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SkinsJock wrote:really :shock: - I am admittedly optimistic but I don't see my optimism as being extreme ...


I would say you tend towards extremely optimistic... :)

SkinsJock wrote:we are nowhere near as bad as we looked last season - the reasons for that will not be a part of this franchise this season


We might have been better than 3-13, but in all honesty I don't think we were much better than that record. For that reason, I sort of agree with some of what RayNAustin is saying (and you as well). There were more than a few weak links on the team last year that I'm eager to see replaced.
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to clarify a little - I'm wrong in saying we're not as bad as our record - that's a fact

because of some key players here, with a few changes (and I expect a huge turnover) this franchise will see a much better product on the field this season - Jay Gruden and Jim Haslett would win more than 3 games with the same roster as last year is what I'm getting at
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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I am not nearly as optimistic as I was at this time last year ...

I am looking forward to Robert Griffin showing everyone that last season was an aberration
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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riggofan wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:
chiefhog44 wrote:I would love to pick up Chris Clemons and Tarrel Brown on the cheap. This free agency confirms IMO that Snyder is completely OUT of the picture. Finished. We are finally building this correctly.


It's WAY too early to say that we are building "correctly." By all accounts we were really interested in Mitchell but didn't get him, so who knows if this was our plan all along or if we've just failed to execute our plan. Besides, I don't think that there is any magical formula for building a team "correctly."


I think his point that "Snyder is completely OUT of the picture" is why he is saying we are building this correctly. No argument from me there.

Regarding Mitchell, I don't see how his signing with Pittsburgh would mean we didn't execute our plan correctly. We can be interested in and want to sign any player we want. But if that guy wants too much money or - in this case - just prefers to play in Pittsburgh (and who can freaking blame him?) I think executing the plan correctly means that you don't push the panic button and chase/overpay that guy. You move on to the next player.


Nobody outside of Snyder, Bruce, and handful of people at Redskins Park know what Snyder's roll is. It's absurd to say that he is completely out of the picture, let alone to base that opinion off of one day of free agency.

And I never said that Mitchell signing with Pittsburgh means we didn't execute our plan correctly. My point is that as fans we have no idea what their plan is, and as far as we know they could be executing their plan (good or bad) perfectly or failing miserably. I used Mitchell as an example because he was widely rumored to be one of our main targets and he signed a reasonable deal with Pittsburgh.
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CanesSkins26 wrote:Nobody outside of Snyder, Bruce, and handful of people at Redskins Park know what Snyder's roll is. It's absurd to say that he is completely out of the picture, let alone to base that opinion off of one day of free agency.


True. I think it's safe to say that he's not out of control anymore. I'd think it's also safe to say that through Bruce, the opinions of the experts is now heard and given weight.


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It was NOT due to any deficiency on our FO's part that he was not signed.

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Chris Luva Luva wrote:
CanesSkins26 wrote:Nobody outside of Snyder, Bruce, and handful of people at Redskins Park know what Snyder's roll is. It's absurd to say that he is completely out of the picture, let alone to base that opinion off of one day of free agency.


True. I think it's safe to say that he's not out of control anymore. I'd think it's also safe to say that through Bruce, the opinions of the experts is now heard and given weight.


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MIKE MITCHELL WANTED TO PLAY FOR PITTSBURGH. MIKE WANTED TO PLAY IN PITT. HE WANTED TO PLAY FOR THAT DEFENSE.

It was NOT due to any deficiency on our FO's part that he was not signed.

SHOCKING REVELATION INCOMING NFL free agency is not indentured servitude, nor is it a slave auction where people go to the highest bidder. Players care about things other than money. Players have thoughts. Players who emotions. They choose. They drink. They breathe air. Just because we didn't land someone doesn't mean we're incompetent or didn't try.


That's a perfectly legitimate excuse for one player ... how about the other dozen safeties and corners? Same thing?
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RayNAustin wrote:That's a perfectly legitimate excuse for one player ... how about the other dozen safeties and corners? Same thing?


