Why is Gibbs sticking with Brunell?

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aswas71788 wrote:I was just looking at some stats. In last Sundays game, Brunell completed 27 passes for 226 yards. That equals 8.37 yards per pass. Not very effective, is it?


Yes when you consider that the league average is between 6 and 7. Look I'm not calling anyone retarded, but its pretty retarded to read this thread and harp on the comparison to Brady's stats THIS YEAR to Brunell...no one, including me, would compare the two QB's....but what I am saying is you are naive, uninformed, and plain not paying attention if you think that Brunell is the ONLY reason why we have a losing record.

If you all actually read before you posted...you would not make such uninformed posts. I'm not comparing Brunell's career, or value as a QB to Brady...what I am saying is that from an objective standpoint....he is not playing so poorly that we CANT win games.....he's not playing great enough to WIN any by himself.

But in the NFC East you have to have a solid defense and good running game to win with our style. Right now...we are top 7 in the league in yards per rush attempt....and top 10 in the league in yards per pass play....the problem is we don't have a lot of rushes...WHY??? if any of you know the game, you would know that we can't rush the ball 30 times, when you are either trailing by 10+ points or if you only get 46 plays on offense.

So while all of you would probably think that Jason Campbell will solve our problems....it's pretty funny....you are in denial that we have more problems than QB play.

Maybe you should rent Parcell's football video...because you are arguing something that I never said...
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Why are the redskins always behind? Has anyone noticed that in almost every game, the offense went 3-n-out on their first possession? In 2 games, first Cartright and then Randle El provide a spark of energy and the offense went in and went 3-n-out on their next possession.



Sure, it has nothing to do with the fact that we are ranked 29 against the pass...and 17th against the run...and are giving up more big plays than all but one team in the league.
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Enough with the statisitcs already. They don't tell the whole story. If Brunell throws a 3 yard pass on 3rd and 10 it boosts his completion percentage and his qb rating, but it doesn't do anything to help the team convert the first down. Statistics also don't show how often Brunell has receivers open downfield and instead of throwing to them he dumps the ball off to a back. They also don't show how often he locks onto Moss and doesn't even look to any of his other wide receivers. Statistics also dont tell you how a qb acts under pressure, so from those numbers you wouldn't realize that Brunell dumps the ball off as soon as there is any rush, instead of stepping up in the pocket. Is Brunell the only reason why we are losing? Of course not. Is he a major reason for why our offense is struggling? IMO Yes.
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aswas71788 wrote:I was just looking at some stats. In last Sundays game, Brunell completed 27 passes for 226 yards. That equals 8.37 yards per pass. Not very effective, is it?


Yes when you consider that the league average is between 6 and 7.


no, it isn't. that is 100% false.

the league average is between 6 and 7 yards per ATTEMPT. here are some average yards per completion:

manning ----12.36
mcnabb -----14.93
bulger -------12.64
carr ---------10.05
huard -------11.18
rivers -------10.72
harrington --10.60
frye ---------9.58
losman -----10.77
vick ---------11.79

need i go on? 8.37 yards per completion is garbage. especially with the WRs we have.

what's even more horiffic is the fact that despite being down by THREE TOUCHDOWNS (or 2 TDs, 2 2-point conversions, and a FG, if you want to go that way), the yards per completion was STILL abysmally low. this is because brunell attempted TWO passes that went more than 15 or 20 yards in the air from the point we were down by 19 points.
this is a situation where completion percentage should go down, while yards per completion skyrockets, because the only chance of victory is to score quickly. instead, we continued checking down, dumping off, and running the ball on 2 incredibly time-consuming drives.

there are 2 messages to be had from this:
1. mark brunell gives this team absolutely no chance to win a game when we're getting seriously behind (which is going to happen more this year with the D we have)
2. the coaches (or at least saunders specifically) knows this. the continual runs in this situation essentially announced "the game is over, we have no hope of winning, so let's try to just get out of here with a little dignity, a few more yards, a few more points".
one does not take this route, one does not keep calling RUNS when down by 19, if he has any faith whatsoever in his QB.
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SkinzCanes wrote:If Brunell throws a 3 yard pass on 3rd and 10 it boosts his completion percentage and his qb rating, but it doesn't do anything to help the team convert the first down.


