The Hogster wrote:Can people stop getting hot and heavy over the next "best thing" in the NFL??? Matt Flynn plays on one of the best offenses in Football. Chase Daniels would probably look like Elway if he got a chance to take the Ferrari for a spin too. That doesn't mean he can come here and lead this gaggle of cast offs.
Trade down in the Draft and get a QB and more help. This team is a reclamation project.
Mark Rypien being a great example. You have the rest of the pieces and give them enough time and even a mediocre QB can tear it up.
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The Hogster wrote:Can people stop getting hot and heavy over the next "best thing" in the NFL??? Matt Flynn plays on one of the best offenses in Football. Chase Daniels would probably look like Elway if he got a chance to take the Ferrari for a spin too. That doesn't mean he can come here and lead this gaggle of cast offs.
Trade down in the Draft and get a QB and more help. This team is a reclamation project.
Mark Rypien being a great example. You have the rest of the pieces and give them enough time and even a mediocre QB can tear it up.
I can't understand why people don't want Flynn on our roster next year. We can still draft a young QB (if Shanny sees the one he needs) AND acquire Flynn. Flynn would absolutely be an upgrade over Grossman. Flynn has backed up Aaron Rodgers his whole career. I wouldn't say that's exactly a fair fight for the starting role. He's simply never had a chance. The guy is young, has experience (9 TDs in 2 games), and would positively be an upgrade. I'd love to have him here next year.
StorminMormon86 wrote:I can't understand why people don't want Flynn on our roster next year. We can still draft a young QB (if Shanny sees the one he needs) AND acquire Flynn. Flynn would absolutely be an upgrade over Grossman. Flynn has backed up Aaron Rodgers his whole career. I wouldn't say that's exactly a fair fight for the starting role. He's simply never had a chance. The guy is young, has experience (9 TDs in 2 games), and would positively be an upgrade. I'd love to have him here next year.
I am not sure whether Flynn is an upgrade or not since his body of work is not very extensive --- HOWEVER, I have been told by an NFL source (the same one that earlier in the year warned me of John Beck) that the Packers have been high on Flynn since they drafted him late in 2008 (he was the reason they got rid of Brohm).
I wouldn't be surprised if the Skins offered him a contract. He may actually be the answer for the Skins. Although I am scared that the QB-desperate Skins are going to over-pay yet again (NFL messageboards are already blowing up with this assertion).... That said, I would prefer to see him over a number of the QBs currently listed in the 2012 draft.
StorminMormon86 wrote:I can't understand why people don't want Flynn on our roster next year. We can still draft a young QB (if Shanny sees the one he needs) AND acquire Flynn. Flynn would absolutely be an upgrade over Grossman. Flynn has backed up Aaron Rodgers his whole career. I wouldn't say that's exactly a fair fight for the starting role. He's simply never had a chance. The guy is young, has experience (9 TDs in 2 games), and would positively be an upgrade. I'd love to have him here next year.
I am not sure whether Flynn is an upgrade or not since his body of work is not very extensive --- HOWEVER, I have been told by an NFL source (the same one that earlier in the year warned me of John Beck) that the Packers have been high on Flynn since they drafted him late in 2008 (he was the reason they got rid of Brohm).
The best way to go so as not to get killed with giving up too many draft picks would be to sign Flynn and hope you can get Blackmon, Jeffrey, or maybe a Richardson in the draft. This offense needs a difference maker. Then in the 2nd round hope that Tannehill or Russell Wilson is available to back up, sit, and learn.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Skins offered him a contract. He may actually be the answer for the Skins. Although I am scared that the QB-desperate Skins are going to over-pay yet again (NFL messageboards are already blowing up with this assertion).... That said, I would prefer to see him over a number of the QBs currently listed in the 2012 draft.
I don't know what happened to my response, but it got sandwiched in that reply...
The best way to go so as not to get killed with giving up too many draft picks would be to sign Flynn and hope you can get Blackmon, Jeffrey, or maybe a Richardson in the draft. This offense needs a difference maker. Then in the 2nd round hope that Tannehill or Russell Wilson is available to back up, sit, and learn.
PAPDOG67 wrote:I don't know what happened to my response, but it got sandwiched in that reply...
The best way to go so as not to get killed with giving up too many draft picks would be to sign Flynn and hope you can get Blackmon, Jeffrey, or maybe a Richardson in the draft. This offense needs a difference maker. Then in the 2nd round hope that Tannehill or Russell Wilson is available to back up, sit, and learn.
Without an OL, having difference makers like Richardson or Blackmon won't matter too much. If we signed Flynn, the skins will still need to draft at least 1 OT and 2 OGs. I would focus on those before drafting players that cannot produce without an adequate OL.
With the emergence of Helu and Royster, drafting Richardson would make absolutely no sense. Getting another WR would be nice, but upgrading the QB and OL positions should be priorities number 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. The rest can wait.
The Hogster wrote:Can people stop getting hot and heavy over the next "best thing" in the NFL??? Matt Flynn plays on one of the best offenses in Football. Chase Daniels would probably look like Elway if he got a chance to take the Ferrari for a spin too. That doesn't mean he can come here and lead this gaggle of cast offs.
Trade down in the Draft and get a QB and more help. This team is a reclamation project.
Mark Rypien being a great example. You have the rest of the pieces and give them enough time and even a mediocre QB can tear it up.
+1
Though I essentially agree in principle (and have posted as much) the converse is also true. A great QB can tear it up with a medicore (not horrible) supporting cast.
