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Oh, come on. That's how it works in big business. I've personally been through a half year long interview process for a Fortune 500 company, along with about a dozen other candidates, interviewed by numerous members of the organization and didn't get hired in the end. It's a competitive world and an even more competitive business. But I never whined about it. That's how it goes. As a business owner, I've also put folks through triathlon interviews. I feel no pity for Fassel. He had his chance, had three interviews to impress and didn't come out on top. That's the way it goes. Tough luck.

SkinsFreak wrote:Oh, come on. That's how it works in big business. I've personally been through a half year long interview process for a Fortune 500 company, along with about a dozen other candidates, interviewed by numerous members of the organization and didn't get hired in the end. It's a competitive world and an even more competitive business. But I never whined about it. That's how it goes. As a business owner, I've also put folks through triathlon interviews. I feel no pity for Fassel. He had his chance, had three interviews to impress and didn't come out on top. That's the way it goes. Tough luck.

Were you asked to choose your assistants, who were then hired and put in place? Did that assistant then get the job over you?

SkinsFreak wrote:... Tough luck.

From Snyder lover to Snyder critic to Snyder apologist ...

Is that what they call FLIP- FLOP, FLIP - FLOP in US politics? Have some respect for yourself man.

Snyder's trust has been placed in the wrong hands with a lot of guys. Norv over Charlie, Vinny over a magic 8-ball...
Fassel would have been a huge mistake. Zorn may be worth the shot - allbeit a long shot.

SkinsJock wrote:Now I'm even more glad we did not end up with this guy - what a loser.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10631641

One time I was selling a car, someone came by and liked it, they said they were checking one more car and would call me that evening.

About a half hour later someone came by with a cashier's check for the full asking price (this was when cashier's checks were still a good thing) and I sold them the car.

About a half hour after that the first party called and said they wanted the car. I told them I'd sold it. They were trying to make like they were entitled to the car because they'd like it.

Hello, you told me you were looking at another car! What promise did I make to sell you a car you didn't promise to buy!

Snyder was still interviewing and he got the "shaft" because he didn't get the job. What a moron.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:Snyder was still interviewing and he got the "shaft" because he didn't get the job. What a moron.

Are you sure that there were no verbal commitments in this case?

But I do like the analogy: Danny the Clown = used car salesman (with all due respect to all the precious few good and decent used car sales persons out there).

Redskin in Canada wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:Snyder was still interviewing and he got the "shaft" because he didn't get the job. What a moron.

Are you sure that there were no verbal commitments in this case?

Do you have any proof whatsoever that there were?

Fassel was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said he thought the job was his, that he was consulted about both coordinator hires and that he was surprised and sad that he didn't get the job. He never said he was promised anythin. The FO was up-front about doing all their interviews and further said that Snyder called him at the end of the week and told them they were going to go with Zorn, prior to making the announcement.

Of course, Fassel also said that 9 of the last 11 super bowl winning coaches were in their second job. OH:

JansenFan wrote:Fassel was on Mike and Mike this morning. He said he thought the job was his, that he was consulted about both coordinator hires and that he was surprised and sad that he didn't get the job. He never said he was promised anythin. The FO was up-front about doing all their interviews and further said that Snyder called him at the end of the week and told them they were going to go with Zorn, prior to making the announcement.

Of course, Fassel also said that 9 of the last 11 super bowl winning coaches were in their second job. OH:

I think Fassel would have done a good job, and that last statement puts a different spin on most outlooks. GW was the best possible choice as far as I am concerned, but Zorn might turn out to be just what we needed.

Either way I'm sure Fassel was dissapointed because the team is in a good spot right now, and at the end of the season seemed to really come together. He would've been taking over a team that has overcome one of the toughest seasons in professional sports, and still seemed to find some light at the end of the tunnel. Maybe Fassel will be a Redskins coach in the future if Zorn doesn't do well (hopefully we give Zorn enough time to show us what he can do.)

I see things looking up for this team, and hope for a Superbowl Win sooner than later.



HAIL TO THE REDSKINS!!!

Fios wrote:Do you have any proof whatsoever that there were?