A three yard completion would hurt his quarterback rating. The break-even point for Brunell would be around a 5.5-yard completion.

EDIT: This actually isn't true. A one-yard completion would keep Mark Brunell's quarterback rating the same (90.37). A completion of two yards or greater will raise his quarterback rating. My mistake.
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SkinzCanes wrote:Enough with the statisitcs already. They don't tell the whole story. If Brunell throws a 3 yard pass on 3rd and 10 it boosts his completion percentage and his qb rating, but it doesn't do anything to help the team convert the first down. Statistics also don't show how often Brunell has receivers open downfield and instead of throwing to them he dumps the ball off to a back. They also don't show how often he locks onto Moss and doesn't even look to any of his other wide receivers. Statistics also dont tell you how a qb acts under pressure, so from those numbers you wouldn't realize that Brunell dumps the ball off as soon as there is any rush, instead of stepping up in the pocket. Is Brunell the only reason why we are losing? Of course not. Is he a major reason for why our offense is struggling? IMO Yes.


everything you said is spot on.

brunell is not the only reason we're losing, of course. i've said before, he might be a decent QB for the ravens or someone like that, but not for us, not with our poor defense this year and our WRs that are being COMPLETELY wasted. every time i hear commentators talk about how steve smith is the most explosive WR in football, i can't help but think of how shameful it is that brunell is holding moss back from being mentioned along with him.

anyone can see that brunell chokes the life out of this offense. we all sit around and wonder how we can look so effective in the 1st half (on occasion) and then so utterly horrible in the 2nd.

the answer is incredibly simple: we get the screens and dump-offs working, and ONLY those, and at some point the other team adjusts to shut all that stuff off. this SHOULD be the point in the game where we go deep to capitalize on the lack of deep coverage, but instead brunell insists on running the EXACT same short game and it gets shut down.

right at the moment our offense should be taking off, it crumbles. this is 100% brunell's fault, no way around it.
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Mark Brunell doesn't play safety.
Mark Brunell doesn't play corner.
Mark Brunell doesn't play defensive end.
Mark Brunell doesn't play weakside LB.
Mark Brunell doesn't play right tackle.
Mark Brunell doesn't kick Field Goals.
Mark Brunell doesn't call plays.
Mark Brunell doesn't make personell moves.

Bottom line...Mark Brunell is NOT to blame for every one of the Redskin' s problems...get over yourselves because this isn't a video game.
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The Hogster wrote:Mark Brunell doesn't play safety.
Mark Brunell doesn't play corner.
Mark Brunell doesn't play defensive end.
Mark Brunell doesn't play weakside LB.
Mark Brunell doesn't play right tackle.
Mark Brunell doesn't kick Field Goals.
Mark Brunell doesn't call plays.
Mark Brunell doesn't make personell moves.

Bottom line...Mark Brunell is NOT to blame for every one of the Redskin' s problems...get over yourselves because this isn't a video game.



I do not think anyone means to blame all of the Redskins' problems on Brunell. Instead, people are asking whether this team can get to the next level with Brunell at the helm. Even if the team could turn things around and win 8 of the next 9 and sneak into the playoffs, do you really think Brunell has what it takes to win a Superbowl? A great leader makes everyone around him a better player. Do you think Brunell can bring out the full potential of Moss, Lloyd, Randal El and Cooley? I do not think so.
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The Hogster wrote:Mark Brunell doesn't play safety.
Mark Brunell doesn't play corner.
Mark Brunell doesn't play defensive end.
Mark Brunell doesn't play weakside LB.
Mark Brunell doesn't play right tackle.
Mark Brunell doesn't kick Field Goals.
Mark Brunell doesn't call plays.
Mark Brunell doesn't make personell moves.

