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Re: New faces...same ole skins
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 3:42 pm
by REDEEMEDSKIN
Royoversean wrote:I am not trying to talk crap just want to know what you think.
Just like the last 5 years you guys have spent rediculous amounts of money...Is it worth it? This means in the future you guys will have no money! Do you really think you guys can win the super bowl in the next 2 years, before you guys go to salery cap hell?
oh yeah...Roy over sean!
Not a great way to make a splash into a REDSKINS forum, but you are welcome (by this fan) to make an opinion. For the most part all opinions are welcome, others are questioned, and the remainder are discarded and blamed on either 1) serious alcohol abuse 2) global warming or 3) being a cowpuke fan.
Seriously, though, welcome to the forum. Stick around; you may learn something or two about THE GREATEST FRANCHISE IN SPORTS HISTORY: The Washington Redskins.
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 3:53 pm
by redskincity
gambit187 wrote:John Manfreda wrote:Sean Taylor is going to be twice the player Roy Williams will ever be.
I just had to pull some truth and facts on the whole Roy W VS Sean T. debate
You probably can see the difference between the two players by looking at their college statistics (they each left after their junior season).
Roy had 188 solo tackles and 81 assists
Sean had 130 solo tackles and 58 assists
Roy had 29 tackles for loss and seven sacks
Sean had 11 tackles for loss and one sack
Roy had nine interceptions and four fumble recoveries
Sean had 14 interceptions and no fumble recoveries
Roy had 47 passes broken up
Sean had 28 passes broken up
Roy had no blocked kicks
Sean had two blocked kicks
Also take this into consideration
1. Ed Reed played at Miami.......hummm wonder how many of his Defensive players were drafted in the first round with him. 2 CB's with him
2. Sean Taylor played at Miami....hummmm wonder how many of his defensive players were drafted in the first round. 2 LB's and one DT taken in the first round with him.
3. Roy Williams.....hummmm how many Defensive players were taken from Oklahoma in the first round or second round with him. 0 in the first and second rd
THIS BEING SAID Safeties Like Taylor and Williams need a good front line to aide them. But Williams did it at Oklahoma with no star players. The facts are there from the stats to the draft.
The blindspot to your post is if you dont have a good front line with good LBs your safeties are left to pick up the crumbs. Lets take a look: Tackles;
Bowens: 2003 Washington Redskins 16 83
74.0 9 0 3 44 14.7 44 0 4
Ohalete: 2003 Washington Redskins 15 103
80.0 23 0 3 60 20.0 30 0 5
Roy: 2003 Dallas Cowboys 16 72
55.0 17 2 2 69 34.5 39 0 6
.........See what I mean Gambit???????????????????????????????????????????????????
Look at the numbers.....baby!
Sean over Roy
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 4:41 pm
by fleetus
Sean is waaaaaay faster and I think he will have better luck staying away from the Burger King drive-thru! Roy is like a Macy's T-day parade balloon, man, he just keeps gettin bigger and bigger! Pretty soon, they'll have him lined up next Laroi Glover!. Mel Kiper said Sean Taylor was the highest rated safety since he started rating players 20 years ago!
As for the cap problems, I'll just say, I think Snyder, because he has signed so many players and been so agressive, has become the the best salary cap savvy owner in the NFL. Every year some yahoo (like good old Lenny Pasquarelli) blasts Snyder for future salary cap problems and we're still waiting for those problems. If he can survive the Deion contract, he can survive anything. he has fielded a decently talented team every year but has had to learn the hard way how to pick coaches and how to work with those coaches. Those problems are gone with Joe Gibbs.
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 5:44 pm
by 1niksder
gambit187 wrote:Thank you Redskins Rule, but like most on the board say I only contribute BS and Garbage.
Whats a little BS and Garbage among fellow fans
even if one is in the closet
Most of your post are are Pretty good for someone that roots for that team in texas ... So keep on posting
Posted: Mon May 10, 2004 6:45 pm
by silent1903
gambit187 wrote:
Also take this into consideration
1. Ed Reed played at Miami.......hummm wonder how many of his Defensive players were drafted in the first round with him. 2 CB's with him
2. Sean Taylor played at Miami....hummmm wonder how many of his defensive players were drafted in the first round. 2 LB's and one DT taken in the first round with him.
3. Roy Williams.....hummmm how many Defensive players were taken from Oklahoma in the first round or second round with him. 0 in the first and second rd
So what you're saying is that Williams had to do it all himself because he had no help from his front 7 but Taylor did have help? So by that logic a lot of tackles were made before they even got to Taylor? Yes, I see, I see how Williams would have made more tackles. That's a good point.