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Love that he went to Denver, John Fox who was at Carolina. Love that pick. He'll be appreciated and will start for them.

frankcal20 wrote:Nate Irving to Bronco's in 3rd round. Love this guy.

Parcells loves this guy, too!

Unforgiven wrote:An easy way to look at this instead of thinking about all the trades is someone gave us a 3rd, 4th, and two 5ths to drop from #10 to #16. The guy we took at 16 is obviously someone we had a high value on and most experts said if we didn't take him at 16, he was gone to NE at 17.

Or barring any new trades we will add 13 new players picked by the staff to play in their system. That's 20% of the roster. We were one of the oldest teams in the league, we are getting young and fiscally cheaper.

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

PAPDOG67 wrote:

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:This is like a friggin nightmare for me. It's almost like Shannahan is trying to do things the same way the Patriots have for the last decade or so. That disgusts me on every level humanly possible.

If we have even half the success the Pats have had recently I will go make myself another cocktail and rejoice.

I'm thinking you may do the same if we don't as well. I'm just saying...

I'm already sipping on my Red Stag on the rocks. Its been a long week.

PAPDOG67 wrote:

KazooSkinsFan wrote:

PAPDOG67 wrote:

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:This is like a friggin nightmare for me. It's almost like Shannahan is trying to do things the same way the Patriots have for the last decade or so. That disgusts me on every level humanly possible.

If we have even half the success the Pats have had recently I will go make myself another cocktail and rejoice.

I'm thinking you may do the same if we don't as well. I'm just saying...

I'm already sipping on my Red Stag on the rocks. Its been a long week.

mmmmmmmmmmmm red stag....so good

Leadbelly wrote:And what have the Patriots done in the last decade? A couple of superbowls and lots of winning seasons? Doesn't sound like that bad of a pattern to follow.

What they've done is sold their souls, played a style of football that is damn near unwatchable on a weekly basis, and generally allowed their opponents to beat themselves rather than going out and CRUSHING their foes. They're a team that plays to "not lose" rather than to WIN.

I'm sorry but I just cannot accept that as an appropriate or proper way to engage in any competitive activity. It's totally contrary to my beliefs on what sports are supposed to be about.

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:

Leadbelly wrote:And what have the Patriots done in the last decade? A couple of superbowls and lots of winning seasons? Doesn't sound like that bad of a pattern to follow.

What they've done is sold their souls, played a style of football that is damn near unwatchable on a weekly basis, and generally allowed their opponents to beat themselves rather than going out and CRUSHING their foes. They're a team that plays to "not lose" rather than to WIN.

I'm sorry but I just cannot accept that as an appropriate or proper way to engage in any competitive activity. It's totally contrary to my beliefs on what sports are supposed to be about.

I guess they let us beat ourselves when the pasted us by nearly 50 a few years ago with Gibbs on the sidelines???

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:

Leadbelly wrote:And what have the Patriots done in the last decade? A couple of superbowls and lots of winning seasons? Doesn't sound like that bad of a pattern to follow.

What they've done is sold their souls, played a style of football that is damn near unwatchable on a weekly basis, and generally allowed their opponents to beat themselves rather than going out and CRUSHING their foes. They're a team that plays to "not lose" rather than to WIN.

I'm sorry but I just cannot accept that as an appropriate or proper way to engage in any competitive activity. It's totally contrary to my beliefs on what sports are supposed to be about.

I have to admit that New England's play style isn't my favorite. Certainly different from what I grew up to love. However using NE's draft strategy is far different from adopting their play style.

Mallett is going to NE

Mallett to new England. Going to be sick now.

don't be surprised if we trade up with NE to grab Mallet here.

PAPDOG67 wrote:I guess they let us beat ourselves when the pasted us by nearly 50 a few years ago with Gibbs on the sidelines???

Yes they did. They made the simple plays all game long and we didn't have the talent or the balls to stop them.