Why would it only be a legitimate "excuse" for one player? You can accept that Mitchell is a player and "Players care about things other than money. Players have thoughts. Players who emotions. They choose. They drink. They breathe air." but that same thing doesn't apply to any of the other free agents out there?

I'm not sure its really an "excuse" for anything anyway, its just a fact of life. Free agent football players get to choose where they play. It shouldn't be surprising that we're missing out on some guys who want to go play for perceived contenders like the Broncos, Patriots, Saints or even the Steelers.

If we're not going to be every free agent's lottery ticket/payday, we gotta be honest that we're not the most attractive destination for top free agents right now.

I get your frustration though, man. Not hitting on ANYBODY at safety yet is killing me.
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riggofan wrote:
RayNAustin wrote:That's a perfectly legitimate excuse for one player ... how about the other dozen safeties and corners? Same thing?


Why would it only be a legitimate "excuse" for one player? You can accept that Mitchell is a player and "Players care about things other than money. Players have thoughts. Players who emotions. They choose. They drink. They breathe air." but that same thing doesn't apply to any of the other free agents out there?

I'm not sure its really an "excuse" for anything anyway, its just a fact of life. Free agent football players get to choose where they play. It shouldn't be surprising that we're missing out on some guys who want to go play for perceived contenders like the Broncos, Patriots, Saints or even the Steelers.

If we're not going to be every free agent's lottery ticket/payday, we gotta be honest that we're not the most attractive destination for top free agents right now.

I get your frustration though, man. Not hitting on ANYBODY at safety yet is killing me.


I'm with you on that, and that's the source of my frustration ... failing to land a safety needed so badly, with half a dozen available!

But I'm not buying the idea that the Redskins are perceived as a struggling franchise, not far removed from a dysfunctional Raider team. Last year aside, the Redskins won the NFC East, and were on the verge of blowing out Seattle in the playoffs before RG3 came up lame. And aside his struggles last year, I think it's safe to say he is still perceived as, and expected to be a top tier talent in the league, with most of the pieces in place to have a resurgence this year under the guidance of Gruden.

Everybody knows that it was the defense last year that collapsed, taking the team down with it ... a lame duck staff on it's way out, and a team forced to field incompetent players in the defensive backfield because of a crippling cap penalty.

The reality is, if any team might be expected to bounce back, that could surely be applied to the Redskins, and especially given the status of it's division opponents, with only the Eagles being a threat. The Cowboys are toast, and the Giants not far behind.

There are many ifs here ... if Robert can return to rookie form ... if the defense can figure it out ... if the new staff has some magic up their sleeve ... but the biggest if could have been transformed from being our biggest liability to a position of strength had the FO been more successful/aggressive in addressing the secondary holes.

That's particularly true given the Hatcher signing which upgraded an already decent defensive front 7. Signing a guy like Byrd would have fixed the most glarring deficiency on this defense. A game changing player at free safety can transform a handful of close losses into wins, especially in this new NFL and it's pass happy new face.

There are no unimportant positions on the field, but a few critical ones that sub par talent cannot be fixed with schemes ... QB on offense ... a dominant wide receiver ... a pass rushing beast, and your last line of defense ... free safety. These are impact positions that can neutralize an opponent's strengths and advantage, and change the outcome of games. It can be the difference between 8-8 or 12-4.
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Give me a break - let's give the guys in charge here (and the coaching staff) more credit ...
the FO and coaching staff do have a clue about what they're doing and they have a plan to get it done
that may not suit a bunch of fans and it is worth discussing but it's way too early to think that they have done a bad job in not signing some players we all think they should have

it's going to take time - we no longer add the BPA - we are OBVIOUSLY trying to add those that these guys think will 'fit'


more evidence that Dan Snyder is not involved with anything to do with the coaching or players or what goes on 'on the field' :lol:
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Where should we spend Dans money? I wish he would take care of my debt but seeing as I don't think that will ever happen I think they have done the best they could so far filling as many wholes as possible. It will take time guys. I am as tired as hearing that as you are but truth is truth.
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PAPDOG67 wrote:RayNaustin, I am with you. We desperately need a FS and/or secondary help. I don't know if over paying for Byrd was the answer, but there were other safety options out there, and we seemed to be asleep at the wheel.
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it seems that the guys in charge are not going to spend money on free agents like the Redskins used to ...