Bottom line...Mark Brunell is NOT to blame for every one of the Redskin' s problems...get over yourselves because this isn't a video game.


did i make any mention of the defense in my post? i was talking about the offense.

what i find so incredibly bizzarre is people's need to assign "blame" rather than find solutions to problems. yes, we all know the defense sucks this year. i don't think ANYone is denying that. i myself have said if we had simply kept the SAME exact defense as last year, we would be at least 4-3 right now.

but most sensible people aren't wasting their time harping on the defense, because there is little that can be done to change that right now. we made horrible free agent moves on defense in the offseason, and it's biting us in the butt. some minor adjustments can be made i'm sure, but overall, this is the defense we're stuck with.

we are NOT stuck with mark brunell! there are other options! if our coach had even the slightest connection left with reality he would realize this. no sensible person who has watched our games this season can possibly conclude that with this defense, mark brunell gives us a viable chance to win enough of our remaining games to make the playoffs.

brunell is either unwilling or unable to stretch the field even SLIGHTLY, which results in the other teams crowding the short stuff and shutting it down. you know this. everyone knows this. with our defense, we CAN NOT WIN many games this way. we MUST have a QB that can stretch the field (and i don't mean bombs on every play... even 15-20 yard completions from time to time would suffice [you know, the kind every other remotely decent QB in the league completes ROUTINELY in every game]).

it's not about who's fault it is. it's about what we can change to make it better. it's also about the fact that this season is DONE and we need to work toward next year. maybe campbell can't make the offense better right now, but we need to have him play 9 games to either get him ready for next year, or realize that he sucks so we can acquire a new QB in the offseason.
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die cowboys die wrote:
The Hogster wrote:Mark Brunell doesn't play safety.
Mark Brunell doesn't play corner.
Mark Brunell doesn't play defensive end.
Mark Brunell doesn't play weakside LB.
Mark Brunell doesn't play right tackle.
Mark Brunell doesn't kick Field Goals.
Mark Brunell doesn't call plays.
Mark Brunell doesn't make personell moves.

Bottom line...Mark Brunell is NOT to blame for every one of the Redskin' s problems...get over yourselves because this isn't a video game.


did i make any mention of the defense in my post? i was talking about the offense.

what i find so incredibly bizzarre is people's need to assign "blame" rather than find solutions to problems. yes, we all know the defense sucks this year. i don't think ANYone is denying that. i myself have said if we had simply kept the SAME exact defense as last year, we would be at least 4-3 right now.

but most sensible people aren't wasting their time harping on the defense, because there is little that can be done to change that right now. we made horrible free agent moves on defense in the offseason, and it's biting us in the butt. some minor adjustments can be made i'm sure, but overall, this is the defense we're stuck with.

we are NOT stuck with mark brunell! there are other options! if our coach had even the slightest connection left with reality he would realize this. no sensible person who has watched our games this season can possibly conclude that with this defense, mark brunell gives us a viable chance to win enough of our remaining games to make the playoffs.

brunell is either unwilling or unable to stretch the field even SLIGHTLY, which results in the other teams crowding the short stuff and shutting it down. you know this. everyone knows this. with our defense, we CAN NOT WIN many games this way. we MUST have a QB that can stretch the field (and i don't mean bombs on every play... even 15-20 yard completions from time to time would suffice [you know, the kind every other remotely decent QB in the league completes ROUTINELY in every game]).

it's not about who's fault it is. it's about what we can change to make it better. it's also about the fact that this season is DONE and we need to work toward next year. maybe campbell can't make the offense better right now, but we need to have him play 9 games to either get him ready for next year, or realize that he sucks so we can acquire a new QB in the offseason.


dcd scores again, this time with the realization that it's not so much the long ball Brunell can't throw as that fifteen to twenty five yard frozen rope that teams routinely complete in the NFL. Without those passes, the safties can lad back deep to stop Moss and Lloyd on the fly and everyone else can jamb the box. Brunell is particularly bad at throwing medium range passes over the middle, partly because of his height and poor mobility and partly because his arm can't consistently do it.
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Mursilis wrote:.. if he's not helping us win, he's helping us lose.


