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Gibbs4Life wrote:It's Gregg Williams folks, he's earned it. Gibbs knows whats best, he came back and put us in the playoffs twice and built a roster worthy of the Redskins.

I think having Gregg as HC, Blanche as DC and Al is OC will be swell.

Fios wrote:So much for loyalty no matter what eh?

I cannot be a fan where my heart is not in it. There is a FAN with capital letters and there is a fan with small letters who follows from a distance if at all.

I abandoned baseball a few years ago. It would not be difficult to leave he NFL if my heart is not in it. Call that disloyal if you might. I call it honesty.

I am FED UP with the owner and his shameful front office. I do not like their PR people. I hate the business side of the Danny Snyder era. I am here because I believed in principles and character. If those are not there, What the hell am I wasting my time, money and energy on?

There are other far more inspirational things to do. I am only speaking of a very personal choice. Joe Gibbs kept the light of hope on when he was here. I will wait and see whether I can BELIEVE with my heart and mind in the new crowd.

Ine thing is for sure, I do not trust the owner and his YES maffia.

Fios wrote:Gibbs is going to retain a role with the team, what that means obviously remains to be seen:

Gibbs, who resigns with one year remaining on his contract, will remain part of the Redskins family and serve as a special advisor to owner Daniel M. Snyder.

We know it is "said" and it is "quoted" But that is nothing in writing.

If they don't have anything in writing, it don't really mean nothing.

It all depends on who the HC will be. You think if it is Cowher for example. All it will take is one decision to be made, and the two butt heads about it. Danny will side with the guy he's paying millions to.

Gibbs stepping down isn't the end of the Redskins, he can't coach forever! Gosh! Life will go on.

I realy don't feel like picking the bones apart right now. Whoever gets the job will have a hard job following a man with such class, wisdom and sheer integrity. Good luck Joe you brought me to the Redskins and welded me to them. Good luck to you and health and happiness to your family.

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Redskin in Canada wrote:which means that there might be no other President or GM. We might go back to Danny running the team. GRRRRREAT.

What worries me is that nobody aside from Gibbs has the ability to tell Danny to shutup and leave.

The fans have that ability. I think DS understands that if he fields a mediocre, underachieving team long enough, the fans are going to think twice about paying those prices for parking, tickets, beer, jerseys, etc. Tickets were a lot easier to get during losing seasons than winning ones.

cleg wrote:That is the million dollar question. Has The Danny learned enough from Gibbs to be a successful owner? I have some doubts.

It wasn't hard to figure out that it would be a PR debocle to bring in the most iconic figure this franchise has seen and NOT hand him the keys and back away.

But if he sees Gibbs' retirement as the equivalent of the locks being taken off the gates to the playground ..... oh help us.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Gibbs4Life wrote:It's Gregg Williams folks, he's earned it. Gibbs knows whats best, he came back and put us in the playoffs twice and built a roster worthy of the Redskins.

I think having Gregg as HC, Blanche as DC and Al is OC will be swell.

Yep, I'm with ya.

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Fios wrote:Gibbs is going to retain a role with the team, what that means obviously remains to be seen:

Gibbs, who resigns with one year remaining on his contract, will remain part of the Redskins family and serve as a special advisor to owner Daniel M. Snyder.

which means that there might be no other President or GM. We might go back to Danny running the team. GRRRRREAT.

Remember guys, I wrote once that Joe would step down from BOTH positions. He would not step from one and not the other. REMEMBER.

So, all of those who wanted Joe out of the HC position got their wish. I hope you guys are right. I, on the other hand, will seriously look at the choices to be made within the next few weeks before I decide that I have any interest in the NFL, let alone the Washington Redskins and even my participation this board. I am serious.

Dang, there goes my sleep for the next 3 months.
Seriously, who cares?! Obviously it sucks that he is gone, but you nor I have any idea if a new coach will be sucessfull or not. Look at sean payton w/the saints last year. Wade Phillips and Mike Tomlin this year. There is a plethora of examples of coaches that have stepped in and done a great job. That MAY or may NOT happen to us, but to just Pronouce your abandonment of football and specifically the skins is laughable.

Mursilis wrote:The fans have that ability. I think DS understands that if he fields a mediocre, underachieving team long enough, the fans are going to think twice about paying those prices for parking, tickets, beer, jerseys, etc. Tickets were a lot easier to get during losing seasons than winning ones.

