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REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon May 24, 2004 10:30 am

tcwest10 wrote:...a man of "God" should set a better example, bad day or not.

Still a man...still prone to err. :-k

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon May 24, 2004 1:23 pm

RED(EEMED)SKIN wrote:
tcwest10 wrote:...a man of "God" should set a better example, bad day or not.

Still a man...still prone to err.

but it isn't as easily forgiven when is was done intentionally.....

Jake · Post by **Jake** » Mon May 24, 2004 3:14 pm

hailskins666 wrote:
RED(EEMED)SKIN wrote:
tcwest10 wrote:...a man of "God" should set a better example, bad day or not.

Still a man...still prone to err.
but it isn't as easily forgiven when is was done intentionally.....

Amen HS666! I disagree Redeemed because Darrell ALWAYS makes it a point to avoid the fans. And ignoring the fans isn't an error, it's a choice he makes to avoid the people paying to watch him play and pay for his salary. I'm so sick and tired of Darrell and his general disrespect towards us. That's what made it so easy to see him leave a couple of years ago.

REDEEMEDSKIN · Post by **REDEEMEDSKIN** » Mon May 24, 2004 3:47 pm

Jake wrote:Amen HS666! I disagree Redeemed because Darrell ALWAYS makes it a point to avoid the fans. And ignoring the fans isn't an error, it's a choice he makes to avoid the people paying to watch him play and pay for his salary.

I think it was not a good thing for Darrell to "be Darrell" during the many instances recounted in this thread. I find it hard to believe, but far from impossible. These instances are hard to forget (how could we fill this thread if we don't remember), but one and all are far from unforgivable.

Yes, "we" paid his salary, either through holding season tickets, the purchase of merchandise, or donations to his foundation, etc., but he, in return, DID leave it all on the field...for all the years WE "flipped the bill", so to speak.
Will there be a better corner for the Skins than Darrell? Hard to imagine at this point. His loyalty to the team speaks volume about this man's character, as well.

He's moved on from football. I think he, too, was eager to get out. The 20th season, at HIS age, was a tribute to his fans. No longer about the money, he chose to again be away from his family for extended periods of time to give the owner of the team and the fans a final hurrah and earn another badge of honor.

He paid his dues (his body can probably witness to the fact) and fulfilled his contractual obligation to the team, the league, and, yes, the fans.

box8276 · Post by **box8276** » Mon May 24, 2004 3:56 pm

these guys get paid millions....buy us the loyal fans.....i think if everyone got sick of this crap and boycotted a few games and these superstars missed some paychecks maybe things would change.......i like d.g. as well as the next guy but now i know you really dont know someone until u really know them

BossHog · Post by **BossHog** » Mon May 24, 2004 4:00 pm

box8276... I agree... but this is a PG board... profanity is allowed only in the Smack forum. There are children as young as 10 bleeding burgundy and gold in these forums...

Your post has been edited.

Thanks.

JonC56 · Post by **JonC56** » Mon May 24, 2004 4:05 pm

He has obvoiusly done some regrettable things(if he regrets them and by what everyone is saying, probaly not) but i'm almost positive that not one here knows him personally. There has been alot of deserving negativity towards the way he has treated fans, and especially sick children. I would just love if someone who has actually known DG for a long time could come and tell us how who he truly is away from the spotlight, becuase he is obvouilsy someone who does not flourish when all eyes are on him off the football field unlike one LA. This thread has shedded a new light about darrel green, but not one person here(that I know of) is a personal friend of DG. So no one here truly knows the man.

Scooter · Post by **Scooter** » Mon May 24, 2004 4:12 pm

I loved Darrell until I met him. Now I wish I hadn't. Frankly, I'm trying to forget I met the guy - and that he's got an ego the size of Texas. "I don't sign autographs any more. If you didn't bother to get it when I was playing - you don't deserve one now." Uh... Darrell, I traveled over 3,000 miles to get here to see you and ask for this autograph - for my Mom - because you're her favorite player... no response. See, I wish it had never happened and he was still one of my favorite Redskins.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Mon May 24, 2004 10:27 pm

Redeemed, I'm taking you to task on something you've written.

Redeemed put on his rose colored glasses when he wrote:"No longer about the money, he chose to again be away from his family for extended periods of time to give the owner of the team and the fans a final hurrah and earn another badge of honor".

That is not at all why Darrell Green came back for the 2002 season. As I wrote before, 2001 was to be his last hurrah. The idea was, to pass around the collection pail during home games so that the fans could show their appreciation to Darrell and what he's meant to us through donations to his own cause. Sadly, the terrorist attacks on 9/11/01 shifted the local focus on helping those who were injured, lost or bereaved in the Pentagon. Darrell wisely demurred, not wanting to seem selfish in asking people to donate to his cause rather than donate to the cause of those hurt by 9/11.
In essence, he determined that it would be a good year before he could reasonably expect to cash in on his celebrity for the sake of aiding his own foundation. So, he extended his career for one more year, when it was very, very clear to those in the stands that he simply had nothing left to give. He was demoted to second string, and had a year in which he recorded NO interceptions for the first time in his career. No longer the fastest player on the team, he became the fastest talker. Some of us are even faster listeners.

Sadly, it was obvious to those of us who were aware that his victory lap was delayed only by lack of opportunity and not some supposed desire to "give something extra to the team and fans" that he was not the man he once was. He was simply looking to recoup his imagined losses from the year before.
I, along with many others, did indeed contribute to DG's cause, via PayPal. I thought that it was prudent for me to aid those kids, not Darrell Green himself.
When I look at him, I see a man who thinks he's a shrewd businessman. I know better. He's just another exceptional athlete who stayed on too long.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon May 24, 2004 10:48 pm

one more small thing to add...

He paid his dues (his body can probably witness to the fact) and fulfilled his contractual obligation to the team, the league, and, yes, the fans.

he didn't fullfill his contract, because if i remember correctly, we had dead cap dollars invested in DG's retirement. with him on a BIG downslide in his career at the very end, we probably saved a little by not paying his salary as well, so i do think he retired at the right time.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Mon May 24, 2004 10:51 pm

Yeah, there's that. Believe you me, though, that was no concern of Darrell Green's. He couldn't have cared less about the financial structure of the team, or the impact of his retirement. In the end, it was all about the fund bearing his name.

hailskins666 · Post by **hailskins666** » Mon May 24, 2004 11:25 pm

i agree. he could care less about anything besides DG.

tcwest10 · Post by **tcwest10** » Mon May 24, 2004 11:30 pm

Hellhog, I know that he loves those kids in his foundation. I know you feel that, too. Still, as far as our own Redskins are involved, it's all about "How can I make this pay ?" with DG. In other words, "How can I cash in on my name to benefit my own charity ?"
Unfortunately, a group of terminal kids not currently in his foundation were left out. Some, I'm sure , have since died never having met the Washington Redskin that they wanted to meet.
This is crap. There can be no excuse.
Never again will I send DG another red cent, for this very reason.

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