Right now Cambells confidence probably is extremely low. Its going to be very important that the coaches stress the positives more so than before. I just don't want JC to play scared.
He should have never tried to go to moss. Would have like to see him tuck and run.
Kruncher wrote:JC has started almost 20 games now. Hell even gay Romo is winning games. He should be able to conduct two minute drills without handing the other team the game.
u have to remember Romo was on the bench for atleast 3-4 years...b4 finally gettin his chance.
Campbell is only in his 2nd season and 1st full season...give him time to grow.
He has shown some great potential.
Be patient people.
Good times will come.
Surround him with better receivers....and more defensive players...i think will be fine..
frankcal20 wrote:Right now Cambells confidence probably is extremely low. Its going to be very important that the coaches stress the positives more so than before. I just don't want JC to play scared.
He should have never tried to go to moss. Would have like to see him tuck and run.
SCSkinsFan wrote:Please just don't let me hear the words, "We fought out guts out again today"!~
Hey bro...you will and that is absolute. lol
With 4 fumbles and 2 INT's you aren't going to win no matter how hard you fought your guts out. Everybody can just go look in the mirror and see where the problems are. We waited too late to wake up and get in this game. The big question is, "WHY?"
Kruncher wrote:JC has started almost 20 games now. Hell even gay Romo is winning games. He should be able to conduct two minute drills without handing the other team the game.
u have to remember Romo was on the bench for atleast 3-4 years...b4 finally gettin his chance. Campbell is only in his 2nd season and 1st full season...give him time to grow. He has shown some great potential. Be patient people. Good times will come. Surround him with better receivers....and more defensive players...i think will be fine..
I am patient. I was patient with Shuler, with Ramsey, with Brunell, and now JC. However, he threw a crucial int last week that cost us. this is a repeat, so where is the learning?
Kruncher wrote:JC has started almost 20 games now. Hell even gay Romo is winning games. He should be able to conduct two minute drills without handing the other team the game.
u have to remember Romo was on the bench for atleast 3-4 years...b4 finally gettin his chance. Campbell is only in his 2nd season and 1st full season...give him time to grow. He has shown some great potential. Be patient people. Good times will come. Surround him with better receivers....and more defensive players...i think will be fine..
Your last statement doesn't really work. The defense held TB to like 16 yds in the 2nd half total. As for receivers, Campbell had a ton of passing yds in the 2nd half. It was just two bad decisions made by a young qb. Hopefully he learns from it.
agreed about the players around him BUT 2 interceptions in the 4th qtr do not happen to a decent QB he's going to be very good but he needs to learn that that is inexcusable.
Peyton threw 4 picks two weeks ago. Int's happen to all qb's. It's a little ridiculous for this team to go down by two scores and then expect a young qb to play error free and lead a comeback every week.
ARRGH! He basically said it. Fought hard. Gave ourselves a chance to win. Proud of them. ARRRRGH! Hard to be proud of a team that doesn't realize the urgency to play well right off, and play without making the errors they made.
This is a 7-9 football team BEFORE the key injuries. If they get 7 wins out of this year with the injuries, then I'll consider it a success for Gibbs even though it has more to do with the crappy NFC. I'm just grateful I don't have to see Brunell making a mockery of the QB position any more.
Although losses like this make me want to destroy something, we got beat by a better team (even with Garcia out). We suck and will continue to do so as long as the current front office is intact.
agreed about the players around him BUT 2 interceptions in the 4th qtr do not happen to a decent QB he's going to be very good but he needs to learn that that is inexcusable.
Peyton threw 4 picks two weeks ago. Int's happen to all qb's. It's a little ridiculous for this team to go down by two scores and then expect a young qb to play error free and lead a comeback every week.
Well, I always feel thaty we are playing from behind and that is the only reason gets 300 yards passing in the first place. However, the INTs this week and last week have ultimately made sure we would not win those games. He threw two today and one last week that were crucial in determining the outcome of the game. There are other things that happen in the football game and we were overcoming most of those in the second half. I guess you drive down the field and it is all for not and you wonder why?
Kruncher wrote:JC has started almost 20 games now. Hell even gay Romo is winning games. He should be able to conduct two minute drills without handing the other team the game.
u have to remember Romo was on the bench for atleast 3-4 years...b4 finally gettin his chance. Campbell is only in his 2nd season and 1st full season...give him time to grow. He has shown some great potential. Be patient people. Good times will come. Surround him with better receivers....and more defensive players...i think will be fine..
I am patient. I was patient with Shuler, with Ramsey, with Brunell, and now JC. However, he threw a crucial int last week that cost us. this is a repeat, so where is the learning?
Well he lead comebacks in consecutive weeks on the road after the team was down by multiple scores the last 2 weeks. You can't just put the game on the shoulders of a young qb and expect perfection. He has throw 103 passes the last 2 weeks combined. When you throw the ball that many times you're going to have int's. He is definitely getting better. Lets also not forget that he wasn't the only one making mistakes out there today. The oline was absolute garbage. There were 5-6 dropped passes. CP had two fumbles, Moss fumbled, there was bad coaching and playcalling. This was a total team loss.
amadkins wrote:This is a 7-9 football team BEFORE the key injuries. If they get 7 wins out of this year with the injuries, then I'll consider it a success for Gibbs even though it has more to do with the crappy NFC. I'm just grateful I don't have to see Brunell making a mockery of the QB position any more.
