OFFICIAL Washington Redskins Draft Day Discussion.

Talk about the Washington Football Team here. Do you bleed burgundy and gold?
User avatar
brad7686
B-rad
B-rad
Posts: 3124
youtube meble na wymiar Warszawa
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:46 am
Location: De La War

Post by brad7686 »

frankcal20 wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.


How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.


missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE


That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.


There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.


Actually there are several leagues that develope players. Some still around, and some not. But just to name a few, Canadian Football League, Arena Football League, European Football Leage (No More) and lastly, the United Football League (starting 2009/2010). Feel free to speak with Jake Delhomme, Mike Sellers, Kurt Warner to name a few.


They aren't under the NFL teams control, which is my point.
User avatar
funbunchfever
swine
Posts: 86
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:12 am

Post by funbunchfever »

brad7686 wrote:
funbunchfever wrote:I'm rooting for Lydon Murtha :)


He's big and fast, but soft as hell. Maybe buges could toughen him up.


Hey, no one's perfect at this point. And, yeah, Buges should be up to the task.
It's just a game.
User avatar
GibbSkins
Hog
Posts: 438
Joined: Tue Feb 10, 2004 12:47 am
Location: Carlisle Pa.
Contact:

Post by GibbSkins »

brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.


How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.


missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE


That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.


There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.



NFL.com says "but he's intriguing because of his athleticism and toughness."

Just say'n
"These are the times that try men's souls......Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph." --Thomas Paine
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

brad7686 wrote:
frankcal20 wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.


How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.


missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE


That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.


There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.


Actually there are several leagues that develope players. Some still around, and some not. But just to name a few, Canadian Football League, Arena Football League, European Football Leage (No More) and lastly, the United Football League (starting 2009/2010). Feel free to speak with Jake Delhomme, Mike Sellers, Kurt Warner to name a few.


They aren't under the NFL teams control, which is my point.


That may be a good thing though and for the success of those leagues, they want to get the players into the NFL. That will help them sell seats with marketing tactics like "Come See Tommorows Starts."
User avatar
brad7686
B-rad
B-rad
Posts: 3124
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:46 am
Location: De La War

Post by brad7686 »

GibbSkins wrote:
brad7686 wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
funbuncher wrote:
Skinsfan55 wrote:
BigSkinNig wrote:This is a terrible pick with Jamon starring you in the face. OL depth, perhaps even a future starter, is far more important than a special teamer, who we wont develop and will likely cut in two years becaue we are the Redskins.


How are you qualified to say who is NFL worthy and who is not? SEVEN NFL teams since the 3rd round passed on Meredith. Including his new team Green Bay. For you to say he's a future starter or even that he is a better pick than Cody Glenn is just plain silly.


missing the point. not about Glenn's worthiness. it's about value. drafting Tom brady in the 1st round is technically stupid if you can get him in the 6th. drafting a guy that likely wasn't going to be drafted is not getting bang for your draft buck. it's compounded by the fact that it's at the expense of not addressing what is universally considered a top team need. OFFENSIVE LINE


That is not at all what the first poster said. But to your point we don't know these team's draft boards, or the process. If he had gone undrafted who says he signs with us? We saw a guy we wanted in a position we thought we could get him and we pounced. The Redskins are actually working the phones talking with other teams in in their opinion this was their chance to get a guy they wanted. To assume he's a special teamer who will be cut is as ridiculous as assuming he's blossom into a superstar who will be a household name in two years.


There's no minor leagues in football. These project picks never work out. Especially ones that aren't special athletically anyway. Matt Jones, ARE, Brad Smith, and Pat White all succeeded because they excelled at another position and were special athletically.



NFL.com says "but he's intriguing because of his athleticism and toughness."

Just say'n


Ok, he's intriguing. Matt Jones had the atheticism of a number one overall, he just couldn't play qb. Thats why he was able to develop into a WR. Its a shame his head was in the wrong place.
User avatar
funbunchfever
swine
Posts: 86
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:12 am

Post by funbunchfever »

funbuncher wrote:If we're going to go looking for projects how bout some O-line?

