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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:22 am
by SKINFAN
you guys don't think it's noteworthy that he booted a 47 yarder in the first game to win it, wasn't it like 1st down and we kicked a field goal instead of going for more yards, and now he's missed a 48 and maybe around that neighborhood, in the giants game?

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:29 am
by GSPODS
SKINFAN wrote:you guys don't think it's noteworthy that he booted a 47 yarder in the first game to win it, wasn't it like 1st down and we kicked a field goal instead of going for more yards, and now he's missed a 48 and maybe around that neighborhood, in the giants game?


If or when a missed kick costs the Redskins a game it will be noteworthy. Until then, it's just another non-issue to complain about.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:30 am
by BnGhog
SKINFAN wrote:you guys don't think it's noteworthy that he booted a 47 yarder in the first game to win it, wasn't it like 1st down and we kicked a field goal instead of going for more yards, and now he's missed a 48 and maybe around that neighborhood, in the giants game?


Not really. He was off target. I didn't think he would be, considering we were on home turf and all. But still he missed one. He needs to forget it and keep his head right. Same as Campbell when he's off target. He can't let it get to him. I will let him slide on a few. You can't make them all.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:01 am
by roybus14
Good analysis.

I would like to also add that it looks like our coaching staff has found a little rhythm in how they coach the game. The true test will of course be Sunday and if they can call another good game and our players execute.

Sunday, we looked like we were finally confident and sure about what were doing. I really got that sense on Sunday.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:15 am
by Deadskins
GSPODS wrote:Actually, you are incorrect. What defines a word in the English language is commonality of usage. Words which are found in the dictionary are placed there as a result of being found numerous times in print. A copy of any decent unabridged dictionary will have hundreds of slang euphemisms, gross mispronounciations, and other errors which have become words.

You contradict yourself, sir. By your own definition, "irregardless" is still not a word because, thankfully, enough editors have a sufficient grasp of the meanings of the prefix "ir" and the suffix "less" to keep it out of print, and therefore, out of the dictionary.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:26 am
by SKINFAN
Who's complaining? I'm just saying it's noteworthy, as in it was the only negative about the game.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:27 am
by GSPODS
JSPB22 wrote:
GSPODS wrote:Actually, you are incorrect. What defines a word in the English language is commonality of usage. Words which are found in the dictionary are placed there as a result of being found numerous times in print. A copy of any decent unabridged dictionary will have hundreds of slang euphemisms, gross mispronounciations, and other errors which have become words.

You contradict yourself, sir. By your own definition, "irregardless" is still not a word because, thankfully, enough editors have a sufficient grasp of the meanings of the prefix "ir" and the suffix "less" to keep it out of print, and therefore, out of the dictionary.


Out of which dictionary?

ir·re·gard·less /ˌɪrɪˈgɑrdlɪs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ir-i-gahrd-lis] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adverb Nonstandard. regardless.


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[Origin: 1910–15; ir-2 (prob. after irrespective) + regardless]


—Usage note Irregardless is considered nonstandard because of the two negative elements ir- and -less. It was probably formed on the analogy of such words as irrespective, irrelevant, and irreparable. Those who use it, including on occasion educated speakers, may do so from a desire to add emphasis. Irregardless first appeared in the early 20th century and was perhaps popularized by its use in a comic radio program of the 1930s.
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adv. Nonstandard
Regardless.


[Probably blend of irrespective and regardless.]


Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.

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irregardless

an erroneous word that, etymologically, means the exact opposite of what it is used to express, attested in non-standard writing from 1912, probably a blend of irrespective and regardless. Perhaps inspired by the double negative used as an emphatic.

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WordNet - Cite This Source - Share This irregardless

adverb
regardless; a combination of irrespective and regardless sometimes used humorously

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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:41 am
by BnGhog
GSPODS wrote:[ when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing.




This says casual writing, Id call a message board casual writing so it fine.

Irregardless , CAN WE DROP IT!




Mostly becaues you guys are making me feel dumb!

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:45 am
by GSPODS
BnGhog wrote:
GSPODS wrote:[ when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing.




This says casual writing, Id call a message board casual writing so it fine.

Irregardless , CAN WE DROP IT!




Mostly becaues you guys are making me feel dumb!


Cool. Let's get back to the thread topic. I'd die happy if the Redskins play the rest of the season like they played Sunday.

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:45 am
by Deadskins
Touche, GSPODS. So semantically, you win, because it is a word included in the dictionary, but I was not incorrect in my original post:
JSPB22 wrote:
BossHog wrote:I still don't understand the 'wow' factor. Irregardless may be used less often, but both are acceptable.

Actually, "irregardless" is not even a word. It is a combination of irrespective and regardless.

Back on topic, it was readily apparent we had two weeks to prepare for this game. A solid spanking all around.


And from all the definitions you posted, it is noted that it is non-standard, and is generally considered a nonsense word. Besides, I was responding to BH's comment that "both are acceptable."