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Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 12:04 pm
by Burgundy&GoldForever
SkinsJock wrote:The FBI did state that the emails contained sensitive information but they decided not to prosecute - that's OK with me
I'm only pointing to the fact that the slug claimed that none of the emails contained classified or secret information - NONE
that is a lie - ergo, Hilary Clinton lied to 'cover' herself, just like her buddy, Bill
go ahead and spout all the defensive crap you want - The FBI investigation shows that the slug lied - end of story
A politician who lies. There's a first.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:26 pm
by Deadskins
Countertrey wrote: He's a business person... stuff happens.
OTOH, what of a woman whom dithered over appearances rather than responding to the desperate plight of Americans in Benghazi (btw, whom do YOU want responding to the 3 AM phone call... clearly, we already KNOW how Clinton responds)... whom has not a single success of significance in all of her years of "puplic (LOL) service", who was disinterested in compliance with security rules that she agreed to follow when she became SecState, and who profited from "speaking engagements" with parties involved in negotiations with the State Department... we all know what that really was. Who is currently under legitimate Criminal investigation, and whom is very clearly corrupt to the core... but, that's no big deal...
I totally agree with all the stuff you are saying about Hillary, but I think you are willfully turning a blind eye to Trump's downside due to her failings. Your last sentence applies to both candidates. At least with Hillary, you know what you are getting. The devil you know...
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:31 pm
by Deadskins
SkinsJock wrote:The FBI did state that the emails contained sensitive information but they decided not to prosecute
Not exactly, what he said was that no reasonable prosecutor would find that her actions rose to the standard of criminal behavior. They said she certainly should have known better, and I totally agree. When all is said and done, she brought all of this on herself, and has no one else to blame.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 3:03 pm
by SkinsJock
I'm not saying politicians don't lie - just pointing out that this slug vehemently denied that this happened and continues to make out like she did nothing wrong - the FBI decided not to take this further and I understand that - they did point out that what the slug did was not a good thing and that some of the emails were classified/secret
she's a liar, just like Bill - it's time to get rid of the Clintons and all the politicians that do nothing
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 11:28 am
by Hooligan
SkinsJock wrote:
she's a liar, just like Bill - it's time to get rid of the Clintons and all the politicians that do nothing
This is what affects my decision the most. We've seen what Hillary does in office, and it's not good. I'd rather roll the dice on Trump than give a proven failure even MORE authority and responsibility. Trump is no gem, but I don't believe in "the devil you know."
Still not going to be happy in that voting booth

Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 12:32 pm
by DarthMonk
Fearful that someone would actually consider voting for Trump.
Please abstain, vote libertarian, vote green, write in - anything but vote for Trump.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Mon Jul 11, 2016 2:47 pm
by SkinsJock
I don't want Trump to be the next President of the USA ... but there's no way in the world I could vote for a slug like Hilary Clinton
Having Trump as the next President is a scary thought but not nearly as bad as thinking of having Hilary Clinton in the White House
so, I'll wait and see what happens ... I am going to vote and that vote will certainly not be for the slug, Hilary Clinton
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:52 am
by DEHog
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:SkinsJock wrote:The FBI did state that the emails contained sensitive information but they decided not to prosecute - that's OK with me
I'm only pointing to the fact that the slug claimed that none of the emails contained classified or secret information - NONE
that is a lie - ergo, Hilary Clinton lied to 'cover' herself, just like her buddy, Bill
go ahead and spout all the defensive crap you want - The FBI investigation shows that the slug lied - end of story
A politician who lies. There's a first.
Under Oath?
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:29 am
by Burgundy&GoldForever
DEHog wrote:Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:SkinsJock wrote:The FBI did state that the emails contained sensitive information but they decided not to prosecute - that's OK with me
I'm only pointing to the fact that the slug claimed that none of the emails contained classified or secret information - NONE
that is a lie - ergo, Hilary Clinton lied to 'cover' herself, just like her buddy, Bill
go ahead and spout all the defensive crap you want - The FBI investigation shows that the slug lied - end of story
A politician who lies. There's a first.
