Legit and realistic prediction

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:43 am

StorminMormon86 wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:and the other 3 guys in my foursome

That just doesn't sound right.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:17 pm

emoses14 wrote:
StorminMormon86 wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:and the other 3 guys in my foursome

That just doesn't sound right.

it's called GOLF :roll:

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:26 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
emoses14 wrote:
StorminMormon86 wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:and the other 3 guys in my foursome

That just doesn't sound right.

it's called GOLF

What's that stand for?

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:15 pm

Gay Or Lesbian Freaks?

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:22 pm

Deadskins wrote:Gay Or Lesbian Freaks?

L M A O !

langleyparkjoe · Post by **langleyparkjoe** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:22 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
emoses14 wrote:
StorminMormon86 wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:and the other 3 guys in my foursome

That just doesn't sound right.

it's called GOLF

LOL!! still didn't sound right though

StorminMormon86 · Post by **StorminMormon86** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:54 pm

Deadskins wrote:Gay Or Lesbian Freaks?

Guys Only Love Fellas?

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:08 pm

langleyparkjoe wrote:
Deadskins wrote:Gay Or Lesbian Freaks?

L M A O !

that's close ... I sometimes play in a mixed foursome ... and 1 of them is gay :twisted:

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:47 pm

StorminMormon86 wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:let me clarify - I am not suggesting that this year's record is not a factor - it is!
my point is more that this year's team is ('on paper') better than the team we had last year ... AND ... we have yet to see them play at the level that this year's team is capable of

I think that is going to happen and I look for a number of players to really lift their games and play at a much better level than we've seen so far

I also look for the DC and OC to do a better job getting ready for the pukes

This team "on paper" may be better, however having a 1 legged QB that is no longer a threat, that also makes this offense one dimensional pretty much proves that on paper means nothing. Heck how many teams have we had "on paper" made us Super Bowl Champions in May and June? Let's face facts that with a normal drop back passer this team is mediocre at best and having Jim Haslett as our Defensive Coordinator doesn't help matters either.

It pains me to think it, but the above post is exactly right about our offense, which I think was shown in the preseason when we moved the ball with Pat White but not Grossman. We need a running RG3. We also need a competitive defense. The Raider game proved nothing about our D, Any team in the NFL could have stopped them.

We moved the ball just fine with Kirk Cousins in the preseason.

We barely got a glimpse of him in preseason.

crazyhorse1 · Post by **crazyhorse1** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:18 pm

StorminMormon86 wrote:
riggofan wrote:
StorminMormon86 wrote:
crazyhorse1 wrote:
DaSkinz Baby wrote:
SkinsJock wrote:let me clarify - I am not suggesting that this year's record is not a factor - it is!
my point is more that this year's team is ('on paper') better than the team we had last year ... AND ... we have yet to see them play at the level that this year's team is capable of

I think that is going to happen and I look for a number of players to really lift their games and play at a much better level than we've seen so far

I also look for the DC and OC to do a better job getting ready for the pukes

This team "on paper" may be better, however having a 1 legged QB that is no longer a threat, that also makes this offense one dimensional pretty much proves that on paper means nothing. Heck how many teams have we had "on paper" made us Super Bowl Champions in May and June? Let's face facts that with a normal drop back passer this team is mediocre at best and having Jim Haslett as our Defensive Coordinator doesn't help matters either.

It pains me to think it, but the above post is exactly right about our offense, which I think was shown in the preseason when we moved the ball with Pat White but not Grossman. We need a running RG3. We also need a competitive defense. The Raider game proved nothing about our D, Any team in the NFL could have stopped them.

We moved the ball just fine with Kirk Cousins in the preseason.

Let me correct this for you.

We moved the ball just fine with Kirk Cousins in the preseason.

lol. In the freaking preseason.

You missed the point. He said we moved the ball in the preseason with White because of White's ability to run, and that Griffin needs to do the same. Cousins did not run, and we moved the ball. Yes it was preseason. But we don't need Griffin to run to move the ball.

If you're talking about my point or eluding to it, you missed my point. I'll make myself clearer.
The Skin's offense works better with a quarterback who can both pass and run than it does with a drop-backer passer..

I didn't say anything about White's ability. The new offense,as designed, works better with last year's offense than our traditional offense, all other things being equal. As a matter of fact, White, whose ability is limited, worked the last year's offense successfully, in spite of his limitations. I take this as proof that we should go back to last year's playbook, with the caveat that RG3 should learn to go out of bounds or slide, or refrain from doing any thing really stupid. We are simply not designed for or equipped to support a drop-backer passer, which will become evident soon enough if Cousins becomes the number one. Our line is like a sieve and we have only one quality receiver

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:55 pm

SkinsJock wrote:
langleyparkjoe wrote:
Deadskins wrote:Gay Or Lesbian Freaks?

