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Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:20 pm
by Walton40
R they going to throw to Cooley this half?

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:21 pm
by SCSkinsFan
Further evidence of an ungly call and lousy blocking.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:21 pm
by DaSkins24
Worst offensive line in football, by far.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:21 pm
by RedskinjXd
Walton40 wrote:R they going to throw to Cooley this half?


i think they have to keep him in to block on batistes side. he might be a non-factor unless samuels comes back.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:22 pm
by SCSkinsFan
Thank you for salvaging some points Swishy!

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:22 pm
by Walton40
Terrible play calling once again

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:26 pm
by tribeofjudah
Jcam you better start throwin some heat.... I've got Cooley and Moss riding on my fantasy team.....

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:26 pm
by dlc
SCSkinsFan wrote:
Paralis wrote:
SCSkinsFan wrote:Any run that involved straight ahead blocking would have been a better call, than a stretch run play that gives their D Line and LB's a chance to read and react.


That actually pretty much was straight ahead blocking. Heyer got blocked straight back.

It'll be talked about after the game. I'm curious to know where that was supposed to go. But it looked like Heyer getting destroyed pushed that outside rather than the playcall (nobody was pulling, from what I saw).


The safety run was anything but a straight ahead run. Lousy blocking yes!


Agreed it was a stretch play. The question is the predictable, safe play is to run up the middle. The really risky play is putting it in JC's hands and make him make a quick decision. A reasonable play with a little risk is the stretch. It's a hindsight is 20-20 reaction to say that it's a bad play call.

If they sold out towards the middle and he got stuffed, you would be making the criticism of predictability. If he let JC drop back and he throws a pick, you'd criticize him. At some point, the players have to make plays.

This call wasn't ridiculous nor predictable to expect the stretch play to get you a couple of yards, and perhaps a crease is made on a sell-out towards the middle where you get a big run.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:27 pm
by SCSkinsFan
Wow, a half-time lead. Hail to the Redskins!

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:28 pm
by brad7686
tribeofjudah wrote:Jcam you better start throwin some heat.... I've got Cooley and Moss riding on my fantasy team.....


I've always found it useful to avoid all redskins in fantasy.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:30 pm
by dlc
Just getting the sentiment on this board, who here really truly believes that better play calling will turn this team around?

Personally, I see a lot of players getting beat on plays that don't work. Switching the plays around I don't think would make a difference.

For example, I think the screen pass was the correct call many times, I just think the players do a terrible job of selling it. Perhaps this falls on the coaching staff for not teaching them well, but all these guys aren't newbies. They should be better at it.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:31 pm
by dlc
brad7686 wrote:
tribeofjudah wrote:Jcam you better start throwin some heat.... I've got Cooley and Moss riding on my fantasy team.....


I've always found it useful to avoid all redskins in fantasy.


Santana has been pretty good the past two weeks.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:31 pm
by SCSkinsFan
dlc wrote:
SCSkinsFan wrote:
Paralis wrote:
SCSkinsFan wrote:Any run that involved straight ahead blocking would have been a better call, than a stretch run play that gives their D Line and LB's a chance to read and react.


That actually pretty much was straight ahead blocking. Heyer got blocked straight back.

It'll be talked about after the game. I'm curious to know where that was supposed to go. But it looked like Heyer getting destroyed pushed that outside rather than the playcall (nobody was pulling, from what I saw).


The safety run was anything but a straight ahead run. Lousy blocking yes!


Agreed it was a stretch play. The question is the predictable, safe play is to run up the middle. The really risky play is putting it in JC's hands and make him make a quick decision. A reasonable play with a little risk is the stretch. It's a hindsight is 20-20 reaction to say that it's a bad play call.

If they sold out towards the middle and he got stuffed, you would be making the criticism of predictability. If he let JC drop back and he throws a pick, you'd criticize him. At some point, the players have to make plays.

This call wasn't ridiculous nor predictable to expect the stretch play to get you a couple of yards, and perhaps a crease is made on a sell-out towards the middle where you get a big run.


I think the real point here is that the call was on 2nd down, not 3rd down.
Safety and predictability at that postion on the field is accepatable. Another sneak by JC (he just gained 3 yards before the safety) would have even been better to get some beathing room. I did not lioke the strech run play call down there.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:32 pm
by RedskinsFreak
dlc wrote:Just getting the sentiment on this board, who here really truly believes that better play calling will turn this team around?

Personally, I see a lot of players getting beat on plays that don't work. Switching the plays around I don't think would make a difference.

For example, I think the screen pass was the correct call many times, I just think the players do a terrible job of selling it. Perhaps this falls on the coaching staff for not teaching them well, but all these guys aren't newbies. They should be better at it.

Winning with this roster is kinda like trying to win a NASCAR race in a Hyundai.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:36 pm
by SCSkinsFan
RedskinsFreak wrote:
dlc wrote:Just getting the sentiment on this board, who here really truly believes that better play calling will turn this team around?

Personally, I see a lot of players getting beat on plays that don't work. Switching the plays around I don't think would make a difference.

For example, I think the screen pass was the correct call many times, I just think the players do a terrible job of selling it. Perhaps this falls on the coaching staff for not teaching them well, but all these guys aren't newbies. They should be better at it.

Winning with this roster is kinda like trying to win a NASCAR race in a Hyundai.


What's the old saying? Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice..........
That's why the screen pass was not the best call there.

Obviously lousy blocking affects JZ's playcalling. You can pretty see the lack of faith showing up in his play calling.

One problem feeds off of the other.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:39 pm
by SCSkinsFan
RedskinjXd wrote:
Walton40 wrote:R they going to throw to Cooley this half?


i think they have to keep him in to block on batistes side. he might be a non-factor unless samuels comes back.


Reading some of the P-Cat Blogs earlier this week, they said that they were definitely going to concentrate on taking Cooley out of the game. And, now he probably is being called to add some needed blocking help.

Someone else is definitely goiing to have to step up.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:41 pm
by RayNAustin
I don't care who you are or how your blocking is ... you don't run a stretch play when your running from inside your own end zone. Terrible call .. under any circumstances.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:43 pm
by SCSkinsFan
I've got to say again that the Skins are getting good run yardage running off M Williams side.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:43 pm
by SCSkinsFan
And our pass pro folds like a house of cards again. Mason, et al, steamrolled

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:44 pm
by Fab5Kuluna
OL just sucks

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:45 pm
by SCSkinsFan
Another pass route 4 yds short again.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:46 pm
by RedskinjXd
we need bo jackson from tecmo bowl. he was the one guy who could beat the defense when your opponent picked your play.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:49 pm
by SCSkinsFan
MS45 down field illegally. GP4's slow delivery probably didn't help his timing. And then he knows it in the Endzone. Back to schooling the pooch punt and the corner kick. Or, hope Hunter the Punter gets well soon.

so ugly

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:50 pm
by cleg
For a brief moment I thought this was the game that the team would put together a little something. But, I guess when you don't have an O Line there is only so much you can do.

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:52 pm
by RedskinjXd
i love dbacks that can catch. what a difference