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Irn-Bru wrote:hakeemthedream, good game and thanks for stopping by. I would say "best of luck," but of course I actually hope your franchise crashes and burns harder than a December Dallas Cowboys meltdown.

Good game guys. We pulled that out of our asses, extremely even game all the way through. No reason you shouldn't be optimistic about the future, and the rest of this season for that matter. That 4th and 10 play still has me shaking my head. Good luck the rest of the way.

Deadskins wrote:That wasn't RG3's fault, or really Sheli's, for that matter. Any NFL QB could have made that pass.

Let's not be sore losers here. I wish the Skins had won but it was a great game. Eli showed why he won two SBs with the Giants and he is a great quarterback. We should acknowledge it because it is the classy thing to do.

Don't. Get me wrong I hope the Skins spank them in the rematch.

We should pretend Sheli is great because it's classy????


Just sayin'...

Leg whip called against the Skins this week. Tripping called against the Niners last week. Most refs take it easy on the Gints because most refs look like Tom Coughlin.

Burgundy&Wha? wrote:Leg whip called against the Skins this week. Tripping called against the Niners last week. Most refs take it easy on the Gints because most refs look like Tom Coughlin.

Lmfao!
Classic!

Bishop Hammer wrote:Eli showed why he won two SBs with the Giants

Yep, a lucky play on offense and a good defense.

Bishop Hammer wrote:and he is a great quarterback.

OK, you lost me there. As I said, any NFL QB could have made that throw.

cvillehog wrote:

Deadskins wrote:

SkinsJock wrote:Eli would not have done as well as RG3 did today

Sheli didn't do as well as RG3 did today.

Well, he won, so…

He didn't win, the team did...

Deadskins wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:

Deadskins wrote:Wasn't saying you said that. I was saying the Redskins really won the game.

So I was wrong? Stretch dude. Big time.

Yes, because your prediction was based on their being the better team, not that we would get screwed on bad calls and non-calls all game, or turn the ball over four times.

Anyway, we have no one to blame but ourselves, for turning the ball over like we did, and not shutting down that last play. It should have never come down to some bad calls. If we protect the ball, we win going away, and the refs can't stop it.

I say that the lesser team won yesterday, but stuff like that happens. That's why they play the games.

Still reaching Deadman. I was flat out right.

Deadskins wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:Do you honestly think we are going to win every game we play?

Yes, yes I do.

Hello?

It's quite clear who was wrong.

No one knows what will happen in advance and no one knows what would have happened if ...

Your post above is moronic in stark contrast to most of your stuff. You should give this one a rest. We outplayed them at the line of scrimmage and lost. We do that often enough that one should factor it in to any pregame analysis. At least one bad call hurt us when it was made. We simply don't know how the game would have played out after the "leg whip" etc. It's all conjecture.

Smmfh.. pick the gnats, then defend them when they pull off a squeaker?.. a game we should have won and played damn good in?
Damn doode, are you ok? I mean that with sincerity bro...

Sorry Darth, I have to agree with ckR on this one.

Side note: When did you get your name changed, ckR? I noticed the RGIII in FF, but didn't see it on the site until just now. Hope this doesn't mean you have to start over in your avatar quest.

cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Smmfh.. pick the gnats, then defend them when they pull off a squeaker?.. a game we should have won and played damn good in?
Damn doode, are you ok? I mean that with sincerity bro...

I did not defend the Giants.

I defended my analysis .. which ... btw ... proved not to be inacurate.

As I said, no one was sadder than I when Cruz caught that last bomb.

It's almost as if you think I wanted to lose and was glad we did.

smh back at ya

PS - I'm fine.

Deadskins wrote:Sorry Darth, I have to agree with ckR on this one.

Side note: When did you get your name changed, ckR? I noticed the RGIII in FF, but didn't see it on the site until just now. Hope this doesn't mean you have to start over in your avatar quest.

