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riggofan wrote:

markshark84 wrote:Saying you are the best in the league when you CLEARLY are not isn't some harmless statement

Yeah, you're right. What the hell was I thinking...

Next thing you know DeSean Jackson will be out there telling the world that nobody can cover him when he can clearly be covered on occasion.

emoses14 wrote:If you are a fan of the redskins and have any problem whatsoever with your starting QB having this attitude and mind set at all times, then you are a bad redskins fan. Bad fan! BAD FAN!!

It doesn't matter if what he says is true, if you think Griffin has been gifted anything, or if you think Cousins/McCoy is the answer. If Robert said anything other than what he did, then he should be immediately benched. Because if he doesn't believe that, then no one else ever will.

Griffin's job is to be ready to play, and that takes confidence. The media, in all its glory, can suc. . . jump off a bridge. Man, good thing he doesn't have a radio show or anything.

DarthMonk wrote:I'm thinking a reporter could flat out ask Aaron Rodgers "Are you the best QB in the NFL?" and he would find a way to avoid saying "Yes, I am."

"I didn't make a lot out of it, you guys did," Gruden said. "All players want to strive to be the best, and that doesn't change. DeSean Jackson said he was uncoverable. Whether he is or isn't, that's how he feels, and Robert has high goals for himself. I don't fault anyone for having high goals. We don't want anyone that strives to be average. The key thing is, he said he has to go out and prove it. We all have to go out and prove it."

Gruden said he has not grown weary of all the hoopla surrounding Griffin, that it's been like that since he entered the NFL -- Griffin went from winning the Heisman Trophy to being named NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year and was viewed as a franchise savior.

"He has to go out and prove it and stay healthy and then continue to play," Gruden said. "The whole thing about great quarterbacks and top-notch quarterbacks is they're durable, and they do it year in and year out, game in and game out. We have to do our best to keep him healthy, and he has to do his best to perform."

Irn-Bru wrote: Something like, "I was surprised that what I said yesterday set off the storm that it did.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Irn-Bru wrote: Something like, "I was surprised that what I said yesterday set off the storm that it did.

But that would have been a lie. He can't be surprised anymore, because this is a common occurrence with him.


Robert begging Tony (PR) to let him address the media today. He'll never win over this locker room.

StorminMormon86 wrote:

DarthMonk wrote:I'm thinking a reporter could flat out ask Aaron Rodgers "Are you the best QB in the NFL?" and he would find a way to avoid saying "Yes, I am."

But he could say something like, "I think my play over the past couple of years could back that up."

Not so much for Griffin.

Irn-Bru wrote:There is no doubt that RGIII's words were distorted by the media with selective quotations.

. . . but I still think it was unwise of him to phrase it the way he did.

What gets to me is that he not only expressed himself poorly, but that he doubled down on it today rather than just giving a clarifying statement that would have put the whole thing to rest. Something like, "I was surprised that what I said yesterday set off the storm that it did. I think anyone who reads the full quote will understand that I wasn't claiming I have proven myself to be a better quarterback than the best in the league. I am saying that I believe myself to be a great quarterback and work toward being the best every day. My mindset is that I will take to the practice field and playing field and be the best, and I won't settle for anything less from myself."

That was literally what I could do off the top of my head, and IMHO it was way better than his remarks today. With even 30-40 minutes of work with a PR guy, he could easily have been done with this whole thing today. Instead the team over-reacted, Griffin continued to speak off-the-cuff in his somewhat elusive way, and the speculation will grind on for another few days or week. Plus, if he has a poor season than this quote will be trotted back out ad nauseam.

Again, I don't think there was much wrong with what he said in the first place. I didn't like how he said it because I know how it will be represented in the media. Like DM said above, we supporters of RGIII are left having to parse his words in a charitable way to show that they weren't a problem. I wish Robert had done that work for us.

DEHog wrote:But unfortunately he just doesn’t get it and not sure if after all he’s been through with the media, he ever will??

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

DEHog wrote:But unfortunately he just doesn’t get it and not sure if after all he’s been through with the media, he ever will??

It's been... 4 years now? Something like that. He's not going to get it and it's good perspective into what has led to his failures on the field. He thinks that he has it all figured out. I absolutely hated what Gruden did to him last year but.. While what Gruden did (airing out his grievances) was unprecedented and unprofessional... It's totally understandable.

