2015 Training Camp notes, quotes, highlights, and news

[riggofan]

any little thing the media can do to mis represent the progress that is being made will receive a lot more attention just because it is RGIII

You're completely right about the media scrutiny on RGIII but I just disagree about the whole "misrepresenting progress" thing. I honestly don't think anybody - media, coaches, players, etc - is sure where Griffin is at this point. Fact is that its going to be hard to judge for sure until we see him play a real game, or at least a preseason game or two.

I've been listening to various media people reporting from training camp all week and to a man the reporting has not been negative. The reports on RGIII have almost all been along the lines of: he's done some good things, he's done some bad things. I don't think there is much for them to report on one way or the other yet.

[emoses14]

any little thing the media can do to mis represent the progress that is being made will receive a lot more attention just because it is RGIII

You're completely right about the media scrutiny on RGIII but I just disagree about the whole "misrepresenting progress" thing. I honestly don't think anybody - media, coaches, players, etc - is sure where Griffin is at this point. Fact is that its going to be hard to judge for sure until we see him play a real game, or at least a preseason game or two.

I've been listening to various media people reporting from training camp all week and to a man the reporting has not been negative. The reports on RGIII have almost all been along the lines of: he's done some good things, he's done some bad things. I don't think there is much for them to report on one way or the other yet.

I think you're spot on and also that this is what is leading to the sometimes odd reporting I pointed out a few posts ago. It's like the reporters have no idea what to make of what they're seeing in practice. Certainly can't tell if he is better or not, and are reticent to proclaim he is or isn't, so we get these fence sitting remarks. The reporting is definitely more positive and than negative on him thus far.

[SkinsJock]

would you guys agree though that the coaches have not seen enough from any of the 3 QBs to get too excited about but at the same time it is also apparent that neither Cousins or McCoy have done much either - if either had done well, you can be sure we would have heard something about it - the DC press would love to be able to make something of anything if they could when it comes to the DC QB situation and Griffin

[SkinsJock]

there is no doubt in my mind that if Griffin was not showing improvement from last season and not giving these guys anything that they could use to show that McCoy or Cousins should be getting more work at QB they would be trumpeting the news all over the place

[SkinsJock]

IMO - while there are not glowing reports coming out of Redskins Park about the progress that Griffin is making - no news is in fact great news

[emoses14]

would you guys agree though that the coaches have not seen enough from any of the 3 QBs to get too excited about but at the same time it is also apparent that neither Cousins or McCoy have done much either - if either had done well, you can be sure we would have heard something about it - the DC press would love to be able to make something of anything if they could when it comes to the DC QB situation and Griffin

[emoses14]

there is no doubt in my mind that if Griffin was not showing improvement from last season and not giving these guys anything that they could use to show that McCoy or Cousins should be getting more work at QB they would be trumpeting the news all over the place

[DarthMonk]

Niles Paul - TE - Redskins
Niles Paul underwent an MRI on his shoulder, but it came back negative.
Paul got roughed up in practice, but it's apparently nothing serious. There's a chance he'll be held out of Thursday's preseason opener as a precaution, but it's not a long-term concern.
Source: Redskins on Twitter Aug 11 - 3:54 PM

Jordan Reed - TE - Redskins
Jordan Reed is "day to day" with a hamstring injury.
Here we go again. Coach Jay Gruden described the injury as merely "soreness," but any hamstring issue is notable for a player who has battled as many of them as Reed. He'll presumably miss Thursday's preseason opener against Cleveland. Reed has ample pass-catching talent, but simply can't stay on the field. It's for that fact that Gruden recently called Niles Paul a more complete player.
Related: Niles Paul
Source: Redskins on Twitter Aug 11 - 3:50 PM

[cowboykillerzRGiii]

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[cowboykillerzRGiii]

"Quarterback Robert Griffin IIIreally was sharp in every aspect on Tuesday. In 11-on-11s, he was unofficially 7-for-7 with about 120 yards and a touchdown --- a 55-yard bomb to Paul, who was wide open over the top. In 7-on-7s, Griffin III was 6-for-6 for about 92 yards and a 50-yard touchdown to Pierre Garçon. It’s a nice boost of momentum heading into Thursday’s game against the Browns, in which Griffin III is expected to play “at least” a quarter, Gruden said.

-- Backup quarterbacks Kirk Cousins and Colt McCoywere also sharp on the day. Cousins was unofficially 7-for-9 for 94 yards, while McCoy completed 10-of-13 passes for 134 yards and a touchdown (a 40-yarder to Rashad Ross). The difference, however, was that Cousins and McCoy were each likely sacked at least a couple times on the day and then allowed to complete the play. Griffin III was probably not sacked once on the day

[StorminMormon86]

RGII was practicing with Griffin yesterday. Keim says it wasn't a big deal for that day, but bigger picture, it still might be cause for concern. Never seen someone's family member practice on the field. Granted, it was just Griffin, his dad, and a personnel guy running quick drills, but they are making a big deal about it on 980 right now.

