New Coach by tonight possibly...and new staff

[SkinsJock]

This situation is really an opportunity for Cerrato to let people know what is going on - the fact that nothing is coming to the press or anyone from him is very telling also It seems that the complete lack of co-operation between the media and these guys is going to continue to be based on speculation and aggravation.

[SkinsJock]

I read (on another of our many threads on this topic) that JLC is now "reporting" that Ryan does not want to come here in a lateral move from the Ravens - might be true but more likely a cop out from JLC because he just cannot seem to guess or get anything right

BTW - I will not link to anything from this idiot, just me, sorry

[CanesSkins26]

One other thought I had. Williams isn't stupid. With all these "league sources" out there, who always speak on the condition of anonymity, if Williams really did believe that, why haven't we heard that Gregg has contacted Jeff Fischer, or the Falcons, or the Jags, etc. about a job? Same with Saunders. I know they're still under contract here, but if they really thought they were going to be replaced, they'd have their agents on the phone. I would.

How do you know that GW's agent hasn't been in contact with other teams? Besides there is no rush for GW to do anything. If he isn't offered the head coaching gig he'll likely have his contract bought out and can take 2008 off and then look for a HC job after the season.

[SkinsFreak]

One other thought I had. Williams isn't stupid. With all these "league sources" out there, who always speak on the condition of anonymity, if Williams really did believe that, why haven't we heard that Gregg has contacted Jeff Fischer, or the Falcons, or the Jags, etc. about a job? Same with Saunders. I know they're still under contract here, but if they really thought they were going to be replaced, they'd have their agents on the phone. I would.

How do you know that GW's agent hasn't been in contact with other teams? Besides there is no rush for GW to do anything. If he isn't offered the head coaching gig he'll likely have his contract bought out and can take 2008 off and then look for a HC job after the season.

Because JLC, Fat Len and the all the "unnamed league sources" haven't reported it, and they ALWAYS have the facts. Get with the program, dude.

[DEHog]

One other thought I had. Williams isn't stupid. With all these "league sources" out there, who always speak on the condition of anonymity, if Williams really did believe that, why haven't we heard that Gregg has contacted Jeff Fischer, or the Falcons, or the Jags, etc. about a job? Same with Saunders. I know they're still under contract here, but if they really thought they were going to be replaced, they'd have their agents on the phone. I would.

Like I said...Williams has a "million" reasons to wait!

[SkinsJock]

I'm hoping that whomever is the HC does not make too many changes - we are not in bad shape with both players and the staff in my opinion and hopefully we can continue to finish the work that Gibbs began.

Yes we need to see adjustments to both players and the coaching staff but I hope we don't try and put together a different team here with too many variations from what we had at the end of the season.

If any major adjustments are needed they should begin at the top with Cerrato and the new HC - we do not need to have a big shake-up with the players OR the coaching

[DEHog]

And the latest...

Former Coach Joe Gibbs began calling members of the staff today to update them on the coaching search, league sources said. Gibbs is telling the coaches that it could be several more weeks until a decision is made, apologized
for how this has left them unsettled and for the process taking longer than they had hoped.

Great move by Snyder..should buy him some time with the fans.

[RedskinsFreak]

There's part of the new job description:

Owner makes a mess ... Joe cleans it up?

[jazzskins]

...should buy him some time with the fans.

Except for those who have already decided that he is going to screw it up no matter who he hires.

[SkinsFreak]

There's part of the new job description:

Owner makes a mess ... Joe cleans it up?

Whatever...

The media made a mess of this, with misinformation, not Snyder. Snyder hasn't said anything yet. But please, continue to draw conclusions with no facts, and jump right to a verdict without any evidence or even a word spoken by those actually involved. Brilliant.

[RedskinsFreak]

But please, continue to draw conclusions with no facts, and jump right to a verdict without any evidence or even a word spoken by those actually involved. Brilliant.

It's a bad attribute to sit and wait for the involved to speak.

By then, it's too late.

We're seeing the establishment of an organization where no amount of money (and Snyder has that in droves) will be enough for someone to come here and put up with the Beavis & Butt-head act that goes on at the top.

Cerrato has no positive reputation in the league outside of Ashburn and now that he's been crowned with even more power, they're finding the number of people willing to be subservient to all of that dwindling by the hour.

[HEROHAMO]

Booooo! FAssel sucks! He is too much of a nice guy. Nice guys finish last folks!

Snyder you idiot, wake up and smell the coffee , or sell the team to someone who knows how to run a team.

AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! GRHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Countertrey]

But please, continue to draw conclusions with no facts, and jump right to a verdict without any evidence or even a word spoken by those actually involved. Brilliant.

