built to succeed in the playoffs nor the Super Bowl. Thats the goal I would hope from this team. The line need at least two new guys (G & T) that are either pro bowl or near pro bowl level.

I'm old fashioned - I think having good linemen and depth is a good thing ...

building even an average O line takes time and is not simply a matter of finding pro bowl or all-pro players

Our franchise has not done well with the O linemen we've added recently and we're going to lose Trent soon as well

SkinsJock wrote:I'm old fashioned - I think having good linemen and depth is a good thing ...

building even an average O line takes time and is not simply a matter of finding pro bowl or all pro players

If that is true, why are you always on here advocating that we need to find or draft players for the offensive line? We just drafted Long and Moses last year to address RG and RT. So by all accounts, we should be in good shape at o-line going into this year's draft. From what you just wrote, all we need is time.

SkinsJock wrote:Our franchise has not done well with offensive linemen recently and we're going to lose Trent soon as well

Why would we lose Trent? The guy is the best player on our offensive line. We'll sign him to a well deserved contract extension before he ever comes close to being a free agent.

C00ley says we have found our RT in Compton and we should explore Morgan Moses at RG.

DarthMonk wrote: CC says we have found our RT in Compton and we should explore Morgan Moses at RG.

I'm hopeful that Compton, Moses and Long can contribute here - the O line will take time but everyone (except Trent) from the group that were starters in 2013 need to be gone - Kory will most likely stay but he's now a center