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scoutingr ... ollmer.php


Vollmer was picked by the Patriots in either the 2nd or 3rd round. You may have an eye for sleepers, though, as Belichek picked him up early.
It's just a game.
Gibbs4Life
G4L
G4L
Posts: 2363
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 3:45 pm
Location: no
Contact:

Post by Gibbs4Life »

Espn loves to talk raiders...my question is why


And again...Cody Glenn omg
Last edited by Gibbs4Life on Sun Apr 26, 2009 3:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
HAIL
User avatar
funbunchfever
swine
Posts: 86
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:12 am

Post by funbunchfever »

Gibbs4Life wrote:Espn loves to talk raiders...my question is why


Maybe because they run to the beat of their own drum. Or because Al Davis makes some CRAZY picks!
It's just a game.
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

because they blew it on their first pick.
User avatar
brad7686
B-rad
B-rad
Posts: 3124
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:46 am
Location: De La War

Post by brad7686 »

I'm going to be positive for a second and assume the skins are targeting an OT they know will go late. Although i'm sure i'm wrong.
User avatar
funbunchfever
swine
Posts: 86
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:12 am

Post by funbunchfever »

brad7686 wrote:I'm going to be positive for a second and assume the skins are targeting an OT they know will go late. Although i'm sure i'm wrong.


Yeah, I was thinking maybe they were targeting that huge lineman from LSU, but he just went to the Cardinals.
It's just a game.
User avatar
brad7686
B-rad
B-rad
Posts: 3124
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:46 am
Location: De La War

Post by brad7686 »

they could be targeting Murtha. He has great size and speed
CanesSkins26
Canes Skin
Canes Skin
Posts: 6684
Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 5:02 pm
Location: Alexandria, VA

Post by CanesSkins26 »

Cody Glenn....so sad I can't help but laugh. We LOVE to reach for players. Tryon, Rhinehardt, Brooks last year. Glenn this year.
Suck and Luck
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

I could see them going after the kid from Georgia Tech. Think he's pretty good just needs to work some fundamentals.
Skinsfan55
+++++++++
+++++++++
Posts: 5227
Joined: Wed Feb 04, 2004 12:21 pm
Contact:

Post by Skinsfan55 »

I wonder if they take a FB. Might keep Sellers quiet.
"Guess [Ryan Kerrigan] really does have a good motor. And is relentless. And never quits on a play. And just keeps coming. And probably eats Wheaties and drinks Apple Pie smoothies and shaves with Valvoline." -Dan Steinberg DC Sports Bog
User avatar
funbunchfever
swine
Posts: 86
Joined: Sat Feb 14, 2004 1:12 am

Post by funbunchfever »

brad7686 wrote:they could be targeting Murtha. He has great size and speed


And some history of injuries, which would follow the trend of the first 3 picks. It looks like Vinny believes that's how to get value. Definitely boom or bust potential, I guess.
It's just a game.
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

If 3 out of the 6 picks we have play and contribute, I would consider that a successful draft.
Kilmer72
Hog
Posts: 2543
Joined: Tue Oct 07, 2008 3:05 pm
Location: Southerner in Yankee land :(

Post by Kilmer72 »

Who knows why we drafted Cody Glenn? Wasn't he half way decent at short yards at the RB position?
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

Don't forget that Dexter Manly Jr. is out there too and I wouldn't be shocked if we took him in the 7th with our last pick. Heard he's a scrapper and something tells me his Dad has taught him a thing or two about getting to the passer.
Gibbs4Life
G4L
G4L
Posts: 2363
Joined: Sun Sep 05, 2004 3:45 pm
Location: no
Contact:

Post by Gibbs4Life »

Youtube has two clips listing Cody Glenn... one of him at RB and the other that says "Injured did not play" wow I'm so hype on this guy!
HAIL
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

Kilmer72 wrote:Who knows why we drafted Cody Glenn? Wasn't he half way decent at short yards at the RB position?


I think he was a good RB overall. Just had some injury issues.
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

Skins Select OLB in 5th Round

With the 158th pick just obtained from Minnesota, the Redskins have drafted Cody Glenn, an outside linebacker from Nebraska. He'll supply depth and special teams help.

Glenn was suspended from the team indefinitely and also faced a civil suit while at Nebraska. He spent three years as a tailback for the Cornhuskers and then switched to linebacker as a senior. Glenn's suspension arose from ticket scalping, according to a league source. He is very raw but certainly has athletic ability.


http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/
User avatar
brad7686
B-rad
B-rad
Posts: 3124
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:46 am
Location: De La War

Post by brad7686 »

Mike Teel can play
frankcal20
^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^
Posts: 9017
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2004 5:52 pm
Contact:

Post by frankcal20 »

As an NC State fan, yes he can. He blew us up in the 2nd half of our bowl game this year.
User avatar
brad7686
B-rad
B-rad
Posts: 3124
Joined: Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:46 am
Location: De La War

Post by brad7686 »

I gotta bolt, fun discussing a hectic and disappointing second day. Although its not over. Heres hoping it gets better.
Post Reply