mastdark81 wrote:
Duane Allen has been as healthy as Jordan Reed the last few years that's why his numbers are low. He's a stud TE when playing. Is he an all pro? No...capable of being a pro bowler? YES. Fleener only seen time because Allen was injured, Fleener was the backup who made plays when asked of.. I mentioned the other WRS because they are apart of the offense. I'm just comparing our teams. Their talent is good enough to win. Running backs are good enough to be middle of the pack of the league.
Reggie Wayne was arguably the best WR in NFL a few years 2012 ago under Luck's watch...what they do then? In fact most NFL teams that are consistent winners do not have #1 WRs or close (Seattle, New England, Ravens,). Saying their offensive line is bad is part of the problem for sure. But they don't want to run the ball trust me!! If they did they would. Now yeah they may not be a great running team but no offensive lineman want to run backward all day. Their philosophy needs to change just like ours did this year. We made it a point mentally and physically in practice to shore up our running game because we knew the QBS that we have (all of them) aren't capable of winning games by themselves.
You must don't actually watch the Colts games. I do. Having happy feet and not having a solid base when throwing, rushing your throws.... Luck does this consistently but what makes him a good QB is he typically will make MORE plays than mistakes. That's the key! No QB is perfect.
I know you want to believe that Kirk Cousins have the perfect mechanics of a QB but he doesn't. Throwing the ball quickly is great when your guy is open but not when your DB on the other side anticipates your timing. A good defense calls that "rushing" your throw. Kirk has a tendency to be off balance when his first read is not open and the defense gets him off his plant spot. He has improved on it since his rookie year but trust me there are a lot of qbs that get rid of the ball quick (Fitzpatrick, Rex Grossman, Jay Cutler). Only the great ones know how to change their typical cadence and timing, only a few know how to keep you guessing and throw to a variety of WRS and make enough plays to WIN GAMES.
Luck will be fine once they put more resources to their olines/dlines/youth and change their mentality.
First off --- I totally hear what you are saying. Here are my comments.
Duane Allen -- injuries have to be taken into account as part of the package. Reed is a great TE, but I'd rather have someone with a little less talent but can stay on the field. I just thought "stud" was a total exaggeration to put it mildly.
Comparing teams: Our team has FAR more talent on it. It's not even close. INDY's RBs are not middle of the pack; they are bottom 5.
#1s -- I recall hearing that stat and totally agree, but I think that has to do with having around the board talent. Luck has none. Every single player is below average at their position/role. For example, Hilton is an above average WR, but a below average #1 WR. Also, all those teams had defenses just as good as their offenses (yes, even NE). INDY's is below average. That being said --- I am not saying Luck is Tom Brady. Brady is arguably the best QB in the history of the game. That said, 2012 was Luck's rookie year.
INDY's desire to run: Agree. They don't want to run BECAUSE they don't have the personnel to. It isn't because they want to pad Luck's #s. That is ridiculous. It's not "if they did, they would" --- more like "if they COULD, they would".
Watching games --- I don't watch many Colts games. I'd say I've watched around 10-15 of Luck's pro games. At least enough to gadge his fundamentals. Trust me, I don't think they are flawless. In fact, if I were his coach, I would be all over him to improve his footwork. He makes good progressions, though.
Cousins --- I don't think he has "perfect" mechanics --- because I didn't say that!!!! Solid and perfect are very different. I agree with much of what you say otherwise. One of Cousins biggest issues is his ability to "make" a play resulting from a broken play --- which is what makes him a "game manager" IMHO. These are the situations were he throws INTs and otherwise makes his errors. Cousins thrives off structure. Which is why I agree that he has issues in situations where he drops back, plants, sees no one, then moves up in the pocket and plants, and no one is open. He is okay if he plants and makes a throw or when he plants, moves up subsequently plants and then throws. It is the 3rd progression in his drop back that hurts him. Also, the best QBs in the league get the ball out quick, not just the 3 bums you named. In fact, 2 of the 3 (Grossman and Cutler) actually do
NOT make quick reads...... Brady and Manning are the two best at it.