OldSchool wrote:Griffin starts against Detroit and McCoy gets the back up reps. Griffin didn't play long enough last game to have a fair chance to demonstrate progress or the lack of progress but he's supposed to get more time this week. I'd like to see Griffin play the whole half so we can really have a look at him. Give McCoy the second half to match Cousins performance last week but play Griffin the whole first half so he gets a chance to settle in and make some plays.

riggofan wrote:Honestly, I can't believe any of us are contributing to this noise. Completely phony outrage. I understand it from the media, they have radio time that they need to fill. Kind of expect more from the type of fans who post here. Whether you like RGIII or not, we should be supporting your team and our f**** QB on this one - not piling on a phony issue like this.

Deadskins wrote:http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/08/18/rgiii-frustrated-name-keeps-getting-used-headlines/

It's been suggested that the coaches prefer that Colt and Kirk run the 2nd and 3rd teams because they ALLOW the coaches to evaluate the young talent. Would you really know how well Crowder, Spencer and Grant have progressed with RGIII at the helm? When RGIII will elect to run the ball when he has 2 receivers open.

Chris Luva Luva wrote:

Deadskins wrote:http://washington.cbslocal.com/2015/08/18/rgiii-frustrated-name-keeps-getting-used-headlines/

Wish they had interviewed Kirk and Colt about RGIII's comment about being the best QB on the team.

OldSchool wrote:

It's been suggested that the coaches prefer that Colt and Kirk run the 2nd and 3rd teams because they ALLOW the coaches to evaluate the young talent. Would you really know how well Crowder, Spencer and Grant have progressed with RGIII at the helm? When RGIII will elect to run the ball when he has 2 receivers open.

That's a cynical view but I think last year that was a fair statement. If the coaches actually feel that way 2015 is going suck. We haven't seen enough of Griffin in 2015 to see if the reports of his progress in camp can be validated on the field.

OldSchool wrote:I think both McCoy, Cousins and every other QB in the NFL, college and high school would have enough sense to say something to the effect "I am focused on improving my game and will leave it to coaches to evaluate how I am doing relative to my teammates."

Chris Luva Luva wrote:It's not phony and it's a symptomatic of a larger issue that he's had.

aswas71788 wrote:Something that is clear from reading responses is that those who dislike RGIII will always see his words and actions as something to be criticized. Read the whole statement! RGIII's comments are so distorted by the media now that it is impossible to get a clear understanding of what he meant. Keep in mind that sports writers have to constantly create something radical to keep their job or to boost their reputation. This whole discussion is pure fecal material created by some lackey, glory hunting media writer. If RGIII does his job, great. If not, he will be replaced. If the posters on this site want to raise cane, do it towards the media where it belongs.

riggofan wrote:Its phony outrage about the way he worded an answer. He didn't give the stock, cliche response and his answer left room for interpretation. This crap has zero to do with his play on the field or anything else.

And Skins fans who are so defensive about parsing words and being "PC" are the last people who should be getting all fake outraged about this non-story, pretending like it means anything or that its symptomatic of any larger issues.

I'd like to see RGIII go Trump-style on this and say, "Yeah I said it, so what?" and have Skins fans say, "Yeah he said it, so what. STFU." But apparently we're all suddenly real sensitive about every word that comes out of our QB's mouth and will not be happy unless he gives only the appropiate, PR-approved responses.

Man up, fellas.

riggofan wrote:Its phony outrage about the way he worded an answer. He didn't give the stock, cliche response and his answer left room for interpretation. This crap has zero to do with his play on the field or anything else.

riggofan wrote:And Skins fans who are so defensive about parsing words and being "PC" are the last people who should be getting all fake outraged about this non-story, pretending like it means anything or that its symptomatic of any larger issues.

riggofan wrote:I'd like to see RGIII go Trump-style on this and say, "Yeah I said it, so what?" and have Skins fans say, "Yeah he said it, so what. STFU." But apparently we're all suddenly real sensitive about every word that comes out of our QB's mouth and will not be happy unless he gives only the appropiate, PR-approved responses.

Man up, fellas.