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Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:47 pm
by brad7686
frankcal20 wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.


How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.


missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE


That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.


There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.


Actually there are several leagues that develope players. Some still around, and some not. But just to name a few, Canadian Football League, Arena Football League, European Football Leage (No More) and lastly, the United Football League (starting 2009/2010). Feel free to speak with Jake Delhomme, Mike Sellers, Kurt Warner to name a few.


They aren't under the NFL teams control, which is my point.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:47 pm
by funbunchfever
brad7686 wrote:
funbunchfever wrote:I'm rooting for Lydon Murtha :)


He's big and fast, but soft as hell. Maybe buges could toughen him up.


Hey, no one's perfect at this point. And, yeah, Buges should be up to the task.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:48 pm
by GibbSkins
brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.


How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.


missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE


That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.


There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.



NFL.com says "but he's intriguing because of his athleticism and toughness."

Just say'n

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:49 pm
by frankcal20
brad7686 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.


How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.


missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE


That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.


There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.


Actually there are several leagues that develope players. Some still around, and some not. But just to name a few, Canadian Football League, Arena Football League, European Football Leage (No More) and lastly, the United Football League (starting 2009/2010). Feel free to speak with Jake Delhomme, Mike Sellers, Kurt Warner to name a few.


They aren't under the NFL teams control, which is my point.


That may be a good thing though and for the success of those leagues, they want to get the players into the NFL. That will help them sell seats with marketing tactics like "Come See Tommorows Starts."

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:50 pm
by brad7686
GibbSkins wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.


How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.


missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE


That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.


There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.



NFL.com says "but he's intriguing because of his athleticism and toughness."

Just say'n


Ok, he's intriguing. Matt Jones had the atheticism of a number one overall, he just couldn't play qb. Thats why he was able to develop into a WR. Its a shame his head was in the wrong place.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:51 pm
by funbunchfever
funbuncher wrote:If we're going to go looking for projects how bout some O-line?

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingr ... ollmer.php


Vollmer was picked by the Patriots in either the 2nd or 3rd round. You may have an eye for sleepers, though, as Belichek picked him up early.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:52 pm
by Gibbs4Life
Espn loves to talk raiders...my question is why


And again...Cody Glenn omg

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:54 pm
by funbunchfever
Gibbs4Life wrote:Espn loves to talk raiders...my question is why


Maybe because they run to the beat of their own drum. Or because Al Davis makes some CRAZY picks!

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:54 pm
by frankcal20
because they blew it on their first pick.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:54 pm
by brad7686
I'm going to be positive for a second and assume the skins are targeting an OT they know will go late. Although i'm sure i'm wrong.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:55 pm
by funbunchfever
brad7686 wrote:I'm going to be positive for a second and assume the skins are targeting an OT they know will go late. Although i'm sure i'm wrong.


Yeah, I was thinking maybe they were targeting that huge lineman from LSU, but he just went to the Cardinals.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:57 pm
by brad7686
they could be targeting Murtha. He has great size and speed

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:59 pm
by CanesSkins26
Cody Glenn....so sad I can't help but laugh. We LOVE to reach for players. Tryon, Rhinehardt, Brooks last year. Glenn this year.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:00 pm
by frankcal20
I could see them going after the kid from Georgia Tech. Think he's pretty good just needs to work some fundamentals.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:04 pm
by Skinsfan55
I wonder if they take a FB. Might keep Sellers quiet.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:05 pm
by funbunchfever
brad7686 wrote:they could be targeting Murtha. He has great size and speed


And some history of injuries, which would follow the trend of the first 3 picks. It looks like Vinny believes that's how to get value. Definitely boom or bust potential, I guess.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:05 pm
by frankcal20
If 3 out of the 6 picks we have play and contribute, I would consider that a successful draft.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:06 pm
by Kilmer72
Who knows why we drafted Cody Glenn? Wasn't he half way decent at short yards at the RB position?

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:07 pm
by frankcal20
Don't forget that Dexter Manly Jr. is out there too and I wouldn't be shocked if we took him in the 7th with our last pick. Heard he's a scrapper and something tells me his Dad has taught him a thing or two about getting to the passer.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:07 pm
by Gibbs4Life
Youtube has two clips listing Cody Glenn... one of him at RB and the other that says "Injured did not play" wow I'm so hype on this guy!

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:07 pm
by frankcal20
Kilmer72 wrote:Who knows why we drafted Cody Glenn? Wasn't he half way decent at short yards at the RB position?


I think he was a good RB overall. Just had some injury issues.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:09 pm
by frankcal20
Skins Select OLB in 5th Round

With the 158th pick just obtained from Minnesota, the Redskins have drafted Cody Glenn, an outside linebacker from Nebraska. He'll supply depth and special teams help.

Glenn was suspended from the team indefinitely and also faced a civil suit while at Nebraska. He spent three years as a tailback for the Cornhuskers and then switched to linebacker as a senior. Glenn's suspension arose from ticket scalping, according to a league source. He is very raw but certainly has athletic ability.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:09 pm
by brad7686
Mike Teel can play

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:10 pm
by frankcal20
As an NC State fan, yes he can. He blew us up in the 2nd half of our bowl game this year.

Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 4:12 pm
by brad7686
I gotta bolt, fun discussing a hectic and disappointing second day. Although its not over. Heres hoping it gets better.