I'm not sure what you're agreeing with but that's cool.

DarthMonk

Countertrey wrote:We should pretend Sheli is great because it's classy????


Just sayin'...

I don't think anyone has to "pretend" that Eli is a great QB. In 7 seasons, he has taken his team to the playoffs 5 times and won 2 SBs. In his first full season he took a team that was 6-10 in the prior year to 11-5 and has never had a losing season in New York since becoming the starter. He has also made 2 pro bowls and has 2 SB MVP awards. He currently leads the league in passing yards, 7th in TDs, and 10th in QB Rating.

Not sure how that doesn't qualify as "great". If it doesn't, I would love to know what does -- because if so there are only about 5-10 QBs in the history of the NFL that may fit the definition.

markshark84 wrote:

Countertrey wrote:We should pretend Sheli is great because it's classy????


Just sayin'...

I don't think anyone has to "pretend" that Eli is a great QB. In 7 seasons, he has taken his team to the playoffs 5 times and won 2 SBs. In his first full season he took a team that was 6-10 in the prior year to 11-5 and has never had a losing season in New York since becoming the starter. He has also made 2 pro bowls and has 2 SB MVP awards. He currently leads the league in passing yards, 7th in TDs, and 10th in QB Rating.

Not sure how that doesn't qualify as "great". If it doesn't, I would love to know what does -- because if so there are only about 5-10 QBs in the history of the NFL that may fit the definition.

Don't confuse what the team has done with what one player has done...is Eli responsible for the team's success? For some of it, certainly, but don't give me this garbage that Eli's had a winning season every year and he's won 2 SBs....HE didn't do that, the TEAM did it...if the Redskins were as good of a TEAM as the Giants, they'd be winning SBs too...

grampi wrote:

markshark84 wrote:

Countertrey wrote:We should pretend Sheli is great because it's classy????


Just sayin'...

I don't think anyone has to "pretend" that Eli is a great QB. In 7 seasons, he has taken his team to the playoffs 5 times and won 2 SBs. In his first full season he took a team that was 6-10 in the prior year to 11-5 and has never had a losing season in New York since becoming the starter. He has also made 2 pro bowls and has 2 SB MVP awards. He currently leads the league in passing yards, 7th in TDs, and 10th in QB Rating.

Not sure how that doesn't qualify as "great". If it doesn't, I would love to know what does -- because if so there are only about 5-10 QBs in the history of the NFL that may fit the definition.

Don't confuse what the team has done with what one player has done...is Eli responsible for the team's success? For some of it, certainly, but don't give me this garbage that Eli's had a winning season every year and he's won 2 SBs....HE didn't do that, the TEAM did it...if the Redskins were as good of a TEAM as the Giants, they'd be winning SBs too...

Seriously! If that was Peyton, and not Sheli, the G-strings would have won 5 or 6 SBs instead of two.

Hey, another giant fan here !

The game on the 21st was and excellent game , lived up to the hype. Now , I realize you did not get the outcome you desired, we did . that being said, here is a little gift from Eli to you guys. keep it or add it to your corner backs playbook , quote:
How to win... “I didn’t think it took a rocket scientist to figure it out either. I had a guy running open and I hit him.” -- Eli Manning. football 101!


next football clinic will be in Dec. DeAngelo can come a little early and takes come notes! all welcome!

tcseacliff wrote:Hey, another giant fan here !

The game on the 21st was and excellent game , lived up to the hype. Now , I realize you did not get the outcome you desired, we did . that being said, here is a little gift from Eli to you guys. keep it or add it to your corner backs playbook , quote:
How to win... “I didn’t think it took a rocket scientist to figure it out either. I had a guy running open and I hit him.” -- Eli Manning. football 101!


next football clinic will be in Dec. DeAngelo can come a little early and takes come notes! all welcome!

Yeah we get that but, it might be premature to gloat when there is still another game to be played. Will you come back here and say I am an @ss and I shouldn't be taunting Skins fans?