[emoses14]

RGII was practicing with Griffin yesterday. Keim says it wasn't a big deal for that day, but bigger picture, it still might be cause for concern. Never seen someone's family member practice on the field. Granted, it was just Griffin, his dad, and a personnel guy running quick drills, but they are making a big deal about it on 980 right now.

I think this is only a big deal for anyone who already has a problem with Griffin.

First of all here is what Keim actually said about it:

The fact that his dad, attending camp for only the second time all summer, was on the field with him after practice Monday was not made into a big deal. It was mentioned, but it wasn’t harped on.

1. He cleared it with the coaches.

Griffin said he asked the coaches if it was OK that his dad helped him after practice. His dad served as a pass-rusher, sometimes standing still with his arms outstretched so his son had to throw over him. Other times he’d rush at him. Griffin’s mom attends every practice; his dad does not.

2. It was after practice wrapped and Griffin, being the leader he is had this to say, according to Keim

“I’m not going to say, ‘Can my dad come into meetings?’ “ Griffin said. “That’s not his place. But if the coaches are gone and I want to get a little work in and my dad comes to one practice out of a thousand and I say, ‘Hey, dad, put your hands up and I’ll throw over you.’ I don’t think that’s too big a deal. That’s just me trying to get better.”

3. His dad was simply joining Griffin in what many reporters (KEim included) have reported is a normal thing for Griffin, i.e. staying after practice to work on a multitude of things, including his deep balls (at least that's the one Keim pointed out)

4. Sports Talk radio opinions are about as useful as Skip Bayless and Colin Cowherd

5. He is a good man, who was raised by his military mother and father to be a good man, why having that man around to help out with some extra work at the end of the day would be a problem is beyond understanding. To wit,

“He’s a big reason I am where I am today,” Griffin said. “He taught me everything I know. To have him out here and enjoy this process of being a quarterback in the NFL, a starting quarterback for one of the premier franchises in the league it’s something he needs to enjoy, too. I know he shies away from a lot of stuff because of what’s been said in the past, but we can’t worry about that. I want him to be out here. I want him to enjoy that as long as the coaches and the organization don’t have a problem with him being around me. He is my dad. There’s nothing we’re doing that’s stepping on anybody’s toes."

I don't remember anyone having a problem with Archie Manning being all over the field before, during and after practices. The point is, why exactly do we have a problem with an man wanting to share his success with his father?

[StorminMormon86]

Keim repeated that he had asked others if they had ever seen that before and the reply was always, "never". He said it did not seem like a big deal for that practice, but was still a potential sign of Griffin's dad being involved (bigger picture). As much slack Griffin has gotten over the years for what his dad had said, and how he was receiving "special treatment" from Snyder, etc., this didn't look good.

[Deadskins]

IMO - while there are not glowing reports coming out of Redskins Park about the progress that Griffin is making - no news is in fact great news

There have been some pretty good stuff about Robert's improvement.

-- Quarterback Robert Griffin III really was sharp in every aspect on Tuesday. In 11-on-11s, he was unofficially 7-for-7 with about 120 yards and a touchdown --- a 55-yard bomb to Paul, who was wide open over the top. In 7-on-7s, Griffin III was 6-for-6 for about 92 yards and a 50-yard touchdown to Pierre Garçon. It’s a nice boost of momentum heading into Thursday’s game against the Browns, in which Griffin III is expected to play “at least” a quarter, Gruden said.

-- Backup quarterbacks Kirk Cousins and Colt McCoy were also sharp on the day. Cousins was unofficially 7-for-9 for 94 yards, while McCoy completed 10-of-13 passes for 134 yards and a touchdown (a 40-yarder to Rashad Ross). The difference, however, was that Cousins and McCoy were each likely sacked at least a couple times on the day and then allowed to complete the play. Griffin III probably was not sacked once on the day.

[Deadskins]

Keim repeated that he had asked others if they had ever seen that before and the reply was always, "never". He said it did not seem like a big deal for that practice, but was still a potential sign of Griffin's dad being involved (bigger picture). As much slack Griffin has gotten over the years for what his dad had said, and how he was receiving "special treatment" from Snyder, etc., this didn't look good.

I'm sorry, I just don't see this as a big deal. It was after practice had ended. During practice? Yes, this would be a huge deal. But for what it was, I don't see anything to get worked up about.

[emoses14]

Keim repeated that he had asked others if they had ever seen that before and the reply was always, "never". He said it did not seem like a big deal for that practice, but was still a potential sign of Griffin's dad being involved (bigger picture). As much slack Griffin has gotten over the years for what his dad had said, and how he was receiving "special treatment" from Snyder, etc., this didn't look good.

