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nuskins wrote:Boy, I sure am glad that the FL taxpayers money is being put to good use! <sarcasm> FL will be a much safer place with Sean Taylor locked up and off the streets, can you imagine someone trying to defend the theft of their personal property? What a felon! <sarcasm> Not to mention that the victims in this case are habitual offenders!

FL must get this disciplined, hard working athelete off of their streets so everyone can sleep better at night. The poor thug victims in this case who stole property are in no way more of a threat than a hard working professional athelete! <sarcasm> Those boys were just stealin, nothing wrong with that but this guy Taylor pulls a gun on the thiefs and doesn't discharge but he is the real menace. <sarcasm> Never mind that later the thiefs come back and shoot up his truck with bullets, those boys were just shootin around and being boys!


Let's get this guy taylor off the streets so the bluehairs will be safe at night. Thiefs and habitual offenders are OK in FL, just not the people who try and defend themselves and their property from these guys!

PS...please note the extreme sarcasm this post was written in.

Maybe Sean should have called the police, waited for a few hours before they showed up, filed a report with them, waited for a few months before the police get back to him stating there are no leads in the case and he his SOL.

Meanwhile his ATV's have been chopped up or sold on ebay to feed some drug habits of some good solid FL citizens!

Sounds like a great way to spend some taxpayer money to me

Maybe Sean Taylor will be rich enough some day to hire a bodyguard who will get in trouble for him.

Skinsfan55 wrote:I understand the need to protect yourself, but there's a right and a wrong way to do it.

Sean went about it the wrong way, I'm sure Saen would tell you that himself. Hindshight is 20/20, had he done it the right way we wouldn't have this thread.

Skinsfan55 wrote:If someone is stealing your car, you're not allowed to shoot them in the back.

You could but then you'd have to replace the back window and drivers seat

Skinsfan55 wrote:If someone is leaving your home with an armload of stolen property you can't smash them in the head with a bat when you run them down two blocks away.

If they have a armload of your stuff and it takes 2 blocks for you to catch up, a bat would definately be the wrong way to do it. In this case a Glock might be justified

Skinsfan55 wrote:People should be able to trust the system to work, because if you know how to use it, it does.

You're home in the off season visting friends and family and a couple of career criminals steals your ATVs, and shoot up your SUV. You retaliate and the system finds out. You get arrested, charged and facing 46 years in prison. While those who got this whole ball of mess rolling were free to go off and "aquire" more ATVs. As more proof the system should be trusted it offers to forego the trail (and 46 years) for a simple "yeah I did it" and promise not to do it again. You can trust that if you want. If it were me (with a lot less to lose than Sean), and this went down the same way... I wouldn't take the plea.

Skinsfan55 wrote:I really wish there were more effective police cooperation education going on in public schools, but no matter what you do there's always one or two idiot policemen than violate the trust of those they are trying to protect.

I'm not sure what you are refering to here, I haven't heard of any wrong doing by the police in this case. Just a guy that wants to make a name for himself and going about it the wrong way.

On a side note:

nuskin wrote:Boy, I sure am glad that the FL taxpayers money is being put to good use!

We don't pay a State tax down, so we kick in about as much as you do on this one

Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor 's trial on felony assault charges has been rescheduled for April 17 in Miami.

The trial, which had been set to begin Monday, was moved back because of Passover, as well as a court holiday April 14, according to prosecutor Mike Grieco .

Washington Post

nuskin wrote:Boy, I sure am glad that the FL taxpayers money is being put to good use!

1niksder wrote:We don't pay a State tax down, so we kick in about as much as you do on this one

OMG No wonder all the people on fixed incomes move there, FL get's the rest of the country and federal goverment to subsidize the state! Or do you have a heavy sales tax or somthing? Seems unfair that you don't pay state income tax, how is the loss of revenue made up?

This case is a fookin joke!

Free Sean Taylor!

Oh yeah, did the thieves ever get charged for theft? What about when they came back and shot up his truck, were they arrested for that? If they were how were they back on the streets getting arrested again for theft? I have never heard what the thieves have been charged with in the case. Seems like a total witch hunt to me, gangsta thugs don't bring the news trucks anymore but NFL stars do!!!!

