Screw the QB discussion, Skins D is Atrocious

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SkinsJock wrote:not sure that we went into this season thinking that we were 'fine' - we were not able to address 2 huge areas of concern - the O line and the secondary

gong in we looked like we would be competitive in the division, mostly because the pukes and giants looked horrible - we shall see ...

we are not doing well but the last game was an aberration - we need to do better and I have confidence in the coaching and the players


I prefer to see this season in a more positive light than some :twisted:


I haven't figured out if you are overly optimistic about this team, or just plain in denial...I don't know what you're seeing that I'm not, but I see yet another dismal season...3-13, or possibly 4-12, but no better...
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I am looking for the team to improve - seeing what the team did against the eagles was encouraging

the record is not as important as finding out what we need to do moving on - the secondary and the O line are serious issues ...

the win loss record is not as important to me as it is to others - I'm hoping we get consistently good performances out of our coaches and players, that's all

the wins will come when we have the quality depth we need
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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SkinsJock wrote:I am looking for the team to improve - seeing what the team did against the eagles was encouraging

the record is not as important as finding out what we need to do moving on - the secondary and the O line are serious issues ...

the win loss record is not as important to me as it is to others - I'm hoping we get consistently good performances out of our coaches and players, that's all

the wins will come when we have the quality depth we need


I don't know why wins aren't important to you...if the team's winning, then who cares about the rest of the stuff? Besides, winning is the most important thing...it's pretty tough to make the playoffs, and impossible to win Superbowls if the team isn't winning, and isn't that the ultimate goal?
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SkinsJock wrote:I am looking for the team to improve - seeing what the team did against the eagles was encouraging

the record is not as important as finding out what we need to do moving on - the secondary and the O line are serious issues ...

the win loss record is not as important to me as it is to others - I'm hoping we get consistently good performances out of our coaches and players, that's all

the wins will come when we have the quality depth we need


I understand what you're saying. I was disappointed by the loss to the Eagles, but it was still a good game against a quality team. The defense looked bad in the first half, but they made adjustments at halftime and gave us a chance to win in the second. Players looked like they were busting their *** to win that game. They were fighting for each other, and I appreciate that.

I always want to win, but from where we were last year I can watch a game like that and still feel positive about the team.

The loss v. the Giants was just such a 180. I totally understand fans watching that game and thinking: "More of the same old same old." I know that's what I've been thinking. 45-14 in a prime time game in front of YOUR fans. That's worse than unacceptable.

I can accept that we might not win on Monday night v. the Seahawks. We're the underdogs, they're the Super Bowl champs. But if we're going to lose, I want to see the team go down fighting and coaches pulling out every trick in the book. Don't embarrass us.
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I did not mean to imply that I don't want the team to win - it's just that the team we saw in the eagles game looked like a team that would be in contention against good teams and then to lose to a horrible team the next game was just V disappointing - we have a lot of issues but we need to see a lot better effort from these guys

Before the season, I did not expect great things or even the playoffs with this team
I thought we might do well in our division but that's only because the giants and pukes looked so horrible

building an effective O line takes a long time - first you need the players and then you need them to get used to playing together - that takes years NOT 1 season

then you have the secondary .... :roll:

I don't think the game last Thursday was a good indication of where this team is at
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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SkinsJock wrote:I did not mean to imply that I don't want the team to win - it's just that the team we saw in the eagles game looked like a team that would be in contention against good teams and then to lose to a horrible team the next game was just V disappointing - we have a lot of issues but we need to see a lot better effort from these guys

Before the season, I did not expect great things or even the playoffs with this team
I thought we might do well in our division but that's only because the giants and pukes looked so horrible

building an effective O line takes a long time - first you need the players and then you need them to get used to playing together - that takes years NOT 1 season

then you have the secondary .... :roll:

I don't think the game last Thursday was a good indication of where this team is at


I agree last Thursday's game was a worst case scenario, but there's no question that right now, this is a bad team...
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Fortunately the Redskins are not playing 'right now' so it does not matter how good or bad they are in your opinion

I'm looking for the Redskins to show everyone that they are not a bad team on Monday Night Football :lol:
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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I was willing to look past Haslett's shoddy past, here, judging him soley on this season. So far same disappointing, vomit inducing results.

Truth is it doesn't matter what changes are made. Until someone who knows how to properly concstruct a football team takesover all the coaches, coordinators, or players are just a few small fried shrimps out of a big platter of crap us fans have to eat.
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Re: Screw the QB discussion, Skins D is Atrocious

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absinthe1023 wrote:The skins D as currently constructed and coached would not be a top 5 defense in the SEC, much less the NFL. Not too many winnable games left on the schedule.


QFT. It's sad to see guys like Cousins, DJax, Trent Williams, and Garcon perform admirably all for nothing because this defense can't possibly keep us in any games.
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