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Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:38 pm
by SkinsFreak
tribeofjudah wrote:We need someone with the "offensive" mind.... Who can that be? Gregg is great with the D. Sanders is great with the O.
Dare we say Pete Carroll? I would not put this past the Danny.
He wants to WIN and Carroll has been a winner at USC. And, he's a players coach.
I'm not so sure they'd want to take another chance with a glorified college coach. I also think Pete will stay right where he is.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:51 pm
by skinsrule84
Wow I'd love Pete Carrol. As long as he doesn't completely overhaul the coaching staff and offensive/defensive system then he'd be the dream coach IMO.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:56 pm
by spudstr04
The Redskins will reportedly meet with Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz regarding their head coaching vacancy this week.
Redskins assistant HC/defense Gregg Williams was initially considered the frontrunner to succeed Joe Gibbs. That the first candidate Washington will interview is a defensive mind doesn't bode well for Williams' chances.
NBCSports.com's Tom Curran reports Titans defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz has emerged as the front runner to replace Joe Gibbs in Washington.
A league source tells Curran that Schwartz blew the Redskins away during his interview Thursday. Schwartz runs a similar defense to current 'Skins' defensive boss Gregg Williams, so Williams will likely move on if Schwartz is hired. Schwartz still has interviews set up with Atlanta and Miami.
http://www.rotoworld.com
who is this guy and what happened to big names???
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:59 pm
by 1niksder
spudstr04 wrote:who is this guy and what happened to big names???
Go back Two Post
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:19 pm
by jazzskins
Schwartz pedigree is pretty impressive.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 10:42 pm
by JansenFan
If we hire Pete Carroll, I'll puke.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:01 pm
by PulpExposure
JansenFan wrote:If we hire Pete Carroll, I'll puke.
I'd seriously think about turning in my Redskins fandom if we hire either Carroll OR Brian Billick.
I hate that Billick is even being mentioned by the media.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:01 pm
by Jake
JansenFan wrote:If we hire Pete Carroll, I'll puke.
If we hire anyone other than Gregg Williams, I'll puke, whihc as it appears now, I'm going to be sick real soon.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:14 pm
by Redskin in Canada
Jake wrote:JansenFan wrote:If we hire Pete Carroll, I'll puke.
If we hire anyone other than Gregg Williams, I'll puke, whihc as it appears now, I'm going to be sick real soon.
Just to think that the decision is being discussed by the Danny and Cerrato -already- made me SICK.
It was a SIMPLE, STRAIGHTFORWARD, AUTOMATIC choice to be made. The fans knew it. The players knew it. All other NFL people knew it. But no, let us rock the boat. Why would ANYBODY take Dan Snyder at his word during the last Gibbs press conference?
Downright hopeless.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:24 pm
by Redskin in Canada
How telling ...
Swengali: Two People Need to Replace Gibbs
DURING TUESDAY'S PRESS CONFERENCE at Redskins Park, Dan Snyder looked like a guy who'd just been dumped.
Powerless to change Joe Gibbs' mind, Snyder morosely listened to the coach's explanation for his second retirement.
"You don't replace Joe Gibbs," the brokenhearted owner said.
Snyder was right — just not in the way he meant it.
Gibbs, whose bust is already in Canton and who owns three Super Bowl rings, had the credentials to run the whole show in Washington. And despite some questionable free-agent misses early on, Gibbs picked more good players than bad.
If the list of candidates to succeed Gibbs is to be believed, only one candidate, Bill Cowher, is worthy of controlling player-personnel decisions. Otherwise, Snyder should be looking for two people to fill Gibbs' shoes: a coach and a GM.
By already ruling out the possibility of a GM, Snyder is showing signs that he learned little from Gibbs. The owner is a brilliant businessman with odd tastes — Johnny Rockets? — but his track record for picking players is atrocious.
The man who signed Jeff George, Bruce Smith and Deion Sanders was responsible for the Redskins' chaos before Gibbs returned.
A second tenure with Snyder as GM could spell disaster for a franchise that finally found stability. With any luck, Snyder will have second thoughts on how to run the promising Redskins team Joe Gibbs has left behind.
http://www.readexpress.com/read_freerid ... e_gibb.php
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:27 pm
by CanesSkins26
Schwartz does have a very impressive pedigree. Like the one article said, if we are interviewing a defensive coach with a system similar to GW's that doesn't bode well at all for Greg. I'm not as sold on GW as a head coach as some others but I'm not sure how hiring Schwartz would make any sense. I could see hiring a former Skin like Grimm but Schwartz just seems like a younger version of GW.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:34 pm
by SkinsJock
I have done an in depth analysis of all the opinions on who will be the next HC and I am a little mystified by any credence given to any coach who is not presently at Redskins Park - this leads me to the very happy conclusion that Gregg Williams will be in charge here shortly.
