The God Argument

[Deadskins]

Or maybe God sent his son to live as one of us, and show us that even under the worst of circumstances involved in the human condition, we could still have faith that if we follow his example, we can rest assured of having everlasting life in heaven.

He could do better than to send himself, as a sacrificial lamb that he sacrifices to himself, to show humanity how to live. Maybe less death and more forgiveness would work better for the human condition than a blood sacrifice.

Boy that's a jumbled mess of thoughts right there.

He wasn't sacrificed to Himself, was He? In fact, He wasn't really sacrificed at all. He was executed. But, if what you meant was that He sacrificed Himself, in that He allowed Himself to be executed, then you are only reinforcing what I said. Less death and more forgiveness? Last time I checked, everybody dies. And even during His "sacrifice," He prayed for God to forgive His executioners. If that's not walking the walk, I don't know what is.

I was thinking the other day about our previous discussions on the topic of God's existence, where you professed a belief in "spirit energies" that inhabit living humans. And I started thinking about the questions I posed to B&G4ever about evolution (that he has yet to answer). I believe you said that only humans had these energies and not animals, so I wondered, "At what point on the evolutionary tree, when ape became man, did they gain access to these energies? And what was the switch in the genome that opened the door? Did other offshoots (Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons, etc.) have spirit energies?" If I'm remembering incorrectly, and all life contains these energies, is that what turned simple amino acids into the first single celled organisms? And to satisfy B&G4ever's scientific criteria, can you show any empirical evidence of these spirit energies?

[Cappster]

Or maybe God sent his son to live as one of us, and show us that even under the worst of circumstances involved in the human condition, we could still have faith that if we follow his example, we can rest assured of having everlasting life in heaven.

He could do better than to send himself, as a sacrificial lamb that he sacrifices to himself, to show humanity how to live. Maybe less death and more forgiveness would work better for the human condition than a blood sacrifice.

Boy that's a jumbled mess of thoughts right there.

He wasn't sacrificed to Himself, was He? In fact, He wasn't really sacrificed at all. He was executed. But, if what you meant was that He sacrificed Himself, in that He allowed Himself to be executed, then you are only reinforcing what I said. Less death and more forgiveness? Last time I checked, everybody dies. And even during His "sacrifice," He prayed for God to forgive His executioners. If that's not walking the walk, I don't know what is.

I was thinking the other day about our previous discussions on the topic of God's existence, where you professed a belief in "spirit energies" that inhabit living humans. And I started thinking about the questions I posed to B&G4ever about evolution (that he has yet to answer). I believe you said that only humans had these energies and not animals, so I wondered, "At what point on the evolutionary tree, when ape became man, did they gain access to these energies? And what was the switch in the genome that opened the door? Did other offshoots (Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons, etc.) have spirit energies?" If I'm remembering incorrectly, and all life contains these energies, is that what turned simple amino acids into the first single celled organisms? And to satisfy B&G4ever's scientific criteria, can you show any empirical evidence of these spirit energies?

Are you one of the Christians that do not believe in the Trinity? The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit? Did he not sacrifice himself to save mankind from eternal damnation? Which flavor of Christianity do you follow? I was recently told, in a conversation about religion, that the King James version of the bible was the only true version. If this is the case, why are there so many versions out there? I've had Catholics come knock on my door proclaiming the Catholic church is the one true church. Oh course I've had the Mormons and Jehovah's do the same thing. Who is right and who is wrong? It seems to me that all religious people are rather confused about their beliefs.

When I was talking about spirit energies, I was still holding onto spirituality although I had left religion. I have since come to the realization that there is no need for a "soul" or any of that for life to exist and not to mention there is no evidence for it. Adults should be rather embarrassed to believe in what I refer to as "Adult Santa Clause." Our fear of death is what makes religions and beliefs in gods thrive. The promise of an eternal paradise is a warming thought, but there is no evidence that such a paradise exists.