Under Oath?
They're all under oath. You know, that whole "I will, to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution Of The United States" thing.
She didn't, at least to public knowledge, violate the letter of the law, but she certainly trampled the spirit of the law.
Maybe she didn't fully understand the meaning of the term "law."

Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:05 pm
by Deadskins
For everyone harping on Hillary for being a liar (and I agree that she is one), I have to ask: Do you believe that Trump is not one?
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 12:20 pm
by SkinsJock
Deadskins wrote:For everyone harping on Hillary for being a liar (and I agree that she is one), I have to ask: Do you believe that Trump is not one?
No! I think that Trump is a liar and a manipulator - and he's incredibly egotistical - I just don't agree with the implication that we know what we're getting with Clinton and that might be better than what we might have with Trump in the White House
The choice is very difficult - IMO the voters are looking to show the politicians how mad they are about politicians in general
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:25 pm
by Countertrey
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:It would be nice if people actually knew what the hell they were talking about before condemning someone. But to hell with everyone's constitutional rights but mine, right?
The facts of the law in question are these:
18 U.S. Code § 798 - Disclosure of classified information
(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b) As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;
The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;
The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;
The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;
The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.
Now, then ... we don't know the actual contents of those e-mails. The FBI does and they say there is nothing to prosecute. Now the matter is in the hands of the Department Of Justice, of which the FBI is a branch.
I'm not saying Hilary is innocent but I am saying those e-mails have to have contained very specific types of information to have broken the law and since we are not privileged to the contents we don't know if she broke the law.
But to hell with innocent until proven guilty, right? That's only for people we like.
They most definitely did NOT call her innocent... additionally, the director declared that he felt no federal prosecutor would take the case... which was NOT his determination to make, and, which numerous former federal prosecutors have stated was NOT the case. The fix was in. It should have been the Attorney General, not the Director of the FBI, who determined that this did not rise to the level of prosecution, ESPECIALLY after the Director had laid out so well, the case FOR prosecution.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:27 pm
by Countertrey
DarthMonk wrote:Fearful that someone would actually consider voting for Trump.
Please abstain, vote libertarian, vote green, write in - anything but vote for Trump.
I will definitely vote... and, taking my lead from Chicago liberals, am willing to vote many times.

Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:45 pm
by DarthMonk
Nothing like a little old-fashioned racism and bigotry:
"And isn't it funny. I've got black accountants at Trump Castle and Trump Plaza. Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. . . . I think the guy is lazy. And it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control."
But he is not Hillary Clinton so I guess I will ... vote for Trump ??
No thanks.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:23 pm
by Countertrey
Were any member of our military to have done what Clinton did, they would have immediately lost any eligibility for a security clearance. Yet, you are ok with a President whom cannot be trusted with National secrets, who has demonstrated a disregard for the lives of those serving under her, and who has an extensive history of abusing her "underlings", to the point of treating the secret service as errand boys. She has gloated over her legal dismemberment of an adolescent rape victim, and led the assault against Bills many "bimbo eruption" vicims, then, once convenient, exclaims that "victims of sexual violence should be believed", and rails against the "war on women".
There is ample evidence that she presided over the granting of multimillion dollar contracts to those who have donated heavily to the Clinton Profit Foundation (the legal term is racketeering, btw), and has failed in every diplomatic venture she presided over. Upon departing the White House in 2000, she and Bill literally plundered dozens of White House furnishings and priceless artifacts that were the property of the PEOPLE, not of the Clintons. Most was returned following it's exposure... oops... our mistake... completely innocent. Of course, the Clintons were "flat broke" at the time... obviously, they needed the furniture for their Million dollar plus hovel in the slummy outskirts of NYC...