:hmm:

This comment was made about Brunell but I assume it applies to everybody? Does this mean we should also not start all the others that are "helping us lose"? :shock:

We all agree that Campbell should be the starter but I am just interested that so many people here think it is just because of Brunell when so many other players on this team are not playing well.

There are a couple of fans here who are so outraged that they have asked for people to physically harm our QB and some have just dismissed Gibbs. That is just not constructive and those suggestions are really not helpful.
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This team has become a bad team all around. They are not following the usual trend of a team that has this much talent on offense with the ability to score points in bunches, only to lose because the defense gives up more.

If you look at some of the highest scoring teams in the NFL over the last 20-25 years, not many have been successful at scoring points in bunches and shutting people down. It's either one or the other.

With this team, we don't even have the scoring punch so that basically makes us bad all-around like the Raiders, Texans, 49ers, etc... When you talent at WR, TE, and RB, you have to have someone that can get them the ball. Yes we can blame the O-Line for not give this guy the protection he's needs but just like the initials NFL, the amount of time you have to throw is Not For Long. With defensive coordinators send more blitzes and the advent of the speedy LB paying DE, QBs in this league have to have three things going for them. 1. Quick release; 2. The ability to scramble or move; 3. The ability to check-down or audible to counter-act the defense. None of which our current starting QB has. He used to have it years ago but not now.

I see our arch-enemies in Texas are going through a similar deal with their QB situation. Bledsoe is a statue (who's arm is getting weaker) with talent at WR and TE, with a marginal O-Line and a so-so RB. The only exception is that Parcells ain't concerned about the feelings of grown men who make a helluva lot of money and his loyalty to a QB. He is only as loyal as the amount of wins he gets out of his QB. He and Bledsoe have a history and we see that, that doesn't matter. The Cow-punks have a better shot at making the playoffs then we do but he ain't afraid to make a change.
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SkinsJock wrote:We all agree that Campbell should be the starter but I am just interested that so many people here think it is just because of Brunell when so many other players on this team are not playing well.


Because changing the quarterback can change the chemistry, the attitude, and the indentity of the whole team overnight.

For all other key positions, you can find a way to play your best players all at once. For example, if you have two great linebackers, you can play them both at the same time. The same is true for linemen, safeties, cornerbacks, running backs and wide receivers.

But you cannot play your two best quarterbacks at the same time.
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Changing the QB can change the chemistry of the offense, they can rise up to play as they should. Who can continue to get up every Sunday when you have a QB that will only throw the ball to 1 WR or a RB in the flat or occasionally to the TE? This whole team is taking on the character of the coach and the QB and in today's NFL that isn't a good thing, We all know we need people with mean intentions, we need a QB that will get in the face of the players and challange them, we have a Mr. Nice Guy at the top and a Mr. Nice Guy at QB, sorry we need people with a kill em attitude. This whole season has centered around an identity, Gibbs has said core redskins and super smart character guys so many times that if I hear it again I might go bezerk, well sorry but in the case of the Redskins we need what Pacman said about the Titans a few weeks back, we need some Thugs or better yet a mean spirited player that the other team mates can respect, I mean as men do we rise up more to people asking nicely would you please play hard, or a drill sargeant's way of getting perfection? It's just a thought. For me Gibbs needs to cut the nice guy crap, he needs to let it be known to all his displeasure and he needs to stop screwing things up! If Al Saunders was brought here to run the offense then dammit let him run the offense with the people he believes will give this team the best chance to win. Because evidently Gibbs saying MB gives them the best chance to win might had validity to it last year, however Gibbs isn't the person to make that judgement being HC or not because Gibbs evidently doesn't understand that this isn't a power run first offense anymore it's a passing motion misdirection offense that needs a mobile QB to make choices on the fly. I mean let's face it Gibbs isn't getting it and perhaps Al Saunders needs to either tell Gibbs he is starting Collins or Campbell or he walks, point blank Brunell can't run this offense at all and it's sickening to look at these games with him at the helm.
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Steve Spurrier III wrote:
SkinzCanes wrote:If Brunell throws a 3 yard pass on 3rd and 10 it boosts his completion percentage and his qb rating, but it doesn't do anything to help the team convert the first down.