Thank you to everyone for helping to make this choice so obvious.
Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 11:50 pm
by CanesSkins26
osted at 3:52 PM ET, 01/10/2008
Coaching Update
From what I hear the meeting between Dan Snyder and Jim Schwartz, Tennesee's defensive coordinator, is taking place today (probably at Morton's, if history is an indicator). Joe Gibbs has been in the building all day and consulted with Dan for much of Wednesday, but is not taking part in the interviews.
By all accounts this is an interview for the head coaching gig. That's how everyone in this building is taking it. It's not being perceived as a chance to line up someone to make a lateral move (ie hire Schwartz to run the defense under Gregg Williams but give him more money and a better title than he has with the Titans). If that is to the contrary I will let you know, but without a doubt the vibe here is that this is the start of the process to see who will replace Joe Gibbs.
This is the first interview and I am sure several more will follow with other candidates. And the team must comply wih the Rooney Rule, obviously. as well. Four more teams will become fair game once the games are over the weekend, and I hear guys like Colts assistant Jim Caldwell and Seattle assistant Jim Mora could be candidates. I would be very surprised if the Redskins did not reach out to several coaches next week once the NFL is down to its Final Four.
Marty Schottenheimer's agent told me his client is certainly intetrested in a return to the NFL in the right position, but that the Redskins have not contacted him. Rex Ryan has not been contacted either. Word from Bill Cowher's camp continues to be that he is happy doing what he is doing.
Also, if you are scoring at home, here is a list Jason Reid put together of teams who the Redskins definitely have NOT asked for permission to interview a coach under contract to this point: San Diego, San Francisco, New Orleans, Buffalo, Houston, Cincy, Houston, Philly, St. Louis, Pitt. Still waiting to hear back from several other teams but those clubs reported no contact from the Skins.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:06 am
by aswas71788
I would be very, very, VERY, VERY surprised if Pete Carroll left USC. Pete has said on many occasions that it would take a miracle deal to get him to go back to the NFL. I don't think the Redskins are one of the teams he would consider anyway. I would not worry much about Pete Carroll becoming the Redskins Head Coach. I also find it hard to believe that Schwartz is the front runner when only one person has been intrviewed.
All we can do is wait it out and see who gets the brass ring.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:13 am
by SkinsJock
I have heard that Coach Petrino is not having an easy time getting players to commit to Arkansas and he might be interested in coming back to the NFL - can anyone who knows Snyder's cell # give him a call - this guy could be here tomorrow for about $5 mill or more, and he would qualify as part of the NFL's policy on giving the under-privileged/can't be trusted clause.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:35 am
by por-tiz2skins
skinsrule84 wrote:Wow I'd love Pete Carrol. As long as he doesn't completely overhaul the coaching staff and offensive/defensive system then he'd be the dream coach IMO.
I would love it also.Hes also NFL experience.
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7656970
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:48 am
by HEROHAMO
To me it is obvious Snyder wants to hire outside of the current staff.
I wonder would Williams stay if he is not named the head coach? Would the new coach just blow the whole team up? Yikes!
Honestly I want Williams as head coach, but if Snyder is stubborn enough to go outside I would want him to go after Bob Stoops.
Snyder is looking over all the candidates at this time. Why not consider Stoops? Yes Stoops is happy at Oklahoma but you never know?
Why I like Stoops? He is a trustworthy guy. He knows his football. People respect him.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:51 am
by JansenFan
por-tiz2skins wrote:skinsrule84 wrote:Wow I'd love Pete Carrol. As long as he doesn't completely overhaul the coaching staff and offensive/defensive system then he'd be the dream coach IMO.
I would love it also.Hes also NFL experience.
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7656970
Replace "Pete Carroll" with "Steve Spurrier" and you'd be living in 2004. Let's not make that mistake again. Very few uber-successful college coaches make the transition to uber-successful NFL coach, because it takes two different types of people to be successful.
This is just my opinion, but to me, in college, you have to have the type of personality that wins over kids and their parents. Talent is as much responsible for winning in the NCAA as the coach is. In the NFL, you have to be a work-a-holic, holed up in your office, pouring over the film looking for nuances. The talent in the NFL is much more equal. Game planning and game-time decisions are much more important in the NFL than in college.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:51 am
by chiefhog44
Jake wrote:JansenFan wrote:If we hire Pete Carroll, I'll puke.
If we hire anyone other than Gregg Williams, I'll puke, whihc as it appears now, I'm going to be sick real soon.
I spent most of the day speaking to some guys (Adam Schein, Tim Ryan, Pat Kirwan, Solomon Wilcox and Dan Reeves) about our coaching situation. Two things I asked each of them was:
What do you think Gibbs means when he says he will stay on as an advisor?
and
If Gregg Williams is selected to coach the team, do you think Al Saunders will stay on as OC?