we have a lot of needs but these guys seem to be making sure that if they really find a player that they want they'll have the money to go get him
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance
Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
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SkinsJock wrote:it seems that the guys in charge are not going to spend money on free agents like the Redskins used to ...

we have a lot of needs but these guys seem to be making sure that if they really find a player that they want they'll have the money to go get him


It looks like restraint and sanity, both of which are good things. I think its also smart to admit that we're not like "one good player" away from being good. It might make sense for the Broncos or Saints to drop $56m on a Jairus Byrd to put their team over the top. Definitely not the case in Washington.
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riggofan wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:it seems that the guys in charge are not going to spend money on free agents like the Redskins used to ...

we have a lot of needs but these guys seem to be making sure that if they really find a player that they want they'll have the money to go get him


It looks like restraint and sanity, both of which are good things. I think its also smart to admit that we're not like "one good player" away from being good. It might make sense for the Broncos or Saints to drop $56m on a Jairus Byrd to put their team over the top. Definitely not the case in Washington.

Right ,we're not like "one good player" away from being good
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Team by team FA grades.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/pet ... honor-roll
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Once upon a time, the Redskins were huge players in free agency. Now they are a lot smarter. They signed seven free agents and four of them should be starters: Defensive tackle Jason Hatcher, receiver Andre Roberts, corner Tracy Porter and guard Shawn Lauvao. They also re-signed linebacker Perry Riley and corner DeAngelo Hall, two starters. I like what Washington did without a huge splash. Grade: A-
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In case you don't have an Insider account, here is ESPN's grade for the Skins in 2014 free agency:

http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/mike-sando/post?id=7907
Washington Redskins
Grade: C+

Key signings: CB Tracy Porter, DT Jason Hatcher, G Shawn Lauvao, S Brandon Meriweather, WR Santana Moss, WR Andre Roberts, LB Darryl Sharpton, LB Akeem Jordan
Key subtractions: DE Darryl Tapp, DL Adam Carriker, LB London Fletcher

The Redskins were quiet when the big money was spent early in free agency and have signed players to relatively modest deals. They went for quantity over quality, perhaps counter to expectations for a team with significant needs and a history of imprudent spending. I was fine with the approach. If we're going to blast Washington for overpaying in past years, we can’t downgrade the Redskins too much for showing restraint.

"Not bad," Polian said. "This one is a little bit like Jacksonville. They added people who can play for them who are system fits at reasonable prices. And they got rid of some guys who really could not play."

The Redskins also managed to retain the rights to Brian Orakpo via the franchise tag.

"They really like Jason Hatcher and feel like, if they get two years out of him, they are good, and three would be awesome," Riddick said. "What scares me is he has only one year of production. He just never previously got the kind of production he got this year, which speaks to how good Rod Marinelli is as a defensive line coach. Look at Henry Melton and Julius Peppers after Marinelli left Chicago."

The Redskins got a good special-teams value with Akeem Jordan, but they needed help in their secondary and didn't get enough of it. Porter is basically a nickel corner with injury concerns.

"I like the Hatcher, Jordan and Roberts signings," Riddick said. "They can get out of the Hatcher deal in the third year with minimal problems."