Actually, a three yard completion would hurt his quarterback rating. The break-even point for Brunell would be around a 5.5-yard completion.


His rating is stellar because of all the 3rd and 10 downs, he throws for 8 yards. Or on 3rd and 7, the 4 yard dump off. Great for the rating, but doesn't sustain drives at all. And defenses will give that up all day, because that means a punt barring some miraculous effort involving broken tackles by Cooley, Moss or Portis.
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The Hogster wrote:Mark Brunell doesn't play safety.
Mark Brunell doesn't play corner.
Mark Brunell doesn't play defensive end.
Mark Brunell doesn't play weakside LB.
Mark Brunell doesn't play right tackle.
Mark Brunell doesn't kick Field Goals.
Mark Brunell doesn't call plays.
Mark Brunell doesn't make personell moves.

Bottom line...Mark Brunell is NOT to blame for every one of the Redskin' s problems...get over yourselves because this isn't a video game.


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1niksder wrote:
FiveWidez wrote:Look, I respect everyone's opinions and up until this week I was pro-Gibbs and even pro-Brunell but the reality is it will take a miracle to salvage this season. To not go with Campbell is, IMO, wasting each week. We HAVE to see what he's got. We HAVE to find a long-term QB to win here. Think about every team that has been good for the past few years....Eagles & McNabb, Colts & Peyton, Pats & Brady. Hell maybe we could even pull a Steelers and have a great one year run. Either way, I am sick of never having a franchise QB. How great would it be to have a QB we can count on being here every year? The only way we are going to find that is to play Campbell and if he isn't that guy, try again with another young QB, and then again and again until we find someone who will be behind center for a long time. I am so damn sick of this crap.


If I read this in a 3rd thread cut and pasted word for word, what should I think?

a. FiveWidez really doesn't mean what he is posting but thinks if he post the same thing in enough threads He'll believe it.

b. FiveWidez maxed out when he came up with this one so it's ok to break the rules (this is the 2nd thread this post is in - the other came with a note to the Mods)

c. FiveWidez has seen so many anti-Brunell the same thought keeps popping off his keyboard.

I don't know what I should think....


All you had to do was tell me that its not appropriate to post that way. I expect more courtesy from a staff person.
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FiveWidez wrote:
The Hogster wrote:Mark Brunell doesn't play safety.
Mark Brunell doesn't play corner.
Mark Brunell doesn't play defensive end.
Mark Brunell doesn't play weakside LB.
Mark Brunell doesn't play right tackle.
Mark Brunell doesn't kick Field Goals.
Mark Brunell doesn't call plays.
Mark Brunell doesn't make personell moves.

Bottom line...Mark Brunell is NOT to blame for every one of the Redskin' s problems...get over yourselves because this isn't a video game.


Mark Brunell doesn't play quarterback


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FiveWidez wrote:
The Hogster wrote:Mark Brunell doesn't play safety.
Mark Brunell doesn't play corner.
Mark Brunell doesn't play defensive end.
Mark Brunell doesn't play weakside LB.
Mark Brunell doesn't play right tackle.
Mark Brunell doesn't kick Field Goals.
Mark Brunell doesn't call plays.
Mark Brunell doesn't make personell moves.

Bottom line...Mark Brunell is NOT to blame for every one of the Redskin' s problems...get over yourselves because this isn't a video game.