Deadskins wrote:

grampi wrote:

markshark84 wrote:

Countertrey wrote:We should pretend Sheli is great because it's classy????


Just sayin'...

I don't think anyone has to "pretend" that Eli is a great QB. In 7 seasons, he has taken his team to the playoffs 5 times and won 2 SBs. In his first full season he took a team that was 6-10 in the prior year to 11-5 and has never had a losing season in New York since becoming the starter. He has also made 2 pro bowls and has 2 SB MVP awards. He currently leads the league in passing yards, 7th in TDs, and 10th in QB Rating.

Not sure how that doesn't qualify as "great". If it doesn't, I would love to know what does -- because if so there are only about 5-10 QBs in the history of the NFL that may fit the definition.

Don't confuse what the team has done with what one player has done...is Eli responsible for the team's success? For some of it, certainly, but don't give me this garbage that Eli's had a winning season every year and he's won 2 SBs....HE didn't do that, the TEAM did it...if the Redskins were as good of a TEAM as the Giants, they'd be winning SBs too...

Seriously! If that was Peyton, and not Sheli, the G-strings would have won 5 or 6 SBs instead of two.

There is no way to know, but I doubt that very seriously!
Eli might have won 5 or 6 with Indy, but that is just speculation, just like yours was.

When are some people going to let go of the retarded stance that Eli is not a great QB? He won two SBs with the Giants and yes they has a good team and yes the team had a lot to do with it, but make no mistake they don't win them with out him!

It isn't like the Giants are the 82, 87, or 91 Skins where all they needed was competent QB play. No, the Giants needed exceptional, even great play from their QB. They had many holes all over that team. Sure their pass rush is fantastic, but their secondary was well below average, and their LBs weren't anything specially. They had a terrible OL and average run game and their WRs looked better than what they are because of Manning.

“I didn’t think it took a rocket scientist to figure it out either. I had a guy running open and I hit him.” -- Eli Manning.
If the pass had been any crappier, Cruz couldn't have caught it. As it was, he had to slow way down and catch it at his hip. Any NFL QB could have made that pass. Why everyone gives Sheli credit for these amazing plays his receivers make is beyond me.

Deadskins wrote:

grampi wrote:

markshark84 wrote:

Countertrey wrote:We should pretend Sheli is great because it's classy????


Just sayin'...

I don't think anyone has to "pretend" that Eli is a great QB. In 7 seasons, he has taken his team to the playoffs 5 times and won 2 SBs. In his first full season he took a team that was 6-10 in the prior year to 11-5 and has never had a losing season in New York since becoming the starter. He has also made 2 pro bowls and has 2 SB MVP awards. He currently leads the league in passing yards, 7th in TDs, and 10th in QB Rating.

Not sure how that doesn't qualify as "great". If it doesn't, I would love to know what does -- because if so there are only about 5-10 QBs in the history of the NFL that may fit the definition.

Don't confuse what the team has done with what one player has done...is Eli responsible for the team's success? For some of it, certainly, but don't give me this garbage that Eli's had a winning season every year and he's won 2 SBs....HE didn't do that, the TEAM did it...if the Redskins were as good of a TEAM as the Giants, they'd be winning SBs too...

Seriously! If that was Peyton, and not Sheli, the G-strings would have won 5 or 6 SBs instead of two.

There is no way to know, but I doubt that very seriously!
Eli might have won 5 or 6 with Indy, but that is just speculation, just like yours was.

When are some people going to let go of the retarded stance that Eli is not a great QB? He won two SBs with the Giants and yes they has a good team and yes the team had a lot to do with it, but make no mistake they don't win them with out him!

It isn't like the Giants are the 82, 87, or 91 Skins where all they needed was competent QB play. No, the Giants needed exceptional, even great play from their QB. They had many holes all over that team. Sure their pass rush is fantastic, but their secondary was well below average, and their LBs weren't anything specially. They had a terrible OL and average run game and their WRs looked better than what they are because of Manning.

skinsfan#33 wrote:When are some people going to let go of the retarded stance that Eli is not a great QB?