I challenge you to identify a single significant success of her Senate or State Department careers. Libya? Iraq? Syria? Kuwait? Russia? China? North Korea? Acknowledged... some of those were inherited... but they were surely in far worse shape at the end of her "reign", than at the beginning. Legislation? Hello? A Trump Presidency will be uncomfortable... but a Clinton Presidency will be a catastrophe for freedom and the Constitution.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 12:26 am
by Burgundy&GoldForever
I think we can sum up this election in three words:
We are screwed.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:52 am
by SkinsJock
Trump may not be a good President - having a Clinton back in the White House and continuing to hurt this country is a terrible mistake
so, no! I will not vote for Hilary Clinton
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:48 pm
by TexasCowboy
tribeofjudah wrote:Hmmmm....... do a little research. Don't believe everything you read on the NET. Check it and recheck it..........I'm just sayin
Subject: Conveniently Forgotten Facts.
Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a fellow Black Panther named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was suspected of disloyalty. Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely immobilized, his friends tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water on him.
When they got tired of torturing Rackley, Black Panther member, Warren Kimbro took Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley's body was later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven , Connecticut .
Perhaps at this point you're curious as to what happened to these Black Panthers?
In 1977, that's only eight years later, only one of the killers was still in jail.
The shooter, Warren Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard and became good friends with none other than Al Gore. He later became an assistant dean at an Eastern Connecticut State College. (THE SHOOTER !)
Isn't that something!!!
As a 60's radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head and a few years later, in the same state, you can become an assistant college dean!
Only in America !!!
Erica Huggins was the woman who served the Panthers by boiling the water for Mr. Rackley's torture. Some years later, Ms. Huggins was elected to a California School Board.
How in the world do you think these killers got off so easily?
Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to the defense of the Panthers.
These two people actually went so far as to shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial.
One of these people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee, or Mr. Lan Lee, as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't a member of a California School Board. He is now head of the United States Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, appointed by none other than Bill Clinton. (YEP! BILL CLINTON OUR PAST PRESIDENT)
OK, so who was the other Panther defender? Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board member? Is this other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? No, neither!
The other Panther defender was, like Lee, a radical law student at Yale University at the time. She is now known as The "smartest woman in the world." She is none other than the former Democratic senator from the State of New York ---- our former First Lady, and the Secretary of State, the incredible, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
And now, as Paul Harvey said; "You know the rest of the story."
Pass this on!
This deserves the widest possible press.
Remember this when she runs for President!
AS SHE SAID IN THE BENGHAZI HEARING,"WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!"
ONLY IN AMERICA!
What do you think............? Thoughts? Comments?
Let me get this straight
* Hillary is the defense lawyer in a trial involving a former
Black Panther, who later on went on to be appointed by her
future husand William Jefferson Clinton, this immediately
disqualifies her from the appointed office of President of
the United States?
I can think of a thousand things that makes her disqualified
such as her ties to Skull and Bones, Involvement with the
global elite at the Bilderberg group and Bohemian grove
but rather than focusing on the fact she sold her soul to
Satan and now carries out their dark agenda for the fore
seeable future, The best you can do is focus on 1 court
case that in the end doesn't mean a damn thing?
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:47 pm
by DarthMonk
TexasCowboy wrote:tribeofjudah wrote:Hmmmm....... do a little research. Don't believe everything you read on the NET. Check it and recheck it..........I'm just sayin
Subject: Conveniently Forgotten Facts.
Back in 1969 a group of Black Panthers decided that a fellow Black Panther named Alex Rackley needed to die. Rackley was suspected of disloyalty. Rackley was first tied to a chair. Once safely immobilized, his friends tortured him for hours by, among other things, pouring boiling water on him.
When they got tired of torturing Rackley, Black Panther member, Warren Kimbro took Rackley outside and put a bullet in his head. Rackley's body was later found floating in a river about 25 miles north of New Haven , Connecticut .
Perhaps at this point you're curious as to what happened to these Black Panthers?
In 1977, that's only eight years later, only one of the killers was still in jail.