Mark Brunell doesn't play quarterback


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The Hogster wrote: FYI Brunell has a higher passer rating, more yards, more yards per attempt, and a higher yards per pass average than Tom Brady...problem is...we're not winning, and that is a team thing and not solely an individual thing.
11 M. Brunell QB, WAS 132 206 64.1 1465 7.11 74 7 3.4 3 1.5 11.0 83 90.4
12 Tom Brady QB, NWE 106 189 56.1 1226 6.49 35 10 5.3 3 1.6 9.0 66 86.9


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistic ... &year=2006


Finally found some numbers separating yards after catch from total yards. Comparing Brady and Brunell again, we get:

Brunell - 1465 yds. total passing, with 864 yrds (59%) of those being YAC (yards after catch).

Brady - 1226 yds. total passing, with 527 yds. (43%) of those being YAC.

Hence, Brunell has only 'earned' 41% of his yards, and the rest of his stats have been courtesy of Moss and the rest of the receiving corp. By comparison, Brady's 'earned' 57% of his yards, and his receiving corp has provided the rest. Without the YAC, Brunell averages only 4.6 yrds/completion, compared with Brady's 6.6 yrds/completion. Brunell leads the league in the YAC/total yds. ratio, which means he's being carried by his recievers more than any other QB in the league. Hope he buys those guys some nice Christmas presents - they're saving his job!
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Mursilis wrote:
The Hogster wrote: FYI Brunell has a higher passer rating, more yards, more yards per attempt, and a higher yards per pass average than Tom Brady...problem is...we're not winning, and that is a team thing and not solely an individual thing.
11 M. Brunell QB, WAS 132 206 64.1 1465 7.11 74 7 3.4 3 1.5 11.0 83 90.4
12 Tom Brady QB, NWE 106 189 56.1 1226 6.49 35 10 5.3 3 1.6 9.0 66 86.9


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistic ... &year=2006


Finally found some numbers separating yards after catch from total yards. Comparing Brady and Brunell again, we get:

Brunell - 1465 yds. total passing, with 864 yrds (59%) of those being YAC (yards after catch).

Brady - 1226 yds. total passing, with 527 yds. (43%) of those being YAC.

Hence, Brunell has only 'earned' 41% of his yards, and the rest of his stats have been courtesy of Moss and the rest of the receiving corp. By comparison, Brady's 'earned' 57% of his yards, and his receiving corp has provided the rest. Without the YAC, Brunell averages only 4.6 yrds/completion, compared with Brady's 6.6 yrds/completion. Brunell leads the league in the YAC/total yds. ratio, which means he's being carried by his recievers more than any other QB in the league. Hope he buys those guys some nice Christmas presents - they're saving his job!
:hmm: who cares? Isn't it the job of the qb to run the offense to gain yards? If Brunell throws for 300 yards and three scores and 297 yards are YAC, and Tom Brady throws for 600 yards in the air but only scores 2 touchdowns, who wins?

I understand that some want campbell, and I even agree that we need to throw downfield more in order to open up the offense a bit more, but seperating YAC from total yards is completely irrelevent IMHO.
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JansenFan wrote:
Mursilis wrote:
The Hogster wrote: FYI Brunell has a higher passer rating, more yards, more yards per attempt, and a higher yards per pass average than Tom Brady...problem is...we're not winning, and that is a team thing and not solely an individual thing.
11 M. Brunell QB, WAS 132 206 64.1 1465 7.11 74 7 3.4 3 1.5 11.0 83 90.4
12 Tom Brady QB, NWE 106 189 56.1 1226 6.49 35 10 5.3 3 1.6 9.0 66 86.9


http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statistic ... &year=2006


Finally found some numbers separating yards after catch from total yards. Comparing Brady and Brunell again, we get:

Brunell - 1465 yds. total passing, with 864 yrds (59%) of those being YAC (yards after catch).

Brady - 1226 yds. total passing, with 527 yds. (43%) of those being YAC.