I remember Griffin getting hammered about the one set of comments his dad made during the Shanahan debacle. I do not recall any slack. I also don't recall RGII having ever said anything else.

Re: your comment about Keim (that he asked others; they said they'd never seen it), that is something I'd not seen in either of the reports he filed to ESPN on the topic (links below). I'm not sure what that means as far as RGII helping RGIII get better in this limited manner, but it is a fact I'd not come across. I completely disagree that this "doesn't look good". My first inclination, as I believe Keim's is from his filed reports, is that it doesn't look like anything, good or bad. Gun to my head, I think it looks good because it shows Griffin is working his craft anytime and anyway he can. Isn't that what we all wanted him to do in the first place?

http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-reds ... i-am-today

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[SkinsJock]

I want Griffin to show he can play QB well and be a part of the 'new' Redskins that Scot is putting together

I am encouraged that he seems to be showing improvement and am sure that if he were not doing well, Cousins or McCoy would be getting a lot more attention from the coaches

there are OBVIOUSLY a lot of fans and members of the media that do not want this to happen and will not accept that this is possible

positives will be reported but anything negative or possibly out of the ordinary will be headlines - count on it

[riggofan]

would you guys agree though that the coaches have not seen enough from any of the 3 QBs to get too excited about but at the same time it is also apparent that neither Cousins or McCoy have done much either - if either had done well, you can be sure we would have heard something about it - the DC press would love to be able to make something of anything if they could when it comes to the DC QB situation and Griffin

I totally agree with that statement, SJ. Most of what I've heard on those QBs has been similar to what we've heard about Robert so far: mixed bag.

Honestly the local reporting has probably been more critical of Cousins than RGIII so far this camp. I think a lot of those reporters were just expecting Cousins to look the best, and that doesn't seem to have been the case so far. I heard some of the radio guys talking with a beat reporter the other day and they were really beating Cousins up for not taking advantage of the shaky QB situation.

That could all change on Thursday. If I were putting money on it, I'd say Kirk will be the sharpest QB in the preseason game. Guess we will see.

[riggofan]

Keim repeated that he had asked others if they had ever seen that before and the reply was always, "never". He said it did not seem like a big deal for that practice, but was still a potential sign of Griffin's dad being involved (bigger picture). As much slack Griffin has gotten over the years for what his dad had said, and how he was receiving "special treatment" from Snyder, etc., this didn't look good.

I'm sorry, I just don't see this as a big deal. It was after practice had ended. During practice? Yes, this would be a huge deal. But for what it was, I don't see anything to get worked up about.

This is definitely a case of the media trying to stir the pot. I could care less that Griffin was tossing the ball around with his dad after practice. Good for him.

[Countertrey]

I wish I could toss a ball around with MY Dad.

Drive on, Griffins... Enjoy every minute of the ride.

[tribeofjudah]

Word on the street is that Houston Bates is our BEST rookie yet.... what say you?

https://twitter.com/houstonbates55

[SkinsJock]

I think it would be great for Cousins to have a great game & for Griffin to have an average game Thursday night

the coaches (& RG3) know which QB gives them more upside - RG3 will continue to clearly prove that he's the best QB on this roster

I'd love for these other 2 QBs to push him to be even better - LOVE IT

[StorminMormon86]

I remember Griffin getting hammered about the one set of comments his dad made during the Shanahan debacle. I do not recall any slack. I also don't recall RGII having ever said anything else.

You don't remember the constant reports about Griffin being the only one allowed to have family members down on the field during practices during the Shanny era?

Re: your comment about Keim (that he asked others; they said they'd never seen it), that is something I'd not seen in either of the reports he filed to ESPN on the topic (links below). I'm not sure what that means as far as RGII helping RGIII get better in this limited manner, but it is a fact I'd not come across. I completely disagree that this "doesn't look good". My first inclination, as I believe Keim's is from his filed reports, is that it doesn't look like anything, good or bad. Gun to my head, I think it looks good because it shows Griffin is working his craft anytime and anyway he can. Isn't that what we all wanted him to do in the first place?

He said it on the radio this morning. I don't have a link because I was listening to it live. Now granted, he did say it was not a big deal with regards to this one instance, but when goaded by Paul and Reid, he admitted that in the "big picture" it still didn't look good because of the drama involving the belief that some have that Griffin II is more involved than he should be.

[tribeofjudah]

I wonder if the game is televise in WEst Coast?

[Deadskins]

I remember Griffin getting hammered about the one set of comments his dad made during the Shanahan debacle. I do not recall any slack. I also don't recall RGII having ever said anything else.

You don't remember the constant reports about Griffin being the only one allowed to have family members down on the field during practices during the Shanny era?

Nope. In fact, I don't remember any reports to that effect, much less constant ones. All of this besides the fact that this incident happened after practice was over.