What a crock of poo....

nuskins wrote:FL get's the rest of the country and federal goverment to subsidize the state! Or do you have a heavy sales tax or somthing? Seems unfair that you don't pay state income tax, how is the loss of revenue made up?

Texas has no state income tax also. I'm sure Florida makes it back in sales and property tax.

nuskins wrote:OMG No wonder all the people on fixed incomes move there, FL get's the rest of the country and federal goverment to subsidize the state! Or do you have a heavy sales tax or somthing? Seems unfair that you don't pay state income tax, how is the loss of revenue made up?

Your post is garbage. FL happens to be one of the wealthiest states in the union...have you heard of Miami, Key West, Orlando, etc. Those big tourism bucks help take some of the burden. We don't have to pay state income tax because we can afford the citizens a break. One of the ways FL makes up for this loss of potential revenue is by tolling several main roads. Our sales tax, depending on county, is pretty average.

If you think it's unfair for us not to pay state income tax, maybe you should write your congressman/woman.

AZHog wrote:

nuskins wrote:OMG No wonder all the people on fixed incomes move there, FL get's the rest of the country and federal goverment to subsidize the state! Or do you have a heavy sales tax or somthing? Seems unfair that you don't pay state income tax, how is the loss of revenue made up?

Your post is garbage. FL happens to be one of the wealthiest states in the union...have you heard of Miami, Key West, Orlando, etc. Those big tourism bucks help take some of the burden. We don't have to pay state income tax because we can afford the citizens a break. One of the ways FL makes up for this loss of potential revenue is by tolling several main roads. Our sales tax, depending on county, is pretty average.

If you think it's unfair for us not to pay state income tax, maybe you should write your congressman/woman.

Wow, thanks for the attacking response All you had to do is tell me about the State sponsored toll roads b/c those things generate far more revenue than any income tax ever would. But what do I know, I'm from poor little W. Virginia, not a great wealthy state like your FL

Now back on topic. As a Floridian how do you feel about your state prosecuting S.Taylor in this case while the thieves are running around committing more crimes?

FL's anti-gun legislation is a token measure meant to pacify left-wing activists. I am personally own two registered firearms. However, I'm certainly not in favor of brandishing them at anyone, especially when lives aren't in danger. If you point a gun at someone, it should only be to pull the trigger. It's just that plain and simple. I don't know all the facts of the case, however 46 years of potential jail-time does seem rather harsh.

nuskins wrote:OMG No wonder all the people on fixed incomes move there

nuskins wrote:Wow, thanks for the attacking response All you had to do is tell me about the State sponsored toll roads b/c those things generate far more revenue than any income tax ever would. But what do I know, I'm from poor little W. Virginia, not a great wealthy state like your FL

Dude -- you have the nerve to suggest that all the people on fixed incomes live in MY state and you live where?!?! I'll gladly call a statment like that on the carpet anyday.

AZHog wrote:Those big tourism bucks help take some of the burden.

Tell me about it! The hotel tax in Orlando is 11.5% - every time we take the kids to Disney World, we leave a nice little 'tip' in the state and local treasuries!!

What was the original topic again?

Mursilis wrote:

AZHog wrote:Those big tourism bucks help take some of the burden.

Tell me about it! The hotel tax in Orlando is 11.5% - every time we take the kids to Disney World, we leave a nice little 'tip' in the state and local treasuries!!

What was the original topic again?

I feel ya -- we'll be paying it to take the kids over there this summer, too!

Sorry for the rant all...just a little overly-zealous, I guess.

trial pushed back again... this is getting annoying...

Redskins S Sean Taylor's trial postponed again

The Associated Press
MIAMI
Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor's felony assault trial was postponed for a fifth time Wednesday because of scheduling conflicts associated with the Passover and Easter holidays.

The case was moved back one week, from April 10 to April 17.

The 23-year-old Taylor faces up to 46 years in prison if convicted on three aggravated assault charges and one misdemeanor battery charge stemming from a June 1 armed confrontation with a group of people in a dispute over all-terrain vehicles that Taylor owns. Taylor has pleaded not guilty and is free on $16,500 bail.