It's a bad attribute to sit and wait for the involved to speak.

By then, it's too late.

My God! How grandiose. As if anything any of us say will influence anything the Danny does/decides/creates/imagines/screws-up. As SkinsFreak (and many others) have pointed out, NO ONE EXCEPT the DANNY, CERRATO, (possibly) GIBBS, and a fist full of candidates actually KNOW anything. EVERYTHING else is SPECULATION.

And, whether you, or I, speak now, or forever hold your/my piece, the Danny will do what the Danny will do.

I don't intend to react until I know what I'm reacting to.

[CanesSkins26]

There's part of the new job description:

Owner makes a mess ... Joe cleans it up?

Whatever...

The media made a mess of this, with misinformation, not Snyder. Snyder hasn't said anything yet. But please, continue to draw conclusions with no facts, and jump right to a verdict without any evidence or even a word spoken by those actually involved. Brilliant.

Riggins and Bram made some good points today on the radio about how the Skins have contributed to this by being so unnecessarily secretive throughout this entire process. What Bram said was that if the Skins at least confirmed or denied who they were talking to, it would cut down on all the speculation that is out there. Nobody expects them to go into detail about the search, but it would behoove them to at least acknowledge some of them candidates that have been involved. Bram seemed to think that that would allow the Skins to keep this from getting out of control in the media the way it has. For example, the Skins wouldn't even tell Bram which members of the staff is down in Mobile for the Senior Bowl. That just seems totally unnecessary.

[CanesSkins26]

Posted at 4:26 PM ET, 01/24/2008
Coaching Update/Skins Rebuffed In Attempt To Land Another Offensive Coach

Former Coach Joe Gibbs began calling members of the staff today to update them on the coaching search, league sources said. Gibbs is telling the coaches that it could be several more weeks until a decision is made, apologized
for how this has left them unsettled and for the process taking longer than they had hoped.

The coaches will gather at Redskins Park next week to be given more information on what their duties will be in the interim and will meet individually with Gibbs.

It had been 16 days since most coaches had been given any information from management whatsoever.

League sources said the Redskins have also told other parties involved in this process that they anticipate expanding the process to include coaches involved in the Super Bowl and Jim Fassel, who emerged as the leading candidate this week, has been put on hold.

The team was trying to assemble a staff around Fassel, guys they knew he could work well with, and hoped to make that hiring shortly, but several of the men they hoped to hire were blocked - including an attempt to lure San Diego QB coach John Ramsdell to interview for an offensive coordinator or QB coach job here, league sources said (Jason Reid will have more on that later; Ramsdell agreed to new 3-year deal with the Chargers today) - and others like Rex Ryan and Jim Zorn look like they are staying with their current teams. Fan reaction to Fassel has been intense, and the team has taken pause in the process.

Steve Spaguolo and Josh McDaniels would be the names to watch among the Super Bowl coaches. Barring another drastic turn from Daniel Snyder, all indications coming from the braintrust point to us heading to February without a resolution. Lauren and the kids are going to love that.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

[por-tiz2skins]

Come to Washington Fassel.

[SkinsFreak]

We're seeing the establishment of an organization where no amount of money (and Snyder has that in droves) will be enough for someone to come here and put up with the Beavis & Butt-head act that goes on at the top.

Like Joe Gibbs? And like you have any clue "what goes on at the top". As a matter of fact, over the past half decade, they've done a fairly decent job.

Cerrato has no positive reputation in the league outside of Ashburn and now that he's been crowned with even more power, they're finding the number of people willing to be subservient to all of that dwindling by the hour.

Once again... I guess his Super Bowl ring and a National Championship ring mean nothing. Maybe those accomplishments garner no respect from you, but I'm sure many actually employed in the profession recognize the achievement and how difficult it is to achieve it. But thanks for your professional opinion. I'm sure all of the front office guys from around the league that you play golf with and hang out with at the country club have informed you otherwise.

The team was trying to assemble a staff around Fassel, guys they knew he could work well with, and hoped to make that hiring shortly

What a load of crap that is. Talk about trying to cover your ass a day later. There is no evidence of that anywhere. They interviewed some people, that's it.

Barring another drastic turn from Daniel Snyder, all indications coming from the braintrust point to us heading to February without a resolution.

Yesterday "all indications" were confirming Fassel, Ryan and Zorn were to be announced at any time. A day later, "all indications" point us in another direction.

"All indications" emphatically and unquestionably indicate JLC doesn't know jack. I can't even take anything he says from here on out as even being in the same stratosphere of being remotely accurate. Chicken Little might be sellin', but I ain't buyin'.