We should also not forget that Ryp played great. He was not mediocre that year. But again, I essentially agree.
Question: Where would the Steelers and Redskins be if you could magically go back to opening day and exchange Rex and Ben? My guess is both teams would be around 8-8.
Again, I essentially agree with you but I also agree with Vince Lombardi - "The one great flaw in this great game is that the quarterback is too important."
I think you need a historically great team to make up for a sub-par QB if you are talking about being competitive in the postseason. Rex is clearly sub-par.
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PAPDOG67 wrote:I don't know what happened to my response, but it got sandwiched in that reply...
The best way to go so as not to get killed with giving up too many draft picks would be to sign Flynn and hope you can get Blackmon, Jeffrey, or maybe a Richardson in the draft. This offense needs a difference maker. Then in the 2nd round hope that Tannehill or Russell Wilson is available to back up, sit, and learn.
Without an OL, having difference makers like Richardson or Blackmon won't matter too much. If we signed Flynn, the skins will still need to draft at least 1 OT and 2 OGs. I would focus on those before drafting players that cannot produce without an adequate OL.
With the emergence of Helu and Royster, drafting Richardson would make absolutely no sense. Getting another WR would be nice, but upgrading the QB and OL positions should be priorities number 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. The rest can wait.
I agree about the O-line, but you can find good lineman in rounds 3-5 more so than you can find a HR hitter, and this offense desperately needs a HR hitter. Also, I like Helu and Royster, but the jury is still out on them.
PAPDOG67 wrote:The best way to go so as not to get killed with giving up too many draft picks would be to sign Flynn and hope you can get Blackmon, Jeffrey, or maybe a Richardson in the draft. This offense needs a difference maker. Then in the 2nd round hope that Tannehill or Russell Wilson is available to back up, sit, and learn.
+1
If we could sign Flynn at a bargain price, I'd say this is an ideal scenario.
PAPDOG67 wrote:The best way to go so as not to get killed with giving up too many draft picks would be to sign Flynn and hope you can get Blackmon, Jeffrey, or maybe a Richardson in the draft. This offense needs a difference maker. Then in the 2nd round hope that Tannehill or Russell Wilson is available to back up, sit, and learn.
+1
If we could sign Flynn at a bargain price, I'd say this is an ideal scenario.
You can bank on the fact that Flynn will not be signed at a bargain price. There are to many teams that cannot or will not move up in the draft to get one of the elite qb draft picks. All of these teams will be bidding for Flynn.
PAPDOG67 wrote:The best way to go so as not to get killed with giving up too many draft picks would be to sign Flynn and hope you can get Blackmon, Jeffrey, or maybe a Richardson in the draft. This offense needs a difference maker. Then in the 2nd round hope that Tannehill or Russell Wilson is available to back up, sit, and learn.
+1
If we could sign Flynn at a bargain price, I'd say this is an ideal scenario.
You can bank on the fact that Flynn will not be signed at a bargain price. There are to many teams that cannot or will not move up in the draft to get one of the elite qb draft picks. All of these teams will be bidding for Flynn.
And unless the team that signs Flynn strikes gold that team will be destined for mediocrity. The NFL is loaded with mediocre teams; most of whom have mediocre QBs.
GoSkins wrote:And unless the team that signs Flynn strikes gold that team will be destined for mediocrity. The NFL is loaded with mediocre teams; most of whom have mediocre QBs.
Nothing is guaranteed in the NFL. We could be destined for mediocrity if our QB that we draft is a bust. Everything is a gamble for us considering the spot we're in (without a QB).
GoSkins wrote:And unless the team that signs Flynn strikes gold that team will be destined for mediocrity. The NFL is loaded with mediocre teams; most of whom have mediocre QBs.
Nothing is guaranteed in the NFL. We could be destined for mediocrity if our QB that we draft is a bust. Everything is a gamble for us considering the spot we're in (without a QB).
Quite true. But, I would bet $ on Luck and Griffin before Flynn.
GoSkins wrote:Quite true. But, I would bet $ on Luck and Griffin before Flynn.
This is why I fear what the hell is going to happen with our QB situation next year. We are in quite the pickle going into the 2012 season. Why? Because we're not getting Luck. We were never even considered to be in the "Luck Lottery". That being said, Luck is being touted as the only "NFL ready" QB coming out of the draft. So that leaves RGIII as the only other viable first round QB option. And the rumor mill is saying that he'll be gone before the #6 pick. But even if we get RGIII, he's still not "NFL ready". So he'll be riding the pine going into next season. No matter who we decide to take first in the draft, WE STILL NEED A QB that can start here next year!!! Can you imagine if we draft RGIII and re-sign Grossman to be the bridge QB? Do you not think legions of suicides would start occuring all around the DC Metro area after the announcement was made that the Skins are heading into the 2012 season with Rex Grossman back as the starter? We need a QB (either a bridge QB or a possible franchise QB) that can start here next year and be effective. That certainly isn't Rex Grossman. That's why I think getting Matt Flynn would be ideal. We would lose nothing buy money (Snyder's got plenty), and if he doesn't work out, we still have the rookie to (hopefully) rely on. Matt Flynn is the only QB that will be available next year (that's worth getting) who can start for this team in week one.
This FO will NOT have Grossman as their starting QB next season
This FO will have a bunch of QBs here to evaluate and get ready during OTAs and training camp
With Grossman as QB we were not far off the pace this season and we did beat the giants twice
we will improve on the QB play this coming year
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