The answers to the first were pretty consistant. All of them said that Dan may call him once in a great while for advice. Nothing more. Dan Reeves' answer was the best. "A friend told me one time that being an advisor was like being a bachelor...you know what the sex is like, you just can't find someone who wants to date."
The answers to the second were pretty similar as well. All but Dan Reeves thought that he would stick around...He has nowhere else to go and that a contract with Gregg Williams would probably be contigent upon Saunders staying. Reeves thought that all head coaches want their own staff, and Williams would most likely purge the Offensive staff.
Pat Kirwan and Tim Ryan both said that they thought Jason Garrett would be the next coach
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 1:44 am
by CanesSkins26
Replace "Pete Carroll" with "Steve Spurrier" and you'd be living in 2004. Let's not make that mistake again. Very few uber-successful college coaches make the transition to uber-successful NFL coach, because it takes two different types of people to be successful
I don't really want Carroll as our next head coach but comparing him to Steve Spurrier is ridiculous. When Spurrier came to the Skins he had zero NFL experience, a questionable work ethic, and a gimmick offense. Carroll, on the other hand, has 16 years of NFL coaching experience. Carroll was an assistant for 6 years, a defensive coordinator for 6 years, and an NFL head coach for 4. As a head coach he posted a 33-31 record and went to the playoffs in 2 of his 4 seasons. These aren't the best credentials in the world but he was a decent head coach in the NFL. Comparing his abilities to Spurrier's is silly.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:23 am
by Skinsfan55
I think us getting Pete Carroll would be one of the stupidest moves in the history of the Washington Redskins and quite frankly, I am very disappointed that anyone would be excited about the possibility.
Schwartz looks like a great option. If the Redskins are unsure about GW as the head coach and Schwartz blew them away in the interview then why not go with Schwartz? He brings some serious advantages.
In an older defense like we have, he can attract some of his younger players when they hit free agency. Albert Haynesworth for one could be a nice signing.
The best thing about the move would be that it keeps the offense the same with Al Saunders who I believe will stay if the coach hired is a defensive specialist.
There'll be more interviews though. Maybe someone else will come along too.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:34 am
by SkinsFreak
Well, it does now appear they will bring in a few guys for interviews. My theory is they'll interview some candidates, then announce Williams, saying after several interviews, GW is just the best man for the job.
If in fact that's what they intend to do, I hope they've conveyed that to Gregg to some degree so he won't get pissed off. Gibbs and Snyder spent many hours discussing Joe's retirement and the direction the team should take. I just can't imagine Gibbs would tell Dan to look elsewhere for a HC, in effect, starting over again. As soon as Gibbs announced his return four years ago, Williams was the first person Joe pursued. And we definitely heard Dan say at the press conference that they are happy with what they have and realize the importance of continuity.
On another note, even though the vast majority of Skins fans were thrilled with the return of Gibbs and the turnaround and direction he's given the team, I believe many, including myself, became somewhat irritated with his ball control, conservative offensive approach. If in fact Al stays on as the OC, we may very well see this offense open up, quite a bit, in fact. Something I'm anticipating and am looking forward to.
I always hated it when they got inside the red zone, Joe would just put them in a bunch formation and try to pound the ball into the endzone, failing much of the time. It is a different game nowadays. 1st and goal? Spread them out and throw a skinny post to
ey and be done with it.
I'm sad the see Gibbs go, but intrigued at the potential of a more attacking offense Saunders is known for.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:36 am
by DieselFan
Mark my words... Gregg Williams will be the next coach of the Washington Redskins. Schwartz will be the (very highly) paid Defensive Coordinator (or, Assistant Head Coach - Defense in Redskins vernacular).
I'm so certain, that if I'm wrong, I'll buy dinner for da Boss and all TheHogs.net staff that makes it up for training camp.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:52 am
by SkinsFreak
DieselFan wrote:Mark my words... Gregg Williams will be the next coach of the Washington Redskins. Schwartz will be the (very highly) paid Defensive Coordinator (or, Assistant Head Coach - Defense in Redskins vernacular).
I'm so certain, that if I'm wrong, I'll buy dinner for da Boss and all TheHogs.net staff that makes it up for training camp.
That's actually not a bad prediction. Schwartz does come from the same coaching tree and is a great coach himself. That would be pretty sweet, in my opinion.
Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 9:56 am
by Skinsfan55
Just buy the dinner now, because if I understand things correctly that could NEVER happen.
He's interviewing for other head coaching vacancies so even if he wanted to it makes no sense to become a defensive coordinator.
Besides that, isn't he still under contract with the Titans? Surely they would let him interview for head coaching jobs, but to leave them to do the same job with someone else? Impossible.