The case appears headed for trial after one of Taylor's lawyers said Tuesday that his client would not accept a plea deal that would require him to admit to a felony. Also on Tuesday, Miami-Dade County Circuit Court Judge Mary Barzee rejected a motion to dismiss the case.

The trial was originally scheduled for Sept. 12, but it was postponed several times so as not to interfere with the NFL season.

http://www.theledger.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ ... /604051110

AZHog wrote:

Mursilis wrote:

AZHog wrote:Those big tourism bucks help take some of the burden.

Tell me about it! The hotel tax in Orlando is 11.5% - every time we take the kids to Disney World, we leave a nice little 'tip' in the state and local treasuries!!

What was the original topic again?

I feel ya -- we'll be paying it to take the kids over there this summer, too!

Sorry for the rant all...just a little overly-zealous, I guess.

What are you guys ranting about? Whats really important is Sean Taylor gonna play next year or what?

Reportedly pushed back again - to May 8!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/football/nfl/04/12/bc.fbn.redskins.taylor.ap/index.html

Reading the article it looks like this dude greico is really kicking his own ass on this one! Momentum is rolling in Sean's favor and it looks like he is going to get off scott free!

Free Sean Taylor!

AZHog wrote:46 years of potential jail-time does seem rather harsh.

IMO, if you point a gun at someone and shoot at them, in a non-life-threatening situation, 46 years in prison seems a little light to me.

Seriously, 46 years is a long time to spend in prison when no one was shot, injured, etc. That type of time should be used for people that hurt other people.

AZHOG, why are you calling Florida "your State" when I look under your name and see AZ as your home State?

Oh, and this case is getting bumped AGAIN!?!?!?!!?

I wonder when the "SPEEDY TRIAL" issue will be raised here? If it's a joint-request for a continuance, that won't happen; however, if it's the prosecutor that keeps getting this case bumped, we may see this issue raised eventually.

IMO, if you point a gun at someone and shoot at them, in a non-life-threatening situation, 46 years in prison seems a little light to me. icon_biggrin.gif

Taylor hasn't been accused of actually discharging the gun. In fact it was his SUV that was shot at during the incident.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu ... D=28631678

That's Grieco's MySpace page. I think we should all post our thoughts about Sean's case on there.

MIAMI -- The trial of 1. Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor on assault charges was delayed again Wednesday as defense lawyers raised misconduct allegations, charging the lead prosecutor with using the case to promote his moonlighting work as a nightclub disc jockey.
Miami-Dade Circuit Judge Mary Barzee agreed to delay the trial for a sixth time, this time from Monday until May 8. Taylor faces a minimum of three years in prison on each of three aggravated assault charges stemming from a June 1 armed confrontation in a Miami neighborhood.
Taylor's attorney, Richard Sharpstein, said outside the courtroom that he will file a motion this week seeking to dismiss the charges because of alleged "inappropriate and unethical" prosecutorial conduct by Michael Grieco, the assistant state attorney handling the case.
Sharpstein said Grieco had improperly posted news articles about the Taylor case on a Web site that promotes his side business as a DJ in Miami Beach clubs. Although the articles could not be found on the site Wednesday, Sharpstein provided copies to reporters as well as the page -- titled "links to my press coverage" -- showing where the link had been located.
Grieco did not immediately respond to telephone and e-mail messages seeking comment. A spokesman for Miami-Dade County State Attorney Katherine Fernandez Rundle, who is Grieco's boss, also did not immediately return a call seeking comment.
Taylor is charged with three counts of aggravated assault with a firearm and one misdemeanor battery charge stemming from a dispute with a group of people over all-terrain vehicles that Taylor owns. Taylor, a former University of Miami star, is free on $16,500 bail.
Taylor has refused a plea deal in which he would receive probation in return for a guilty plea to a felony, Sharpstein said.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2406407

I just sent him a message calling him a no talent a#$ clown! Then I politley asked if he would drop the charges.

lead prosecutor with using the case to promote his moonlighting work as a nightclub disc jockey.

The Prosecutor is a DJ!?!

These charges may be dismissed.

At this rate, Taylor may retire and be in the hall of fame before this case ever goes to trial...

Dang......I must say I'm impressed with Taylor's lawyers. They are not leaving a stone unturned!