I have proof that Fassel was consulted to approve the choice of the two assistant coaches. If that is not enough to lead a person to understand that he is getting the job, other than signing a written contract, I do not know what it is.

But then again, even signing a written legal contract does not appear to be a guarantee for empoyment in Redskin Park anymore. Just ask E. Byner.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

SkinsFreak wrote:... Tough luck.

From Snyder lover to Snyder critic to Snyder apologist ...

Is that what they call FLIP- FLOP, FLIP - FLOP in US politics? Have some respect for yourself man.

Since you want to attack me in every thread, I'll consolidate my thoughts in this one.

First, just about everyone was going ballistic because Dan was even considering hiring Fassel. Folks were ready to storm Redskins Park if Dan did in fact hire him. Now that Dan decided not to hire Fassel, you morn for Fassel and criticize Dan for "stringing him along". Damned if if does, damned if he doesn't, right?

Do you have any comprehension of an interview process? You interview everyone before making a decision. You don't inform anyone of anything until all the interviews are complete and a decision is made. Fassel was mostly strung along by the media dubbing him the "leading candidate" day after day. In the end, Dan made the right decision not hiring Fassel.

Dan hires him, you bash him. Dan doesn't hire him, you bash him.

That is proof positive, beyond any reasonable doubt, that is doesn't matter what Dan does, good or bad, you'll search far and wide for anything to bash him for.

The is a huge difference between people like you and people like me. You simply want someone to blame, and exercise that in the form of endless hate focused at one person. I don't. I don't hate like you do. That's your problem and your misery, not mine. I sleep well at night, apparently you don't. Some are so quick to judge and fear the unknown. Steve Largent made an interesting comment to Zorn. He said fans in Seattle don't turn on you the way fans do in Redskins land.

Football is a team sport. No one person is solely responsible for everything and anything, good or bad. I've criticized Dan for decisions I disagreed with, like the firing of Williams. But at the same time, I have the decency, respect and nads to offer credit where credit it due, and Dan has done things in the past I've applauded and agreed with.

I agreed with the hiring of Gibbs. At the time, I agreed with the firing of Marty and the hiring of Spurrier and Marvin Lewis. It didn't work out, but at least I have the balls to admit that I supported Dan in those decisions, at the time. Dan has made some mistakes, but I also thinks he's done some good things.

I believe Dan is honestly and genuinely trying to field a winning team. Dan has actually done better than than some other owners out there. But Lord forbid he gets any credit for that. Dan's team has made the playoffs three times in his eight years, if I remember correctly. During that same period of time, how many other teams didn't make the playoffs at all or didn't win a game in the post season?

You use the luxury of hindsight and retrospect to fuel your agenda. , if that's how you are, but I don't operate that way. And I certainly don't sit on my high horse or pedestal and act as though I know more than these folks, or act like I "could" do it better "if" I actually worked in the industry. For comparison purposes, which team do you own and which sports franchise do you manage?

Portis fumbles the ball and you blame Dan. Gibbs calls two timeouts at the end of a game and you blame Dan. Gibbs doesn't win a Super Bowl in his second tenure and you want to blame Dan. Whatever. Your just looking for someone to blame so you can sleep better at night.

I agree Dan isn't perfect, but neither am I and neither is anybody else. You go right on ahead and cast stones if that's what you want to do. I know you wished everyone hated Dan like you do, but many don't. I respect the fact that you and others have been disappointed by a lack of a championship during Snyder's reign. That's your right. But blanket hate for someone in not something I'm prepared to embrace, and that's my right. As I've said before, I'm a Redskins fan and I support the team. For me, it's about the team, not the owner, I can't control what he does.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Fios wrote:Do you have any proof whatsoever that there were?

I have proof that Fassel was consulted to approve the choice of the two assistant coaches. If that is not enough to lead a person to understand that he is getting the job, other than signing a written contract, I do not know what it is.

See, you just twist it to meet your agenda. He wasn't consulted "TO APPROVE" the coordinators, as YOU put it. Like ALL the other candidates, he was simply asked who his choices would be and if he could "potentially" work with those guys. There's a big difference. But whatever, you'll just twist it some other way. You hate Dan so much that anything that even remotely has to do with him, you will immediately spin it in a negative way. Not everybody operates like that.

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