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Chris Luva Luva wrote:That being said, I want DJax to do PR. And have someone else do PR.
fabe wrote:Damn he looks good in our colors.
Also, as to which number he'll be, if anyone else has noticed, they usually give the speedy receivers a "teen" number rather than 80-something. With that said, how about 11?
Countertrey wrote:1niksder wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:So your quick take is, good deal for the Skins?
I still want to see the contract details but "Yeah (He was due $10.5M this year and $21M over the next two with Philly), and although the 49ers had less cap space than the Skins going into this, they could have paid him more than what he signed for.
I know this, Bruce knew this, and Vinny would have known this... I would have given him more in the signing bonus and about $14M in guaranteed money over two years, Vinny would have out bid himself and paid about $10M more, Bruce kept him in town AND made a good deal
As much as I'd like to give all credit to Allen... I think this has as much to do with it being personal for DJax, resulting in the 'skins getting a bit of a bargain... I mean, we all know he probably could have gotten more elsewhere, including with the legit contenders in SF. He is playing for a rival to his former team, will see them twice a year... and wants a little payback. I just hope he's nice and disciplined about it.
Countertrey wrote:1niksder wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:So your quick take is, good deal for the Skins?
I still want to see the contract details but "Yeah (He was due $10.5M this year and $21M over the next two with Philly), and although the 49ers had less cap space than the Skins going into this, they could have paid him more than what he signed for.
I know this, Bruce knew this, and Vinny would have known this... I would have given him more in the signing bonus and about $14M in guaranteed money over two years, Vinny would have out bid himself and paid about $10M more, Bruce kept him in town AND made a good deal
As much as I'd like to give all credit to Allen... I think this has as much to do with it being personal for DJax, resulting in the 'skins getting a bit of a bargain... I mean, we all know he probably could have gotten more elsewhere, including with the legit contenders in SF. He is playing for a rival to his former team, will see them twice a year... and wants a little payback. I just hope he's nice and disciplined about it.
44diesel wrote:
Welcome aboard!
1niksder wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:
So your quick take is, good deal for the Skins?
I still want to see the contract details but "Yeah (He was due $10.5M this year and $21M over the next two with Philly), and although the 49ers had less cap space than the Skins going into this, they could have paid him more than what he signed for.
I know this, Bruce knew this, and Vinny would have known this... I would have given him more in the signing bonus and about $14M in guaranteed money over two years, Vinny would have out bid himself and paid about $10M more, Bruce kept him in town AND made a good deal
)Jackson will make $8 million in 2014. The total comes from a $5 million signing bonus, a fully-guaranteed base salary of $1 million, a fully-guaranteed $500,000 workout bonus, and a $1.5 million 53-man per-game roster bonus that is fully guaranteed.
For 2015, Jackson gets a fully-guaranteed $3.75 million base salary, a fully-guaranteed $500,000 workout bonus, and a fully-guaranteed $3.75 million 53-man roster bonus.
That’s $16 million fully guaranteed upon signing, earned over two years.
Because they’re fully guaranteed, the 53-man per-game roster bonuses in 2014 and 2015 don’t give the Redskins any extra protection — unless Jackson gets suspended. Even if that happens, the team would have been protected via guaranteed base salaries. The thinking is that the devices, while ultimately meaningless, could be a way to make the player think he’s got more at stake than he really does.
In 2016, Jackson has the same terms as 2015, without the guarantees: $3.75 million base salary, $500,000 workout bonus, $3.75 million 53-man roster bonus. It adds up to a four-year, $24 million contract.
There’s also a fourth-year that automatically voids. That allows the Redskins to push $1.25 million of the signing bonus into 2017, which in turn keeps the cap charges lower in 2014, 2015, and 2016.
Countertrey wrote:1niksder wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:So your quick take is, good deal for the Skins?
I still want to see the contract details but "Yeah (He was due $10.5M this year and $21M over the next two with Philly), and although the 49ers had less cap space than the Skins going into this, they could have paid him more than what he signed for.
I know this, Bruce knew this, and Vinny would have known this... I would have given him more in the signing bonus and about $14M in guaranteed money over two years, Vinny would have out bid himself and paid about $10M more, Bruce kept him in town AND made a good deal
As much as I'd like to give all credit to Allen... I think this has as much to do with it being personal for DJax, resulting in the 'skins getting a bit of a bargain... I mean, we all know he probably could have gotten more elsewhere, including with the legit contenders in SF. He is playing for a rival to his former team, will see them twice a year... and wants a little payback. I just hope he's nice and disciplined about it.
He could just as easily pay Philadelphia back by making a Super Bowl run with the 49ers and putting up 1500 yards in the process.Deadskins wrote:I wish General Failure still came around, I'd like to hear his take on the deal.
1niksder wrote:1niksder wrote:Irn-Bru wrote:
So your quick take is, good deal for the Skins?
I still want to see the contract details but "Yeah (He was due $10.5M this year and $21M over the next two with Philly), and although the 49ers had less cap space than the Skins going into this, they could have paid him more than what he signed for.