And here is the rest of the NFC East for your enjoyment:

Philadelphia Eagles
Grade: B

Key signings: FS Malcolm Jenkins, SS Nate Allen, RB Darren Sproles (acquired via trade)
Key subtractions: WR Jason Avant

The Eagles went into free agency without many objectives after re-signing left tackle Jason Peters, center Jason Kelce, and receivers Riley Cooper and Jeremy Maclin. They will go into the draft with relatively few needs after re-signing Allen and adding Jenkins from New Orleans.

"I was praising them before free agency even opened," Williamson said. "They kept their own, including a bunch of guys familiar with that offense now. I don't like Jenkins that much, but safety was their biggest need and it is filled now. They are set up to take the best defensive player available throughout the entire draft. That is how I look at it."

Adding Sproles from New Orleans seemed like a luxury buy, but, with Chip Kelly there, the Eagles can get great value out of Sproles' skill set.

"That one will be interesting to see," Riddick said. "There are some down there in New Orleans who thought Darren's best days were long behind him and the wall was approaching faster than outsiders think. They made a calculated bet, and we'll see which team is right there. You just know the Saints know more about him than anybody else knows about him."


New York Giants
Grade: C+

Key signings: CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, S Quintin Demps, G Geoff Schwartz, CB Walter Thurmond, RB Rashad Jennings, WR Mario Manningham, LB Jon Beason, CB Trumaine McBride, LB Jameel McClain, G John Jerry
Key subtractions: C David Baas, G Kevin Boothe, DE Justin Tuck, TE Brandon Myers, WR Hakeem Nicks, S Ryan Mundy, DT Linval Joseph, LB Keith Rivers

The Giants were busy, and they needed to be after a disastrous 2013 season shined light on just how bad the team has drafted recently.

"They have made some good signings, but it is usually not a recipe for immediate success and that is what it sounds like they need there," Riddick said. "I do like what they've done in the secondary even though I don't like DRC's contract. I really like Thurmond. They need to draft some offensive linemen they can develop because they have missed on so many. They have so many needs."

Rodgers-Cromartie is a 27-year-old cornerback with a Pro Bowl on his résumé, but that is only part of the story. He's also on his fourth team in six years, a reflection of his inability to consistently meet expectations. Rodgers-Cromartie seemed like an ideal candidate for a pay-as-you-go contract. Instead, he got a $10 million signing bonus that will create a cap burden if the team needs to sever ties in the next couple of seasons.

The Giants did get better on their offensive line. "I'm a fan of Schwartz," Williamson said. "Jennings is a quality player -- not young, but with a lot of tread left. They did not go big in terms of money, but they got quality guys. With the moves they made, they said, 'Yeah, we are not a piece or two away. We need five starters in free agency and none will be Pro Bowlers, but give me a lineman, a corner, etc.' They are not huge winners or losers, but I approve of their approach."


Dallas Cowboys
Grade: D

Key signings: DT Henry Melton, DE Jeremy Mincey, QB Brandon Weeden
Key subtractions: DE DeMarcus Ware, WR Miles Austin, DT Jason Hatcher

Getting Melton on a one-year deal carrying little risk to the team provided at least some light in a dark offseason for the cap-strapped Cowboys. However, there are some rumblings that Melton could be a bit behind schedule in his rehab. Overall, the Cowboys lost more than they gained. Releasing Ware would have made more sense in retrospect if the team could have re-signed him to a more reasonable deal. Instead, the Cowboys watched their most accomplished pass-rusher bolt for Denver while Hatcher, their leading sacker in 2013, signed with Washington.

We could applaud the Cowboys for showing welcome restraint in player valuation, but the reality is that Dallas was hamstrung.

"I lump Carolina and Dallas into a similar category because they're so strapped under the cap that there is little they could do, but the critical difference is that the current Carolina regime is picking up the pieces from Marty Hurney while the Cowboys are dealing with self-inflicted cap woes," Yates said.

The Cowboys have continually bought flexibility in the short term by pushing cap charges into the future. It caught up to them in this free-agent signing period when the team ran out of contracts to revisit.

