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I like DD. He's not an elite guard, but you can't have all pro bowlers. DD is solid enough for me to not worry about his spot.

yupchagee wrote:

VetSkinsFan wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:

CanesSkins26 wrote:

IMO - we are in a lot of trouble when some fans here think that DD is our best O lineman - we are getting there but this will take time

I really don't get all the hate for DD. The guy is a very good NFL starter, yet a lot of people on here act like the guy shouldn't even be starting. Makes no sense at all.

Me either. I think he's a good NFL starter, and good enough that we shouldn't be looking to replace him. Many more holes on this team than LG.

My issue with this has less to do with Brown as a player, and more the fact that we are once again making a move for a guy that is looking for a big payday. I also find it interesting that a lot of people on here were up in arms when Rocky skipped OTAs because he wanted a new contract, yet Brown does the exact same thing, despite not playing in a single game last year, and nobody has a thing to say about that. An absurd double standard.

The one gigantic difference to me is that Brown is a 2 time pro bowler, and Rocky is an okay player. Plus, he's never played in a 3-4, so if we're going to keep that defense, we should make sure he fit it before we sign him to a long term contract, right?

Brown wanted long term, not big money.

And I believe Rocky's adequate in 4-3, and before we got Haslett, I'd say long term for Rocky. But with this nonsense with big Al, I agree with you CT. Make sure both parties are happy before the long term for Rocky.

I think he's more than just adequate. I also see no problem with him switching to 3/4 ILB. Football is football.

I personally like Rocky (I know I said Ricky earlier, stupid typos), but I didn't want a shades of gray argument, so I used adequate to be conservative.

PulpExposure wrote:The one gigantic difference to me is that Brown is a 2 time pro bowler, and Rocky is an okay player. Plus, he's never played in a 3-4, so if we're going to keep that defense, we should make sure he fit it before we sign him to a long term contract, right?

And I understand that, I understand both sides. I speaking purely from Rocky's commitment and performance thus far. He doesn't complain, he's avoided the injury big even tho people make him sound super frail. He's dependable... He deserves to be rewarded. I hope that he flourishes in the 3-4 but the Skins better be ready to pony up some cash if he does.

Rocky is a baller. I think a good performance in the 3-4 this year will warrant an extension.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:The one gigantic difference to me is that Brown is a 2 time pro bowler, and Rocky is an okay player. Plus, he's never played in a 3-4, so if we're going to keep that defense, we should make sure he fit it before we sign him to a long term contract, right?

And I understand that, I understand both sides. I speaking purely from Rocky's commitment and performance thus far. He doesn't complain, he's avoided the injury big even tho people make him sound super frail. He's dependable... He deserves to be rewarded. I hope that he flourishes in the 3-4 but the Skins better be ready to pony up some cash if he does.

Agreed with all of this. Happily, the pass rushers are the ones who get the big paydays in the 3-4, and Rocky won't be rushing the passer next year (assuming Orakpo and Carter will be from the LB spots).

I have quite a bit of confidence in Rocky, and I like his overall demeanor. I'm just not as convinced that he can make the transition to a 3-4 ILB from a 4-3 weakside OLB; that's not exactly the same thing (taking on guards versus playing in space). Of course, I'm assuming he'll be playing ILB next to Fletcher, with Carter and Orakpo playing OLB.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

PulpExposure wrote:The one gigantic difference to me is that Brown is a 2 time pro bowler, and Rocky is an okay player. Plus, he's never played in a 3-4, so if we're going to keep that defense, we should make sure he fit it before we sign him to a long term contract, right?

And I understand that, I understand both sides. I speaking purely from Rocky's commitment and performance thus far. He doesn't complain, he's avoided the injury big even tho people make him sound super frail. He's dependable... He deserves to be rewarded. I hope that he flourishes in the 3-4 but the Skins better be ready to pony up some cash if he does.

This is exactly why I think we should sign him long term now before the price goes up.