Although losses like this make me want to destroy something, we got beat by a better team (even with Garcia out). We suck and will continue to do so as long as the current front office is intact.
I agree totally. This team was clearly illprepared for today's game.
OK - I see! we just keep letting him make these mistakes and sooner or later he's going to learn - that is just amazing logic - Manning can make these mistakes because he wins - we need a QB that makes mistakes and wins not a QB that needs reasons why he is not a winner!
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
Kruncher wrote:JC has started almost 20 games now. Hell even gay Romo is winning games. He should be able to conduct two minute drills without handing the other team the game.
u have to remember Romo was on the bench for atleast 3-4 years...b4 finally gettin his chance. Campbell is only in his 2nd season and 1st full season...give him time to grow. He has shown some great potential. Be patient people. Good times will come. Surround him with better receivers....and more defensive players...i think will be fine..
I am patient. I was patient with Shuler, with Ramsey, with Brunell, and now JC. However, he threw a crucial int last week that cost us. this is a repeat, so where is the learning?
Well he lead comebacks in consecutive weeks on the road after the team was down by multiple scores the last 2 weeks. You can't just put the game on the shoulders of a young qb and expect perfection. He has throw 103 passes the last 2 weeks combined. When you throw the ball that many times you're going to have int's. He is definitely getting better. Lets also not forget that he wasn't the only one making mistakes out there today. The oline was absolute garbage. There were 5-6 dropped passes. CP had two fumbles, Moss fumbled, there was bad coaching and playcalling. This was a total team loss.
No QB is perfect, however, you have to be near perfect when it counts and that is what separates successfyl QB careers from unsuccessful ones. I agree that many other factors led to us losing. However, when an opportunity presented itself to us to win, you hope and should expect that the guy you invested in and said is our QB comes through. The last two weeks he has not. He is getting better agree but is anyone saying JC those are bad passes and they cost us or is he getting the you fought your guts out today keep it up? Coaches should coach not be the good guy all the time.
OK, just saw the last INT on highlights. Moss was double covered, front and back. JC should definitely have chose another WR to go to. Oh, what could have been (again).
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amadkins wrote:This is a 7-9 football team BEFORE the key injuries. If they get 7 wins out of this year with the injuries, then I'll consider it a success for Gibbs even though it has more to do with the crappy NFC. I'm just grateful I don't have to see Brunell making a mockery of the QB position any more.
Although losses like this make me want to destroy something, we got beat by a better team (even with Garcia out). We suck and will continue to do so as long as the current front office is intact.
I agree totally. This team was clearly illprepared for today's game.
I agree. It is mostly mental and being smart, which is where the turnovers come into play. I mean, everyone says every week we cannot turn the ball over and what happens?? It gets turned over. The Skins lose in this fashion way too much is my observation, like way too much.
I love Campbell - we have a really good chance that he is going to make it BUT in this game you sit guys when they cost you the game and I'm sorry but with everything bad that happenede we still had a chance to win and this kid needs to learn that is not tolerated.
Anyone who cannot play without mistakes especially critical mistakes should be pulled.
Until recently, Snyder & Allen have made a lot of really bad decisions - nobody with any sense believes this franchise will get better under their guidance Snyder's W/L record = 45% (80-96) - Snyder/Allen = 41% (59-84-1)
we should be happy at the progress our QB is making....yes he fked up the last two weeks....this are the growing pains u have to go thru and learn from.
Shaq once said b4 u succeed u first have to learn how to fail.
We wont the superbowl this year...but all u want to see his improvement from our QB position...let JC go thru this...hopefully not alot more of these mistakes.
SkinsJock wrote:I love Campbell - we have a really good chance that he is going to make it BUT in this game you sit guys when they cost you the game and I'm sorry but with everything bad that happenede we still had a chance to win and this kid needs to learn that is not tolerated.
Anyone who cannot play without mistakes especially critical mistakes should be pulled.
I mean Brunell is on the bench right? We got rid of Ramsey! JC will be a good quarterback no doubt. My only concern is the team as a whole is not showing improvement. Campbell is throwing 50 or 60 times a game because we have to in order to give us a chance to win. So, he should get 300 yards passing. The INTs are a killer, always are and always will be.
So, we are now 5-6. Time to start the 5 in a row or we don't go theme all over again. I just hope the team realizes that's what it is probably going to take and plays like it.
SCSkinsFan wrote:So, we are now 5-6. Time to start the 5 in a row or we don't go theme all over again. I just hope the team realizes that's what it is probably going to take and plays like it.
I honestly believe we can win five in a row, but we have to prepare and ge a game plan that will allow us to do that. We have to get rid of mistakes as well.