"It's amazing how many bad deals they have done over the years," Riddick said.
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Dallas Cowboys
Grade: D

Key signings: DT Henry Melton, DE Jeremy Mincey, QB Brandon Weeden
Key subtractions: DE DeMarcus Ware, WR Miles Austin, DT Jason Hatcher

Getting Melton on a one-year deal carrying little risk to the team provided at least some light in a dark offseason for the cap-strapped Cowboys. However, there are some rumblings that Melton could be a bit behind schedule in his rehab. Overall, the Cowboys lost more than they gained. Releasing Ware would have made more sense in retrospect if the team could have re-signed him to a more reasonable deal. Instead, the Cowboys watched their most accomplished pass-rusher bolt for Denver while Hatcher, their leading sacker in 2013, signed with Washington.

We could applaud the Cowboys for showing welcome restraint in player valuation, but the reality is that Dallas was hamstrung.

"I lump Carolina and Dallas into a similar category because they're so strapped under the cap that there is little they could do, but the critical difference is that the current Carolina regime is picking up the pieces from Marty Hurney while the Cowboys are dealing with self-inflicted cap woes," Yates said.

The Cowboys have continually bought flexibility in the short term by pushing cap charges into the future. It caught up to them in this free-agent signing period when the team ran out of contracts to revisit.

"It's amazing how many bad deals they have done over the years," Riddick said.

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I am SO enjoying the Cowboys off season. I cannot wait to play them this year.
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Good job. :up:
A minor detail, but Orakpo is no longer franchised; he signed a one year deal.
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Deadskins wrote:Good job. :up:
A minor detail, but Orakpo is no longer franchised; he signed a one year deal.


Please edify. I'm not understanding the difference. He signed the franchise tender, right?

With the Redskins seemingly OK with letting linebacker Brian Orakpo play under the franchise tag tender for $11.45 million, they also don't seem willing at the moment to give him a long-term extension.

Thus, this latest bit of news Thursday makes sense.

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The Redskins and Orakpo have until July 15 to negotiate a long-term deal. Otherwise, Orakpo would have to play under the franchise tag tender. Washington coach Jay Gruden said this week at the owners' meetings that the team is OK with having Orakpo play on the short-team deal.

"We'd like to get him here for as many years as we can, but right now I wouldn't mind letting him play out this franchise tag and see what happens,” Gruden told reporters. “He's a talented player. I think he can do a little bit better. [We] can ask more of him where he could be more productive as far as getting his hand down and rushing more instead of dropping [into pass coverage] quite so much. We have high hopes for Brian and whether the deal gets done or not, we know he'll be a big part of our success [in 2014].”
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Deadskins wrote:Good job. :up:
A minor detail, but Orakpo is no longer franchised; he signed a one year deal.


Please edify. I'm not understanding the difference. He signed the franchise tender, right?

With the Redskins seemingly OK with letting linebacker Brian Orakpo play under the franchise tag tender for $11.45 million, they also don't seem willing at the moment to give him a long-term extension.

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BREAKING: OLB Brian Orakpo (@rak98) signs his one-year franchise tender at #Redskins Park. Welcome back! #HTTR
9:09 AM - 27 Mar 2014

The Redskins and Orakpo have until July 15 to negotiate a long-term deal. Otherwise, Orakpo would have to play under the franchise tag tender. Washington coach Jay Gruden said this week at the owners' meetings that the team is OK with having Orakpo play on the short-team deal.

"We'd like to get him here for as many years as we can, but right now I wouldn't mind letting him play out this franchise tag and see what happens,” Gruden told reporters. “He's a talented player. I think he can do a little bit better. [We] can ask more of him where he could be more productive as far as getting his hand down and rushing more instead of dropping [into pass coverage] quite so much. We have high hopes for Brian and whether the deal gets done or not, we know he'll be a big part of our success [in 2014].”

I didn't realize he signed the tender, I thought they had just negotiated a one year deal, in which case, we would have our franchise tag back. My bad.
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