[SkinsFreak]

Riggins and Bram made some good points today on the radio about how the Skins have contributed to this by being so unnecessarily secretive throughout this entire process. What Bram said was that if the Skins at least confirmed or denied who they were talking to, it would cut down on all the speculation that is out there. Nobody expects them to go into detail about the search, but it would behoove them to at least acknowledge some of them candidates that have been involved. Bram seemed to think that that would allow the Skins to keep this from getting out of control in the media the way it has. For example, the Skins wouldn't even tell Bram which members of the staff is down in Mobile for the Senior Bowl. That just seems totally unnecessary.

Who cares what they think or want. Right now, and through this process, the Skins don't have to explain or divulge squat to the media, and they are presently members of the media. Things got out of hand yesterday, thanks to Chicken Little, and the Skins officials had to come out late last night to end the false rumors, when they didn't or shouldn't have to. Until the decision is made, why do some in the media think they are entitled to anything? Joke...

[Countertrey]

I can't even take anything he says from here on out as even being in the same stratosphere of being remotely accurate.

BBBBBUT... he had reliable sources inside Redskin Park! I mean, how much more inside can you get than the friend of the brother in-law of the guy who mows the lawn of the guy who has a sister that is the girlfriend of the 2nd shift supervisor of the company that fills the vending machines there?

[SkinsFreak]

...somebody has a sister?

[Countertrey]

...somebody has a sister?

I know what you mean... threw me for a minute too.

[RedskinsFreak]

Once again... I guess his Super Bowl ring and a National Championship ring mean nothing.

You're right there. Absolutely zero.

Equipment managers get rings too.

[RedskinsFreak]

I can't even take anything he says from here on out as even being in the same stratosphere of being remotely accurate.

BBBBBUT... he had reliable sources inside Redskin Park! I mean, how much more inside can you get than the friend of the brother in-law of the guy who mows the lawn of the guy who has a sister that is the girlfriend of the 2nd shift supervisor of the company that fills the vending machines there?

Sources ARE GMs and front office people and agents and players -- who just don't want their name attached to the info because they'd be in deep doo if they were to be connected with the report.

[SkinsJock]

.. Sources ARE GMs and front office people and agents and players -- who just don't want their name attached to the info because they'd be in deep doo if they were to be connected with the report.

and you know this for a fact? There is so much mis-information going on about our team right now that I'm certain nobody except for a few people really knows what is happening - this stuff is just a bunch of sports media types throwing stuff out there and hoping some of it sticks

People in the NFL are not supplying or speculating about this - this is a group of media that have an agenda and an owner that is an easy target because of what happened years ago.

[CanesSkins26]

Like Joe Gibbs? And like you have any clue "what goes on at the top". As a matter of fact, over the past half decade, they've done a fairly decent job.

A fairly decent job? Well, gee. It's nice to know that "fairly decent" is now the measuring stick for the Washington Redskins. You mention the past half decade. Since 2003, our record in 35-47. How exactly is that "fairly decent"? That is downright awful. A lot of the blame for that poor record rests squarely on the shoulders of Snyder and Vinny. Firing Marty and hiring Spurrier was a disaster. Trading away draft picks for guys like Duckett and Lloyd, drafting poorly with the picks we retained, signing overpriced free agents, etc.

Take a look at our draft record since Danny and Vinny got to town and tell me how it is anywhere close to "fairly decent"?

Once again... Rolling Eyes I guess his Super Bowl ring and a National Championship ring mean nothing. Maybe those accomplishments garner no respect from you, but I'm sure many actually employed in the profession recognize the achievement and how difficult it is to achieve it

Vinny's rings don't mean squat. With the Redskins he has done a poor job. Who cares what he did at Notre Dame in the 80's??? Has absolutely no bearing on his job with the Redskins.

Who cares what they think or want. Right now, and through this process, the Skins don't have to explain or divulge squat to the media, and they are presently members of the media. Things got out of hand yesterday, thanks to Chicken Little, and the Skins officials had to come out late last night to end the false rumors, when they didn't or shouldn't have to. Until the decision is made, why do some in the media think they are entitled to anything? Joke... Rolling Eyes

Nobody is saying that the media is entitled to anything. But the Redskins' secrecy in this is a major contributing factor to all of the rumors flying around. Usually when teams hire coaches they keep the fans and media apprised and it results in less rumors from the media and less panic/speculation from the fans. The Skins have every right to keep quiet about this, but then they can't be held blameless when a media circus ensues. [/b]