RG3 to cowboys???

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

Um...yes I would say that a guy in street clothes is incapable of helping his team win games.

So, coaches don't help their teams win games? Romo can't give any help to Weeden? (just to give an example of a QB in street clothes helping his team win games.)

If RGIII was a real team player he would trip someone on the opposing team from the sidelines or go sit behind the opponent's bench and steal signals.

[riggofan]

Um...yes I would say that a guy in street clothes is incapable of helping his team win games.

So, coaches don't help their teams win games? Romo can't give any help to Weeden? (just to give an example of a QB in street clothes helping his team win games.)

lol. $3,449,836 is a lot of money to pay a guy for moral support.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

lol. $3,449,836 is a lot of money to pay a guy for moral support.

I'll wear a cheerleading outfit and dance with pom poms for that kind of money.

[SkinsJock]

^^ There are some here that are doing that already ... and for nothing ...

[DEHog]

Um...yes I would say that a guy in street clothes is incapable of helping his team win games.

So, coaches don't help their teams win games? Romo can't give any help to Weeden? (just to give an example of a QB in street clothes helping his team win games.)

Context...that quote was in response to SJ post...unless SJ was talking about RG going to another team and helping them win game by standing on the sidelines in street clothers...I stand corrected.

[Deadskins]

Um...yes I would say that a guy in street clothes is incapable of helping his team win games.

So, coaches don't help their teams win games? Romo can't give any help to Weeden? (just to give an example of a QB in street clothes helping his team win games.)

Context...that quote was in response to SJ post...unless SJ was talking about RG going to another team and helping them win game by standing on the sidelines in street clothers...I stand corrected.

I'm pretty sure you were saying RGIII could do nothing to help the Redskins win games, if he was standing on the sidelines in street clothes. It occurred to me that the coach is a guy in street clothes, but I knew you were talking about a player, so I added the Romo bit. I understand you were being facetious, but I still think you were wrong.

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I'm pretty sure you were saying RGIII could do nothing to help the Redskins win games, if he was standing on the sidelines in street clothes. It occurred to me that the coach is a guy in street clothes, but I knew you were talking about a player, so I added the Romo bit. I understand you were being facetious, but I still think you were wrong.

By that logic everyone in the stands is a coach, too. Besides, why would I want a player who doesn't know the playbook, can't read defenses, and couldn't get the job done coaching me if I'm Kirk Cousins? Answer: I wouldn't.

[DEHog]

I'm pretty sure you were saying RGIII could do nothing to help the Redskins win games, if he was standing on the sidelines in street clothes. It occurred to me that the coach is a guy in street clothes, but I knew you were talking about a player, so I added the Romo bit. I understand you were being facetious, but I still think you were wrong.

so you agree that he's incapable of playing QB and helping a team to win games

I was responding to this quote...If RG is in street clothes and not PLAYING he is incapable of playing QB and helping to them win games? I get your point but honestly if and when the Cowboys lose do you think Tony Romo will take the blame for not helping them win??

[Deadskins]

if and when the Cowboys lose do you think Tony Romo will take the blame for not helping them win??

Good point.

[markshark84]

Um...yes I would say that a guy in street clothes is incapable of helping his team win games.

So, coaches don't help their teams win games? Romo can't give any help to Weeden? (just to give an example of a QB in street clothes helping his team win games.)

Man, you and SJ are reeeeeally stretching things here --- to a completely insane level.

I know you and SJ are butt hurt about the RGIII situation, but you are starting to sound crazy (well, at least for Deadskins). So now you are saying that RGIII is (1) comparable to a coach and/or (2) has the same sideline presence as a player that has lead his team for 10 years and been to 3 pro bowls??????

I understand the concept you are throwing out ---- just to a not-even-on-the-same-planet comparison --- in that RGIII can help his team similarly to a walk-on college basketball player. They can work hard in practice and cheer on the sideline and high five and add spirit ---- but that's about it. RGIII isn't a coach or a team leader. Right now, he is much more like that walk-on sitting at the end of the bench providing support to his players.

I know you love the guy but this is ridiculous.

[Countertrey]

Um...yes I would say that a guy in street clothes is incapable of helping his team win games.

So, coaches don't help their teams win games? Romo can't give any help to Weeden? (just to give an example of a QB in street clothes helping his team win games.)

Man, you and SJ are reeeeeally stretching things here --- to a completely insane level.

I know you and SJ are butt hurt about the RGIII situation, but you are starting to sound crazy (well, at least for Deadskins). So now you are saying that RGIII is (1) comparable to a coach and/or (2) has the same sideline presence as a player that has lead his team for 10 years and been to 3 pro bowls??????