Hence, Brunell has only 'earned' 41% of his yards, and the rest of his stats have been courtesy of Moss and the rest of the receiving corp. By comparison, Brady's 'earned' 57% of his yards, and his receiving corp has provided the rest. Without the YAC, Brunell averages only 4.6 yrds/completion, compared with Brady's 6.6 yrds/completion. Brunell leads the league in the YAC/total yds. ratio, which means he's being carried by his recievers more than any other QB in the league. Hope he buys those guys some nice Christmas presents - they're saving his job!
:hmm: who cares? Isn't it the job of the qb to run the offense to gain yards? If Brunell throws for 300 yards and three scores and 297 yards are YAC, and Tom Brady throws for 600 yards in the air but only scores 2 touchdowns, who wins?


Well, in your hypothetical, Brunell wins. But in real life Brady (5-1 as a starter this year, .76 as a starter the past three years) sure beats Brunell (2-5 this year, .45 as a starter over the past three years).

I understand that some want campbell, and I even agree that we need to throw downfield more in order to open up the offense a bit more, but seperating YAC from total yards is completely irrelevent IMHO.


It's not irrelevant - it demonstrates that our receivers are making Brunell appear much better than he is. The typical Brunell completion averages only 4.6 yrds through the air, but is turned into a 11.1 yrd gain, on average, due to great effort by our receivers. The talent at WR/TE/RB is clearly carrying Brunell. Most any QB could come in and do that. Brunell's got the lowest 'earned' yds/pass ratio in the entire league.
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Hmm who cares? Isn't it the job of the qb to run the offense to gain yards? If Brunell throws for 300 yards and three scores and 297 yards are YAC, and Tom Brady throws for 600 yards in the air but only scores 2 touchdowns, who wins?


The qb isn't running the offense when he consistantly throws 3 or 4 yard passes when it's 3rd and long.

Brunell has completed 132 passes so far this season. Of those 132 completions, 112, or 85% have been thrown either behind the line of scrimmage or for less than 10 yards. On those completions he is averaging around 6 yards per attempt. When Brunell throws the ball 10-20 yards downfield he is completing only 32.3% of his passes. Not sure what your definition of running an offense is, but to me it seems like Brunell is doing a pathetic job.
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I should add that I don't really think that Campbell can do that much better than Brunell this season. I think that his mobility would make a difference and his ability to throw down field should open up more running lanes for Portis and the other backs, which should help the offense somewhat. My main reason for wanting Campbell in is to see what the kid has. We gave up a lot to draft him and we need to figure out if he is going to be able to lead this team in the future. Personally, I'm not too confident in Campbell's abilites and didn't think that drafting him in the first round was a smart idea. Hopefully I'm proven wrong because this team needs some continuity and the best way to get that would be to have a young qb that can play well for the next 5 or 6 seasons (hopefully longer).
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Here are how the Redskins rank in some various statistcs:

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OFFENSE
Interceptions per attempt:     3
Completion Percentage:         5
Quarterback Rating:           10
Yards per passing attempt:    11
Sacks allowed per attempt:    11
Yards per completion:         17
Passing First Downs:          20-t
                 
3rd Down Conversion Pct:      13
Time of Possesion:            16

Rushing First Downs:           3
Yards per rushing attempt:     4

DEFENSE
Opp. completion percentage:   23
Opp. 3rd Down conversion pct: 25
Opp. yards per attempt:       28
Sacks per opp. attempt:       29
Opp. quarterback rating:      30 (101.4)
Int. per opp. attempt:        31

Yards per rush allowed:       13-t
Rushing First Downs:          23


The achillies heel of this team is its passing defense, not its passing offense. I believe its time for Campbell because the season is shot, but blaming Brunell for this year's failures is ridiculous. Sonny Jurgensen could have quarterbacked this team, and we still would have sucked. No quarterback can overcome questionable play-calling, a miserable defense, a shaky (at best) kicking game and an NFL-leading amount of penalties and penalty yardage. And if you think I'm wrong, just wait until Campbell finally does get to play - it's going to be ugly.
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