L M A O !

that's close ... I sometimes play in a mixed foursome ... and 1 of them is gay

Is it you? :lol:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:20 pm

actually a couple of the girls I like playing golf with are 'partners' ... :lol:

I don't think any of the guys are gay ... at least they don't own up to it :lol:

bot

I think the Redskins are going to start using more of the plays that RG3 had success with last season
We don't need to have him run too much but we do know that what we're seeing so far is not that effective

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:03 pm

Why is rgiii to blame for the d giving up more yards then almost any team ever? He td to int ratio isn't the best but its faaaaar from the worst. Some people act like we are seeing him play like Eli right now. If your expectations weren't reasonable coming into the season that's on you.... Putting up over 300 yards every game besides one w no preseason (games, first team reps, full contact drills, film review after games- a lot more then just the 5-7 quarters some think he only missed) and not injuring a leg he has to still be wary about is about as much as I could ask for. His timing has improved every week, his trust in the knee, his pocket awareness, his scrambling... He even kept the ball last week on a read option play.
For those that expected the best qb performance ever week one coming off an injury that serious, you deserve to be disappointed. We all had hopebut yall start to sound like the media harping on him... He's far from the worst in the NFL and still the best qb we've had in decades AS IS. The only better play weve had was from him last year. Bob will be fine, as for unrealistic expectations- I predict he will set the bar higher every week... Hopefully he starts w a repeat of turkey day at dullass next wek!

Kilmer72 · Post by **Kilmer72** » Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:20 pm

Robert is getting valuable experience right now as a pocket passer. People are upset because he doesn't look super human. Robert has the "It Factor" All will be fine and right now Robert is our best chance to win. IMO

I predict before this season ends we will get excited about how we are playing and see playoffs in the horizon.

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:57 am

Kilmer72 wrote:Robert is getting valuable experience right now as a pocket passer. People are upset because he doesn't look super human. Robert has the "It Factor" All will be fine and right now Robert is our best chance to win. IMO

I predict before this season ends we will get excited about how we are playing and see playoffs in the horizon.

Common sense will get you no where here Kilmer! Lmao

I'm excited to watch RGiii hone his pocket passing skills... His accuracy and arm strength have always been on point, but he's needed to develop those skills he never had to in NCAA. He is imo reading defenses better at the line and changing plays based on his read.If the end product is an accurate pocket passer with Olympic speed then we will run the tables for years to come.
Thursday night showed how dangerous it is for a qb (much less the hopes of a generation) to be running down the field. We need rgiii to extend plays, make a small gain here and there- not get the extra yards that Morris and Garçon can on the next play.

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:20 am

RG3's play at QB is definitely getting better but he's not playing as well as he can and while part of that is due to some changes in the game plan, part of it is also due to his mechanics and how he 'feels' IMO
I am not unhappy about RG3 at all - I think he's fine ... I just know that he's got a lot more in the tank

fact is, the whole team can (and will) play better :lol:

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:33 pm

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Why is rgiii to blame for the d giving up more yards then almost any team ever? He td to int ratio isn't the best but its faaaaar from the worst. Some people act like we are seeing him play like Eli right now. If your expectations weren't reasonable coming into the season that's on you.... Putting up over 300 yards every game besides one w no preseason (games, first team reps, full contact drills, film review after games- a lot more then just the 5-7 quarters some think he only missed) and not injuring a leg he has to still be wary about is about as much as I could ask for. His timing has improved every week, his trust in the knee, his pocket awareness, his scrambling... He even kept the ball last week on a read option play.
For those that expected the best qb performance ever week one coming off an injury that serious, you deserve to be disappointed. We all had hopebut yall start to sound like the media harping on him... He's far from the worst in the NFL and still the best qb we've had in decades AS IS. The only better play weve had was from him last year. Bob will be fine, as for unrealistic expectations- I predict he will set the bar higher every week... Hopefully he starts w a repeat of turkey day at dullass next wek!

I don't think anyone thinks RGIII is responsible for our D. But he is 100% responsible for our limp offense.

I think most people's expectations (at least mine) were set by what we/they were being TOLD by RGIII and the franchise about RGIII's health and progress (coupled with his output last year). And RGIII wasn't putting up 300+ yards last season. I don't care about his numbers as much as his ability to make plays and be a "playmaker". That said, if RGIII is truly going to become a "pocket-passer" he better up his passing #s in order to make up for what he did with his legs. If he stays "as is" (ie, the past 4 games), he'll be gone by 2016.