I understand the concept you are throwing out ---- just to a not-even-on-the-same-planet comparison --- in that RGIII can help his team similarly to a walk-on college basketball player. They can work hard in practice and cheer on the sideline and high five and add spirit ---- but that's about it. RGIII isn't a coach or a team leader. Right now, he is much more like that walk-on sitting at the end of the bench providing support to his players.

I know you love the guy but this is ridiculous.

Here's their point... This is true of EVERY back up QB standing on the sidelines, on EVERY NFL team, whether suited up or not. They have a job. They are tasked to watch for patterns... What is the opposing d doing that might be causing problems for the QB on the field. Are they showing their hand? Is there some possible vulnerability to exploit? Is the playing QB doing something that is tipping plays? Are there other opportunities that are presenting that have not been seen by the coaches or other players? These players are extra eyes, looking for patterns that might help win a game... Sometimes, they actually see something valuable... Sometimes, it makes a difference.

Now, we have no idea what, if anything, Bob has contributed... But that IS part of his role right now. So, yes... He CAN, conceivably contribute to a win on the field. It may not be probable... But, it's not "rediculous, either.

[SkinsJock]

I know the haters are not going to like this but if the coaches or the FO felt that the team would be better off if Griffin were not on the sideline he would not be there - just stop your hating and enjoy the success this team is having .... with Robert's help

[Burgundy&GoldForever]

I know the haters are not going to like this but if the coaches or the FO felt that the team would be better off if Griffin were not on the sideline he would not be there - just stop your hating and enjoy the success this team is having .... with Robert's help

They feel he's better off inactive. Or at least they are. So, there's that.

[DEHog]

...so the next game we lose I'm blaming RG

[riggofan]

...so the next game we lose I'm blaming RG

Seriously. I don't know what the hell RG3 was doing in that Dolphins game. He definitely didn't point out enough vulnerabilities to exploit... We could have won that game if he was doing his job better!!!!

[SkinsJock]

tonight's the night - Griffin helps Cousins win the game or Cousins loses it because he does not get enough help from Griffin, or Griffin becomes a distraction and causes Cousins to lose his mojo ...

[Deadskins]

Here's their point... This is true of EVERY back up QB standing on the sidelines, on EVERY NFL team, whether suited up or not. They have a job. They are tasked to watch for patterns... What is the opposing d doing that might be causing problems for the QB on the field. Are they showing their hand? Is there some possible vulnerability to exploit? Is the playing QB doing something that is tipping plays? Are there other opportunities that are presenting that have not been seen by the coaches or other players? These players are extra eyes, looking for patterns that might help win a game... Sometimes, they actually see something valuable... Sometimes, it makes a difference.

Now, we have no idea what, if anything, Bob has contributed... But that IS part of his role right now. So, yes... He CAN, conceivably contribute to a win on the field. It may not be probable... But, it's not "rediculous, either.

Someone gets it.

[markshark84]

Here's their point... This is true of EVERY back up QB standing on the sidelines, on EVERY NFL team, whether suited up or not. They have a job. They are tasked to watch for patterns... What is the opposing d doing that might be causing problems for the QB on the field. Are they showing their hand? Is there some possible vulnerability to exploit? Is the playing QB doing something that is tipping plays? Are there other opportunities that are presenting that have not been seen by the coaches or other players? These players are extra eyes, looking for patterns that might help win a game... Sometimes, they actually see something valuable... Sometimes, it makes a difference.

Now, we have no idea what, if anything, Bob has contributed... But that IS part of his role right now. So, yes... He CAN, conceivably contribute to a win on the field. It may not be probable... But, it's not "rediculous, either.

Like I said, I understand the role but RGIII is NOT the back up per se. And while you say "every", I have never seen him standing at the sidelines watching the our offensive plays, taking notes, on an IPAD, discussing with the OC, etc. Now, does that mean I could be 100% wrong and he is a huge contributor to our offensive schemes..... absolutely. I am not literally on the sidelines and don't know he is doing when the cameras aren't near him. I just call them like I see them.

That being said ---- After this thread and some of the dead on points made within this thread --- I think we can all agree that it is fair to chalk up the NYG loss 100% on RGIII.... He totally should have made sure Cousins didn't throw that idiotic cross pass attempt to Reed.... this loss is totally on RGIII.

[Countertrey]

... Because, some consider a snarky response to be informative.

Actually, sometimes it is... Just not in the way you imagine...

[SkinsJock]

:-s ... Because, some consider a snarky response to be informative.

Actually, sometimes it is... Just not in the way you imagine...

nailed it! ... again