Remember that the MAIN audience in the DS era are CORPORATE seats. There have been enough of us suckers who purchase tickets no matter what even before Joe came back.

Let's see who is next. A LOT is riding on it. Some people may not say so in public yet. But many people will vote with their feet on Danny Snyder if he screws up this time. People are not patient with him anymore.

Will the Washington Post take me as a Danny Snyder basher??? I -might- apply for a job there.

Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

Redskin in Canada wrote:

Fios wrote:So much for loyalty no matter what eh?

I cannot be a fan where my heart is not in it. There is a FAN with capital letters and there is a fan with small letters who follows from a distance if at all.

I abandoned baseball a few years ago. It would not be difficult to leave he NFL if my heart is not in it. Call that disloyal if you might. I call it honesty.

I am FED UP with the owner and his shameful front office. I do not like their PR people. I hate the business side of the Danny Snyder era. I am here because I believed in principles and character. If those are not there, What the hell am I wasting my time, money and energy on?

There are other far more inspirational things to do. I am only speaking of a very personal choice. Joe Gibbs kept the light of hope on when he was here. I will wait and see whether I can BELIEVE with my heart and mind in the new crowd.

Ine thing is for sure, I do not trust the owner and his YES maffia.

Talk about an overreaction.

Just about all of us are shocked at the latest development.

Gibbs decides to retire and all of a sudden it's Snyder's fault? Whatever. It's been reported that Gibbs will be a "special adviser" for Snyder. I don't know how you interpret that, but that tells me Snyder respects Gibbs and will most likely follow the guidance Gibbs will offer on numerous issues.

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

I really hope it does not but he is unquestionably loyal to Gibbs

Gibbs' biggest mistake was Mark Brunell, that was a hit or miss and he missed on that one, and that's a big one. I honestly believe we could've won it all with Gibbs and a good QB.

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

Depends who gets the job. If it's a outsider then probably.

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

Do not quote me, but my gutfeeling is YES. He has had a few difficulties and serious health issues this past year. He ONLY came back because of Joe.

They are a package. Geez, am I ever sad to see both of them go! The end of an era.

Fios wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

I really hope it does not but he is unquestionably loyal to Gibbs

I doubt he's staying. I really do.

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

I would think Bugel and Breaux are going to be gone. They're part of the Gibbs posse and were here only because Gibbs was.

RedskinsFreak wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

I would think Bugel and Breaux are going to be gone. They're part of the Gibbs posse and were here only because Gibbs was.

Nobody would notice if Breaux left.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

RedskinsFreak wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

I would think Bugel and Breaux are going to be gone. They're part of the Gibbs posse and were here only because Gibbs was.

Nobody would notice if Breaux left.

Oh, but he's the "offensive coordinator"!!!

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

RedskinsFreak wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

I would think Bugel and Breaux are going to be gone. They're part of the Gibbs posse and were here only because Gibbs was.

Nobody would notice if Breaux left.

No kidding. I think his official job title was "security blanket".

I will be glued on to Redskins.com to watch the press conference at 3 PM ET.

See ya later guys, I am going to try to get to do some work. It is going tobe tough with my mind elsewhere though. I better run.

Thanks guys.

RedskinsFreak wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

I would think Bugel and Breaux are going to be gone. They're part of the Gibbs posse and were here only because Gibbs was.

Which is why I asked the question, I hope they stick it out at least one more year, for continuity's sake, to help with the transition.

JSPB22 wrote:

RedskinsFreak wrote:

JSPB22 wrote:Does this mean Buges is leaving, too?

I would think Bugel and Breaux are going to be gone. They're part of the Gibbs posse and were here only because Gibbs was.

Which is why I asked the quetion, I hope they stick it ou at least one more year, for coninuity's sake, to help with the transition.

The main person who cannot leave is Al Saunders. Im sure he has some folk he could bring in from his reign in Kansas City. I'm not all that worried about Joe leaving, cus its already done.

We gotta keep what is left together.

Wow, ok, I finally believe it. I just saw it on Redskins site. OMG, wow.


Mr. Gibbs, thank you for everything that you have done. I wish you well on everyhting you decide to do.