I know this, Bruce knew this, and Vinny would have known this... I would have given him more in the signing bonus and about $14M in guaranteed money over two years, Vinny would have out bid himself and paid about $10M more, Bruce kept him in town AND made a good deal
I've seen the reported details... per PFT (per a source with knowledge of the contractJackson will make $8 million in 2014. The total comes from a $5 million signing bonus, a fully-guaranteed base salary of $1 million, a fully-guaranteed $500,000 workout bonus, and a $1.5 million 53-man per-game roster bonus that is fully guaranteed.
For 2015, Jackson gets a fully-guaranteed $3.75 million base salary, a fully-guaranteed $500,000 workout bonus, and a fully-guaranteed $3.75 million 53-man roster bonus.
That’s $16 million fully guaranteed upon signing, earned over two years.
Because they’re fully guaranteed, the 53-man per-game roster bonuses in 2014 and 2015 don’t give the Redskins any extra protection — unless Jackson gets suspended. Even if that happens, the team would have been protected via guaranteed base salaries. The thinking is that the devices, while ultimately meaningless, could be a way to make the player think he’s got more at stake than he really does.
In 2016, Jackson has the same terms as 2015, without the guarantees: $3.75 million base salary, $500,000 workout bonus, $3.75 million 53-man roster bonus. It adds up to a four-year, $24 million contract.
There’s also a fourth-year that automatically voids. That allows the Redskins to push $1.25 million of the signing bonus into 2017, which in turn keeps the cap charges lower in 2014, 2015, and 2016.
And yes I can say this is a about as good as it gets...
Not only is it voidable after three years, if things don't work out the team can release or trade him after year two and deal with a cap hit of only $2.5M in dead cap space (which would equal $6.25M saved) in 2016 making it a two year $16M deal.
brad7686 wrote:IMO wide receiver is the hardest position to fill after qb in the NFL. There are VERY few teams that actually overwhelm people at that position. The redskins have not been one of those teams in my lifetime, which is why I'm always advocating drafting as many as possible, because it's just like qb in that sense. Hopefully now with who we have we can be solid there and at qb and focus on positions that are easier to fill.
Kilmer72 wrote:brad7686 wrote:IMO wide receiver is the hardest position to fill after qb in the NFL. There are VERY few teams that actually overwhelm people at that position. The redskins have not been one of those teams in my lifetime, which is why I'm always advocating drafting as many as possible, because it's just like qb in that sense. Hopefully now with who we have we can be solid there and at qb and focus on positions that are easier to fill.
Nah Oline
Countertrey wrote:44diesel wrote:
Welcome aboard!
Sweet.
Man, i'd love to find a copy of that photo on the wall behind DJax for my son, who is a huge Redskins fan, has done tours in Iraq and Afghanistan, and adopted/brought home an Afghani dog (through Nowzad dogs). BTW, they can sure use donations to help more soldiers get more dogs home.
"The photo was snapped by a 22-year-old corporal named Reece Lodder. Lodder spoke to the official blog of the United States Marine Corps about what he sees in the image."
Irn-Bru wrote:Deadskins wrote:I wish General Failure still came around, I'd like to hear his take on the deal.
Concrete Field is still kicking, isn't it? We could probably find out by doing some data gathering over there . . .
My guess is they are happy to see him gone. It sounds like it wasn't a happy situation for the team as a whole.
Irn-Bru wrote:markshark84 wrote:cowboykillerzRGiii wrote:Say what you will but I can't remember having this formidable of a wr core in my lifetime... hopefully he plays w a chip on his shoulder. Good news is hey already a puke and fecal hater..
Welcome to the B&G DJax!!!
Only question now.. is what number???
They've got to play before we can make these kind of statements.
Ghost of 2000-2001 and our "best secondary in history"............
That signing was closer in history to our Super Bowl teams than our current squad. Time to let it go.
Kilmer72 wrote:brad7686 wrote:IMO wide receiver is the hardest position to fill after qb in the NFL. There are VERY few teams that actually overwhelm people at that position. The redskins have not been one of those teams in my lifetime, which is why I'm always advocating drafting as many as possible, because it's just like qb in that sense. Hopefully now with who we have we can be solid there and at qb and focus on positions that are easier to fill.
Nah Oline
markshark84 wrote:I'll let it go when we make the playoffs in back-to-back seasons or are no longer considered the laughing stock of the NFC East.
fabe wrote:Damn he looks good in our colors.
Also, as to which number he'll be, if anyone else has noticed, they usually give the speedy receivers a "teen" number rather than 80-something. With that said, how about 11?
langleyparkjoe wrote:HILARIOUS!!!
http://www.sportspickle.com/2014/04/crips-release-desean-jackson-concern-affiliation-washington-redskins-organization
Irn-Bru wrote:
By the way, how can a workout bonus be "fully guaranteed"? You're telling me that if he never shows up at the facility except for training camp, he'll still get it? Why even call it a "workout bonus" at that point? (I'm guessing it's purely for accounting purposes.)