When some people stop giving him credit for the great plays other people make. Sheli is not a great QB. He's not even top 5.

Deadskins wrote:“I didn’t think it took a rocket scientist to figure it out either. I had a guy running open and I hit him.” -- Eli Manning.
If the pass had been any crappier, Cruz couldn't have caught it. As it was, he had to slow way down and catch it at his hip. Any NFL QB could have made that pass. Why everyone gives Sheli credit for these amazing plays his receivers make is beyond me.

what game were you watching ? you say Cruz had to "slow way down'? and , if that is the case, your man ,STILL couldn't make a play?! BHUAAHHHHH! nuff said! . yeah, this is not the Giants of the old days, who is, we have new rookies, same as you, injuries etc, and Eli was not on his best, but our TEAM stepped up to find a way to win, and it that means exploiting a lapse in defense, well, any given Sunday ! and this post was not a gloat. it was an olive branch, gave you a winning formula for your CB. sounds like they need it!

and last point, if Eli threw it crappier , Cruz would have missed it ? this is your idea of Redskins in-depth analysis? that is true for ANY pass! point is , it WAS a good throw, It WAS a good catch, FTW! and go back and read the beginning , I said it was an excellent game ,lived up to the hype, was not gloating, your CB Hill was complaining. where should I send the CHEESE for his WHINE?!!

Kilmer72 wrote:

tcseacliff wrote:Hey, another giant fan here !

The game on the 21st was and excellent game , lived up to the hype. Now , I realize you did not get the outcome you desired, we did . that being said, here is a little gift from Eli to you guys. keep it or add it to your corner backs playbook , quote:
How to win... “I didn’t think it took a rocket scientist to figure it out either. I had a guy running open and I hit him.” -- Eli Manning. football 101!


next football clinic will be in Dec. DeAngelo can come a little early and takes come notes! all welcome!

Yeah we get that but, it might be premature to gloat when there is still another game to be played. Will you come back here and say I am an @ss and I shouldn't be taunting Skins fans?

I was not gloating?? this game could have went either way, but fell our way, that is not a "gloat"? besides DeAngelo was taunting us with HIS premature statement. i expect things like he said from a drunk in the stands! I was really worried about if we were up to playing at the level you guys were at , with our injuries, but all around was a good game period!

tcseacliff wrote:

Kilmer72 wrote:

tcseacliff wrote:Hey, another giant fan here !

The game on the 21st was and excellent game , lived up to the hype. Now , I realize you did not get the outcome you desired, we did . that being said, here is a little gift from Eli to you guys. keep it or add it to your corner backs playbook , quote:
How to win... “I didn’t think it took a rocket scientist to figure it out either. I had a guy running open and I hit him.” -- Eli Manning. football 101!


next football clinic will be in Dec. DeAngelo can come a little early and takes come notes! all welcome!

Yeah we get that but, it might be premature to gloat when there is still another game to be played. Will you come back here and say I am an @ss and I shouldn't be taunting Skins fans?

I was not gloating?? this game could have went either way, but fell our way, that is not a "gloat"? besides DeAngelo was taunting us with HIS premature statement. i expect things like he said from a drunk in the stands! I was really worried about if we were up to playing at the level you guys were at , with our injuries, but all around was a good game period!

Ok you weren't. This is what I understand it to be http://www.thefreedictionary.com/gloating. Thats ok all forgiven. Welcome aboard.

my daughter is a jets fan (insert faceplant here!) she runs into that a lot. there are many Giant fans that are pure idiots. can't fix stupid!

http://www.giants.com/media-vault/video ... 9c3512bb17

do me a favor and watch this video! this is why we like Eli, no sass, so venom, to us real fans, a class act! impressive !