Now let's go back to 2003. The Patriots went 14-2. You know who one of the teams to beat them that year was..... the Washington Redskins: 20-17. You know why.... Because that Redskins team played a simple game that day and didn't make mistakes. The Patriots got behind and turned the ball over 4 times because they were not, and are not built to come back once they get down. It's the same way the Ravens and Jets have beaten them in the playoffs the last two years.

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:

Leadbelly wrote:And what have the Patriots done in the last decade? A couple of superbowls and lots of winning seasons? Doesn't sound like that bad of a pattern to follow.

What they've done is sold their souls, played a style of football that is damn near unwatchable on a weekly basis, and generally allowed their opponents to beat themselves rather than going out and CRUSHING their foes. They're a team that plays to "not lose" rather than to WIN.

I'm sorry but I just cannot accept that as an appropriate or proper way to engage in any competitive activity. It's totally contrary to my beliefs on what sports are supposed to be about.

Im a long time reader/lurker of this site. Never really got into posting. Just really used this site for good information....Anyways Redskins_Fanatic, are you even a Redskins fan? Are you Vinny Cerato and are butthurt because you are watching the CORRECT way to build to a team? I mean jeez man you whine more then my 2 year old daughter.

On a lighter note... I cant say how happy and impressed I am with the approach the FO is taking this draft. Going after the right type of high-character, high-motor type guys who are willing to put it all on the line for the TEAM and not themselves. HAIL.

Makes sense. He's their kind of guy. Wanted him here but I can see it. We probably tried to move up to get him but NE was asking for a ton.

By the way, with their 1st pick, they didn't take him.

So yeah, Pats just passed on Mallett, bunch of know nothings on NFL network were wrong. =p

CPallDAY08 wrote:

Redskins_Fanatic wrote:

Leadbelly wrote:And what have the Patriots done in the last decade? A couple of superbowls and lots of winning seasons? Doesn't sound like that bad of a pattern to follow.

What they've done is sold their souls, played a style of football that is damn near unwatchable on a weekly basis, and generally allowed their opponents to beat themselves rather than going out and CRUSHING their foes. They're a team that plays to "not lose" rather than to WIN.

I'm sorry but I just cannot accept that as an appropriate or proper way to engage in any competitive activity. It's totally contrary to my beliefs on what sports are supposed to be about.

Im a long time reader/lurker of this site. Never really got into posting. Just really used this site for good information....Anyways Redskins_Fanatic, are you even a Redskins fan? Are you Vinny Cerato and are butthurt because you are watching the CORRECT way to build to a team? I mean jeez man you whine more then my 2 year old daughter.

On a lighter note... I cant say how happy and impressed I am with the approach the FO is taking this draft. Going after the right type of high-character, high-motor type guys who are willing to put it all on the line for the TEAM and not themselves. HAIL.

Welcome back to the site. It's always nice to have some level headed posters on here. Stick around a bit. You'll see, there are more logical guys than knuckleheads like some.

I hope they trade all those picks for the Panthers first next year.

Well that's that.

Nevermind...back to back picks. Mallett went. =p

SkinsFTW wrote:I hope they trade all those picks for the Panthers first next year.

me too!

Wow, we have a total of 13 picks! We got a 3rd , a 4th and 4 5th rounders!

Who is going to be our QB? Grossy?

funbuncher wrote:Mallett to new England. Going to be sick now.

There will be no baggage issues with Belichek.

CPallDAY08 wrote:Anyways Redskins_Fanatic, are you even a Redskins fan? Are you Vinny Cerato and are butthurt because you are watching the CORRECT way to build to a team? I mean jeez man you whine more then my 2 year old daughter.

No, I'm not Vinny, but I will say that I have a lot more philosophically in common with Vinny than I do with Bruce Allen and Mike Shannahan. I had hoped that the two of them would turn this team around in what I consider to be the right way. Apparently not. That will make it much more difficult for me to root for this team going forward.

Honestly, as I've said in the past, if we build this way, I hope we go 0-16 every year.

Scottskins wrote:

SkinsFTW wrote:I hope they trade all those picks for the Panthers first next year.

me too!

That would be phenomenal