Deadskins wrote:markshark8 wrote:The majority of these posters we saying how great Campbell was (and going to be) and manipulating his stats to make him appear as if he was one of the best 10 QBs in the league. It was laughable. There were literally only 2 posters (including myself) that disagreed with the general sentiment that Campbell was a franchise QB. It drove me crazy and I still don't let people forget it..... obviously.
Please! You need to check your memory too. No one was "manipulating his stats to make him appear as if he was one of the best 10 QBs in the league." There were pleny of folks on here, who wanted to give him more chances because of all the OC changes he had, but there wasn't anyone saying he was top ten, or a franchise QB. And each subsequent year, more and more people jumped off that bandwagon and were looking for a change.
What??? I don't recall you personally as one of the outspoken JC fans (although you very well may have been), but you are mistaken. There were so many people on here saying how JC was better than a number of top QBs --- and using his more meaningless stats like comp %, INTs, etc. to back it up. Meanwhile no one would state the obvious that he didn't score points. Many people called him a "top 10 QB" due to those stats --- which is basically what defines a franchise QB. I would say that 80% of my first 800 or so posts were about how JC wasn't a good QB. Remember the thread proclaiming JC as better than Cutler? Now Cutler is no prize, but I think it was very clear Cutler was and has always been the superior QB. I still respect RayNAustin as one of the best posters on this page because he was the only other poster, outside of myself, that understood that JC was not a quality starter QB.
You are correct in that it slowly dissipated over time --- it had to. JC was horrible and the more and more he played the clearer and clearer it got. There are only so many excuses and opportunities you can burn thru. I was against JC as permanent starter early on --- even before Collins came in and outplayed him. As things became more apparent, I found myself posting less about JC mainly because people stopped making excuse after excuse after excuse and realizing that they all were, in fact, excuses.....
This is the exact thing (ie, excuses) I don't want to happen with RGIII.... I find the same excuses (OL, new system, needs time, no support, etc.) --- whether some justified or not --- being used. QBs are in a unique situation where they control EVERYTHING offensively once they break the huddle. You see Peyton Manning adjusting his OL basically on every play...... same (but not to the same extent) with Brady and Brees. The best QBs are students of the game. That is why Luck and Wilson have been so successful. RGIII needs to understand this. As countertrey said, RGIII does have the competitve drive and unquestionably has the intangibles to be successful (ones that JC didn't). He just needs to put in the time/hours, work late, etc. I REALLY want RGIII to succeed. I like him personally; he just needs to put in the work and throw out the ego. If he does this --- and I mean REALLY work --- I am confident he can do it.
RIP Sean Taylor. You will be missed.