If RGIII is worried about injuring his leg, he shouldn't be playing.

I personally didn't expect him to have a "the best qb performance every week" --- but I didn't expect him to be dead last out of all starting (not benched or replacing a benched player) QBs in QBR this season either......... "As is" he is not the best QB we've in decades (Rypien and Johnson were better) --- and the others isn't saying much........ Improvement needs to be had, and I agree it will come slow and steady.

That said, don't get the wrong idea --- I personally believe this weekend will be the "turn-around" game for RGIII. I have a feeling we'll start to see him make "the turn" against DAL (at least hopefully).

Deadskins · Post by **Deadskins** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:42 pm

markshark84 wrote:I don't think anyone thinks RGIII is responsible for our D. But he is 100% responsible for our limp offense.

Please!

Countertrey · Post by **Countertrey** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:00 pm

markshark84 wrote:I personally believe this weekend will be the "turn-around" game for RGIII. I have a feeling we'll start to see him make "the turn" against DAL (at least hopefully).

Your earlier "100% on him" hyperbole aside... I think he started to turn the corner in the Detroit game...

cowboykillerzRGiii · Post by **cowboykillerzRGiii** » Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:36 pm

13-3

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:02 am

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:13-3

I'll have what he's drinking.

emoses14 · Post by **emoses14** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:03 am

Countertrey wrote:
markshark84 wrote:I personally believe this weekend will be the "turn-around" game for RGIII. I have a feeling we'll start to see him make "the turn" against DAL (at least hopefully).

Your earlier "100% on him" hyperbole aside... I think he started to turn the corner in the Detroit game...

Agreed. Kept it going in Oakland, too. Be interesting to see how the narrative of this year changes, if at all, if he continues his improved play against Ttit. Especially if Skins win.

riggofan · Post by **riggofan** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:05 am

emoses14 wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
markshark84 wrote:I personally believe this weekend will be the "turn-around" game for RGIII. I have a feeling we'll start to see him make "the turn" against DAL (at least hopefully).

Your earlier "100% on him" hyperbole aside... I think he started to turn the corner in the Detroit game...

Agreed. Kept it going in Oakland, too. Be interesting to see how the narrative of this year changes, if at all, if he continues his improved play against Ttit. Especially if Skins win.

Oh man, if RGIII beats Dallas on Sunday, you know exactly what the narrative will be on Monday morning.

RGIII COMEBACK!

FRANCHISE QB RGIII!

HEALED!!!

SkinsJock · Post by **SkinsJock** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:22 am

riggofan wrote: ... Oh man, if RGIII beats Dallas on Sunday, you know exactly what the narrative will be on Monday morning.

RGIII COMEBACK! ... FRANCHISE QB RGIII! ... HEALED!!!

ain't it the truth ...

I'm looking for more from our offense and our defense ... I think that RG3 will continue to evolve into the playmaker and 'type' of QB that Kyle and Mike want - this is a kid with a lot of talent and a lot of 'football smarts'

we are hurting a little as a team because of the Mara cap BS but I'm still hopeful that we will continue to see better play - it can't get much worse, can it

1 game at a time - BEAT DALLAS

markshark84 · Post by **markshark84** » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:26 pm

riggofan wrote:
emoses14 wrote:
Countertrey wrote:
markshark84 wrote:I personally believe this weekend will be the "turn-around" game for RGIII. I have a feeling we'll start to see him make "the turn" against DAL (at least hopefully).

Your earlier "100% on him" hyperbole aside... I think he started to turn the corner in the Detroit game...

Agreed. Kept it going in Oakland, too. Be interesting to see how the narrative of this year changes, if at all, if he continues his improved play against Ttit. Especially if Skins win.

Oh man, if RGIII beats Dallas on Sunday, you know exactly what the narrative will be on Monday morning.

RGIII COMEBACK!

FRANCHISE QB RGIII!

HEALED!!!

Wouldn't that be correct? However, if RGIII played well, it would be more of a recovery and not a comeback.

RGIII was a franchise QB last year. He still has that ability; it's just a recovery process --- but that doesn't mean our offensive issues don't stem from the fact he's not performing at the level he was last year.

He's still our franchise; he's just not playing well. And improvement/recoery aren't gauranteed. Besides, if I really thought RGIII was done, you'd know it -- it would be similar to my Jason Campbell posts from 2007-2009.