The shooter, Warren Kimbro, managed to get a scholarship to Harvard and became good friends with none other than Al Gore. He later became an assistant dean at an Eastern Connecticut State College. (THE SHOOTER !)
Isn't that something!!!
As a 60's radical you can pump a bullet into someone's head and a few years later, in the same state, you can become an assistant college dean!
Only in America !!!
Erica Huggins was the woman who served the Panthers by boiling the water for Mr. Rackley's torture. Some years later, Ms. Huggins was elected to a California School Board.
How in the world do you think these killers got off so easily?
Maybe it was in some part due to the efforts of two people who came to the defense of the Panthers.
These two people actually went so far as to shut down Yale University with demonstrations in defense of the accused Black Panthers during their trial.
One of these people was none other than Bill Lan Lee. Mr. Lee, or Mr. Lan Lee, as the case may be, isn't a college dean. He isn't a member of a California School Board. He is now head of the United States Justice Department's Civil Rights Division, appointed by none other than Bill Clinton. (YEP! BILL CLINTON OUR PAST PRESIDENT)
OK, so who was the other Panther defender? Is this other notable Panther defender now a school board member? Is this other Panther apologist now an assistant college dean? No, neither!
The other Panther defender was, like Lee, a radical law student at Yale University at the time. She is now known as The "smartest woman in the world." She is none other than the former Democratic senator from the State of New York ---- our former First Lady, and the Secretary of State, the incredible, Hillary Rodham Clinton.
And now, as Paul Harvey said; "You know the rest of the story."
Pass this on!
This deserves the widest possible press.
Remember this when she runs for President!
AS SHE SAID IN THE BENGHAZI HEARING,"WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE!"
ONLY IN AMERICA!
What do you think............? Thoughts? Comments?
Let me get this straight
* Hillary is the defense lawyer in a trial involving a former
Black Panther, who later on went on to be appointed by her
future husand William Jefferson Clinton, this immediately
disqualifies her from the appointed office of President of
the United States?
I can think of a thousand things that makes her disqualified
such as her ties to Skull and Bones, Involvement with the
global elite at the Bilderberg group and Bohemian grove
but rather than focusing on the fact she sold her soul to
Satan and now carries out their dark agenda for the fore
seeable future, The best you can do is focus on 1 court
case that in the end doesn't mean a damn thing?
Well clearly you don't have it straight. She wasn't even the defense lawyer in the case cited.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:52 am
by Deadskins
Racketeering? Really? You don't think Trump is involved in racketeering? He has been a New York land developer for 40 years. You don't think he has mob ties? You're deluding yourself. The scariest thing he says these days is that he's "the Law and Order candidate." He's as crooked as any of the politicians he ran, or is running, against.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:30 am
by Burgundy&GoldForever
Chump just announced he will not be releasing his tax returns, which is not surprising since it's clear he's hiding something but the timing is odd since the DNC can now make a major case of it.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:48 pm
by DEHog
Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Chump just announced he will not be releasing his tax returns, which is not surprising since it's clear he's hiding something but the timing is odd since the DNC can now make a major case of it.
Sure hope the “Russians” don’t hack into the IRS…

Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:31 pm
by Burgundy&GoldForever
DEHog wrote:Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Chump just announced he will not be releasing his tax returns, which is not surprising since it's clear he's hiding something but the timing is odd since the DNC can now make a major case of it.
Sure hope the “Russians” don’t hack into the IRS…

I guess we're going to find out if Wikileaks is an equal opportunity attack dog.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:56 pm
by Deadskins
DEHog wrote:Burgundy&GoldForever wrote:Chump just announced he will not be releasing his tax returns, which is not surprising since it's clear he's hiding something but the timing is odd since the DNC can now make a major case of it.
Sure hope the “Russians” don’t hack into the IRS…

Nah, Putin and Trump are pals, he wouldn't do anything to hurt him.
Re: So you wanna vote for the Lady Clinton...?
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:45 pm
by Skins Fan in Indy
Im writing in Ted Cruz